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Title: Salary Cap Discussion
Post by: Billy on July 24, 2023, 10:22:40 AM
Opening up this discussion to change the salary cap to match the real life NBA Salary Cap each season. If this is agreed to, it would go into effect starting with the 2024-25 Season. For example, the cap for this season would change to $136m if we matched the real life NBA.

There are a few things that would change if we changed this:

1. PAying on players will be completely abolished
2. The extension table would change to increase max salary
3. Contract table for FA/Extensions will increase (meaning will need higher salaries to get additional years on contracts)

Please post whether you agree on this change or no.
Title: Re: Salary Cap Discussion
Post by: Rhino7 on July 24, 2023, 06:18:05 PM
I agree to these changes (Kings).
Title: Re: Salary Cap Discussion
Post by: IndianaBuc on July 24, 2023, 06:52:18 PM
I agree
Title: Re: Salary Cap Discussion
Post by: Interpaga on July 24, 2023, 07:08:03 PM
It will take time to adjust all the contracts to the new salary system (higher max salary), considering that most of the current contracts are multi-years (up to 2027) and will align to the new system only after expiration.
So maybe it makes sense to consider a more gradual adjustment also for the salary cap. If the increase is too big in just one year (from 110mn to 136mn for example), it could create some undesired distorsions. We can maybe start with a up to 10% increase in the cap like in real life NBA.

Moreover, the increase in real life NBA salary cap every year is related to increasing players salaries so the new extension table should probably include a flexible salary system with a higher maximum salary each year.
It seems a bit too complicated, but if someone already uses a variable salary cap in other leagues and it works, we are open to support this proposal
Title: Re: Salary Cap Discussion
Post by: OUDAN on July 24, 2023, 08:23:12 PM
IMO we have to stop making contract and cap changes every year. I get progressing but it changes everything about trades and roster makeup and in our opinion that isn?t something that should happen every year.
Title: Re: Salary Cap Discussion
Post by: cloud91 on July 25, 2023, 03:49:11 AM
I Agree  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Salary Cap Discussion
Post by: Brent on July 25, 2023, 07:29:20 AM
I agree to mirroring the NBA salary cap.  We first did this in NFL Countdown.

I also agree to eliminating the ability to pay on contracts.

If making all the changes for the 2024/2025 season is too much then do a phased approach.

2024/2025
- Eliminate paying on contracts
- Increase Salary Cap 50% of difference between CCD and NBA.
- Increase Extension Values by the same percentage the salary cap increase ends up.

2025/2026
- Increase Salary Cap to Mirror NBA Salary Cap
- Increase Extension Values

This is just spitballing, but something along those lines.
Title: Re: Salary Cap Discussion
Post by: Brody on July 26, 2023, 08:29:03 PM
I agree to mirroring the NBA salary cap.  We first did this in NFL Countdown.

I also agree to eliminating the ability to pay on contracts.

If making all the changes for the 2024/2025 season is too much then do a phased approach.

2024/2025
- Eliminate paying on contracts
- Increase Salary Cap 50% of difference between CCD and NBA.
- Increase Extension Values by the same percentage the salary cap increase ends up.

2025/2026
- Increase Salary Cap to Mirror NBA Salary Cap
- Increase Extension Values

This is just spitballing, but something along those lines.

Agree to changes, a phased approach like this may be a good solution to deal with current contracts rather than just making wholesale change.
Title: Re: Salary Cap Discussion
Post by: seebnova on August 01, 2023, 05:27:06 AM
I agree to these changes
Title: Re: Salary Cap Discussion
Post by: indiansnation on August 02, 2023, 02:24:56 PM
I agree
Title: Re: Salary Cap Discussion
Post by: jimw on August 03, 2023, 02:12:15 AM
I agree to the proposed changes. The sooner the better. The current system doesn't work.
Title: Re: Salary Cap Discussion
Post by: Billy on August 22, 2023, 05:03:58 PM
Anyone else got any thoughts on this? If no one else is against this, we will be pushing this through to start next off-season.
Title: Re: Salary Cap Discussion
Post by: Interpaga on August 22, 2023, 05:12:05 PM
I agree to mirroring the NBA salary cap.  We first did this in NFL Countdown.

I also agree to eliminating the ability to pay on contracts.

If making all the changes for the 2024/2025 season is too much then do a phased approach.

2024/2025
- Eliminate paying on contracts
- Increase Salary Cap 50% of difference between CCD and NBA.
- Increase Extension Values by the same percentage the salary cap increase ends up.

2025/2026
- Increase Salary Cap to Mirror NBA Salary Cap
- Increase Extension Values

This is just spitballing, but something along those lines.

We agree to a phased approach like the one proposed by Brent
Title: Re: Salary Cap Discussion
Post by: indiansnation on August 22, 2023, 05:18:58 PM
I'll go with what ever u think is best for league

Title: Re: Salary Cap Discussion
Post by: Billy on September 01, 2023, 12:18:31 PM
We are going to go with a phased approach to this.

Starting after 2023-24 season
1. No longer allowed cash exchanges (any player with a cash exchange already on the books will keep that cash exchange, we just won't allow any new cash exchanges)
2. Increase salary cap by 50% of difference between CCD and real NBA (so if the cap for the 2024-25 NBA season is $20m higher than CCD, we will increase by $10m)
3. Increase extension table to the highest salary being $35m
4. Change the contract table to require higher salary to get more years ($10m is too low to be able to get 5 years with how expensive NBA contracts are now)

Starting after 2024-25 season
1. Increase cap to match the real NBA
2. Increase extension table to highest salary being $40m
Title: Re: Salary Cap Discussion
Post by: Interpaga on September 02, 2023, 11:18:34 AM
Any extension signed this year will be already based on the following updated salary table.

Overall Player Rank
1-5 = $35.0m
6-10 = $32m
11-15 = 29m
16-20 = 27m
21-25 = 25m
26-30 = 24m
31-35 = 23m
36-40 = 22m
41-45 = 21m
46-50 = 20m
51-55 = 19m
56-60 = 18m
61-65 = 17m
66-70 = 16m
71-75 = 15m
76-80 = 14m
81-85 = 13m
86-90 = 12m
91-100 = 11m
101-120 = 9m
121-140 = 8m
141-160 = 7m
161-200 = 6m
201-225 = 5m
226-250 = 4m
250 + = 3m.

The estimated salary cap for 2025 is $125mn. Therefore teams must not exceed this 2025 cap when they re-sign a player
Title: Re: Salary Cap Discussion
Post by: Interpaga on September 19, 2023, 07:56:46 AM
As you know, from next season we will switch from a fixed salary cap to a variable salary cap, that will match the real life NBA cap with a phased approach.

Considering that it will take time for the players contracts to adjust to the new salary table (a lot of the existing contracts are long term and will be re-signed only in 3-4 years from now), it probably make sense to take a slightly more gradual approach, in order to avoid creating too much cap space in next 2-3 season for all the teams.

Instead of increasing salary cap by 50% of difference between CCD and real NBA in 2024/25 and by 100% in 2025/26, we propose to introduce from next season a variable salary cap matching the real NBA cap of two seasons earlier with a rolling approach (obviously player salary table will be also adjusted annually with the highest player salary increasing proportionally with the cap).

Owners would know in advance what the cap is for the next two seasons and this could help them in defining their strategies.

Just to clarify, under this proposal, salary cap will be fixed at $123.7m for 2024/25 and $136m for 2025/26. The CCD salary cap for 2026/27 will match the real life NBA cap that will be set for 2024/25 season.

Please vote if you approve this adjustment to the new salary cap system (yes or no in the poll above)
Title: Re: Salary Cap Discussion
Post by: ScottKD on September 19, 2023, 08:28:17 AM
My vote is no. With a side note that this should have been brought up prior to FA.
Title: Re: Salary Cap Discussion
Post by: Interpaga on September 19, 2023, 08:42:59 AM
My vote is no. With a side note that this should have been brought up prior to FA.

We are asking for the approval of the members precisely because free agency has already started. It is also important to note that the adjustment for next season should be minimal, we estimated $125 as 2024/25 salary cap before the start of FA and, under this proposal, we would fix the cap at $123.7m.
Please note that a majority of the members is required (16 votes) for approval, not just of the voters.

@ScottKD please vote no in the poll above so we can keep track of the vote thanks
Title: Re: Salary Cap Discussion
Post by: ScottKD on September 19, 2023, 09:15:41 AM
I understand, it's 25/26 where the major impact would occur.

I've voted in the poll.
Title: Re: Salary Cap Discussion
Post by: ScottKD on September 19, 2023, 09:23:01 AM
Fwiw with the current rules next year is projected at $130m for a cap if its 50% of the difference between 110m and the expected NBA salary cap which is 150ish.

25/26 a major impact would occur, as it would it would cut it from being 165 to 136.

26/27 is projected to be at 181 so your proposing we wait and make it jump from 136 to 181.  Which seems like the opposite of cap smoothing, imo.

The original update that Billy locked in was actually a smoother path. 110 > 130 > 165 > 181

VS the newly proposed path of 110 > 124 > 136 > 181.
Title: Re: Salary Cap Discussion
Post by: Interpaga on September 19, 2023, 10:52:33 AM
Just to clarify, the estimated path under the new proposal would be 110 - 124 - 136 - 150 - 165 - 181 (rolling two seasons earlier).
To limit as much as possible the impact of changing the rules in the middle of FA, if we decide to approve the adjustment, we will keep for 2024/25 the cap as 50% of the difference between 110m and the expected NBA salary cap next season (estimated 150m). We will start with the 2 years earlier rolling cap system only from season 2025/26.
The estimated path in this case would be:
- current season 110m
- next season 130m
- 2025/26 136m
- 2026/27 150m
- 2027/28 165m
- 2028/29 181m.
Players salary table will be adjusted each season proportionally with the increase in salary cap
Title: Re: Salary Cap Discussion
Post by: Interpaga on September 25, 2023, 10:55:38 AM
The proposal for an adjustment to the salary cap has been approved.

We will keep for 2024/25 the cap as 50% of the difference between 110m and the expected NBA salary cap next season (estimated 150m). We will start with the 2 years earlier rolling cap system from season 2025/26.

The estimated path would be:
- current season 110m
- next season 130m
- 2025/26 136m
- 2026/27 150m
- 2027/28 165m
- 2028/29 181m.

The spreadsheet will be updated accordingly to the estimated cap above