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Title: Avs/Pens trade
Post by: Rob on July 15, 2011, 12:54:11 PM
Per PM:

:COL-NHL: gets Evgeni    Malkin   C   $8,700,000   (13/14) & 1st round pick #17
:PIT-NHL: gets Chris   Stewart   RW   $2,900,000   (11/12) & 4th round pick #2
Title: Re: Avs/Pens trade
Post by: Rob on July 15, 2011, 01:00:51 PM
I'm hoping don't have the picks reversed?
Title: Re: Avs/Pens trade
Post by: BeanTown on July 15, 2011, 01:06:28 PM
Wow nice deal. PIT gets to shed almost 6 millionin cap and still gets a star in Stewart and COL gets Malkin which is enough said! Takes a lot of cap, but well worth it. Nice trade boys

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Title: Re: Avs/Pens trade
Post by: snugerud on July 15, 2011, 01:34:01 PM
I'm hoping don't have the picks reversed?

My name is Jared Larsen and I approve this message.

I have the cap room and add another 1st rounder.

He gets a well sought after RW and drops a lot of cap.
Title: Re: Avs/Pens trade
Post by: cho34 on July 16, 2011, 10:34:10 AM
Per PM:

:COL-NHL: gets Evgeni    Malkin   C   $8,700,000   (13/14) & 1st round pick #17
:PIT-NHL: gets Chris   Stewart   RW   $2,900,000   (11/12) & 4th round pick #2

thanks Rob for putting up the deal as I was busy at work

My name is Jared Larsen and I approve this message.

I have the cap room and add another 1st rounder.

He gets a well sought after RW and drops a lot of cap.

I confirm the deal

Again I get a RW to play on Sid line, shed cap and tough to lose on Malkin but never been a huge fan of him

Thanks for the deak snugerud
Title: Re: Avs/Pens trade
Post by: Rob on July 16, 2011, 10:37:28 AM
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Title: Re: Avs/Pens trade
Post by: izaman3 on July 16, 2011, 11:32:05 AM
Chris Stewart is a great young player on the rise, but I feel this trade is pretty lopsided. I'm not a Malkin fan but he is a Ross and Conn Symthe winner. What do the other TC members think?
Title: Re: Avs/Pens trade
Post by: Anthony on July 16, 2011, 04:26:04 PM
 :iatp: its fine
Title: Re: Avs/Pens trade
Post by: BrewCrew on July 16, 2011, 05:48:53 PM
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Title: Re: Avs/Pens trade
Post by: GypsieDeathBringer on July 16, 2011, 11:18:05 PM
I'm not on the trade committee but I think this trade is crazy lopsided.  Malkin had a terrible season last year, and without a freak knee injury would've had a more productive season that Chris Stewart has ever had.  A straight up trade makes sense, because the cap dump compensates for the skill difference between the 2 players, but to also add a 1st round pick seems too much.  Just my 2 cents as a fellow manager.
Title: Re: Avs/Pens trade
Post by: BrewCrew on July 17, 2011, 01:30:22 AM
I'm not on the trade committee but I think this trade is crazy lopsided.  Malkin had a terrible season last year, and without a freak knee injury would've had a more productive season that Chris Stewart has ever had.  A straight up trade makes sense, because the cap dump compensates for the skill difference between the 2 players, but to also add a 1st round pick seems too much.  Just my 2 cents as a fellow manager.

after looking up Malkin, I didn't realize he was so injured.

The thing is is that he seems so injury proned, though I do kind of agree that he is ertainly better when healthy.

I'd like to retract my bid for the being, if I'm allowed.
Title: Re: Avs/Pens trade
Post by: BeanTown on July 17, 2011, 09:54:20 AM
You also have to consider that Stew was injured almost all last yr too then eh! When healthy he is a PPG or more player. I think in the other trade (MTL Trade) that went through we set a precident that the cap dump allows for a bigger gap, if we let that deal go through, I dont see why this one gets un-approved.

Not that this trade affects me directly, but just my opinion that a 6 million cap save is a HUGE bonus as they can be 2 more good players. And it seems Stewart is being under-estimated a bit here as he is a start RW in fantasy terms
Title: Re: Avs/Pens trade
Post by: izaman3 on July 17, 2011, 11:07:30 AM
You also have to consider that Stew was injured almost all last yr too then eh! When healthy he is a PPG or more player. I think in the other trade (MTL Trade) that went through we set a precident that the cap dump allows for a bigger gap, if we let that deal go through, I dont see why this one gets un-approved.

Not that this trade affects me directly, but just my opinion that a 6 million cap save is a HUGE bonus as they can be 2 more good players. And it seems Stewart is being under-estimated a bit here as he is a start RW in fantasy terms

Stewart has yet to be a ppg player, he is close and he's getting better every year, but Malkin is proven to be more than a ppg player. I'm not under-estimating Stewart, he is a great young talent on the rise, but he is yet to show he can produce at more than a ppg, maybe he would have last year, but'll we can't know that now. Also I thought from the get-go that the Montreal trade was even, and the cap space gained was only a few mil per year. I'm fine with deals that save Cap, I approved the Sabres/Pens trade no problem, but this is a different thing entirely. I've been thinking about this one really hard and I veto.
Title: Re: Avs/Pens trade
Post by: Anthony on July 17, 2011, 02:33:43 PM
ill change my vote to veto. i have been convinced. without the picks it would be fine.
Title: Re: Avs/Pens trade
Post by: -BA- on July 17, 2011, 07:23:34 PM
Far too lopsided for me.

Veto
Title: Re: Avs/Pens trade
Post by: snugerud on July 18, 2011, 08:05:03 AM
Just my 2 cents.  1) Stud RW are much harder to find than Centers. 2) Stewart has only played 2 years in the NHL and has improved every year.  3) Stewart hits more 4) If you look at the production from last year Stewart was scoring at a higher pace per game.  oh and 6 million cheaper. 

The other thing I will point out is that Cho34 is currently running 15 fantasy teams. It is not like he is a newbie.
Title: Re: Avs/Pens trade
Post by: snugerud on July 18, 2011, 09:36:09 AM
I also checked fantasy points for both in the last 2 years

Chris Stewart 2010 - 205.2    2009 - 260.95

Malkin --- 2010 - 151.7   2009 -- 275.5
Title: Re: Avs/Pens trade
Post by: Anthony on July 18, 2011, 03:55:08 PM
after reconsidering 2 times i decide to allow this trade. The players are pretty even. a late first round for an early 4th round is just so he would take the cap space IMO.

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gocubsgo7 - Allow
Robo - Allow
-BA- - Veto
BeanTown - Allow
izaman3 - Veto
BrewCrew -
Fantasy Nightmares -
Title: Re: Avs/Pens trade
Post by: BrewCrew on July 18, 2011, 09:52:52 PM
Considering that Malkin is like $6M more, I will allow.
Title: Re: Avs/Pens trade
Post by: Fantasy Nightmares on July 19, 2011, 12:15:10 AM
i approve this trade guys
Title: Re: Avs/Pens trade
Post by: Rob on July 20, 2011, 02:14:41 PM
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