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Archive => Backyard NHL: Transactions => Backyard NHL => Archive => Backyard NHL: Invalid Transactions => Topic started by: Drew on April 20, 2011, 03:37:44 AM
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I think this would work well for a minor league cap:
Next Season - $50m
Year 2 - $40m
Year 3 - Half the actual cap and follows there after
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Cut it from 50 to 30, and the next season make it 20... We need to clear the space as fast as possible.
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I see the point of this but we can't enforce this unless u cut the amount of ppl in our minor leagues because 30 million is only 2 million a guy say you have a few top end prospects now some how u have to balance it by not getting high end prospects? I get the idea so we don't have iginla and Thornton and top end players like that in the minors but I don't like the idea one bit
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You don't need to fill your minor league with 2 mil players. If you have a minor league with 15 players worth 2 mil each then I think we have a problem at 30m. The minor league should have some players with N/C, probably some players worth 0.5-1m and of course a player maybe worth 5-7m and maybe a couple 2m players. If you have an entire minor league team worth over 30m then I think we'd have a problem. =| 30m is a lot to work with unless you are sending 3-4 players worth 5-7m each down there. Our actual team rosters are only 60m do you really need more then half a teams cap space in your minor league? =|
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You don't need to fill your minor league with 2 mil players. If you have a minor league with 15 players worth 2 mil each then I think we have a problem at 30m. The minor league should have some players with N/C, probably some players worth 0.5-1m and of course a player maybe worth 5-7m and maybe a couple 2m players. If you have an entire minor league team worth over 30m then I think we'd have a problem. =| 30m is a lot to work with unless you are sending 3-4 players worth 5-7m each down there. Our actual team rosters are only 60m do you really need more then half a teams cap space in your minor league? =|
Exactly my thought... I know my entire minor league team has no contracts, and I only sent two guys to the minors, and that is because they both suffered season ending injuries. Now that we have three IR spots, it is very possible to keep your minor system below 30M in my opinion.
I think keeping the cash at 50M is being too geneous... These players should all be playing, not sitting in the minor leagues. Force people to start moving their higher end contracts (like I do) instead of just sending all of them down.
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We could do 40m this year then 35m in 12-13. In 2013-14 could go 30m or half of the real NHL cap. This will eventually help with the stopping of big contracts being put in the minors.
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It is also a 3 year plan where we start next year basically without a cap but it is there and people are thinking about it. The next year if players are still sitting in minors there will be a cap of 40m that will restrict teams but they will still be able to maintain it without problems. By year 3, we will have it at half the major league salary and teams with players that have been sitting there for the start will be moved out or their contracts have run out.
I don't think half the major league salary is too little, around 30m, because right now the team with the most cash in the minors is Dallas at 35.2m once Pronger gets down there. So 30m is pretty manageable.
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Have you seen Dallas's minor league? If he can get all of this in the minors and still be barely over the cap then 30m is more then enough. I hope we get to the point where even 30m is too much. It would be nice if we could start with 30m next year also, starting with 50m is silly, just slap the 30m on and teams over 30m can delete one contract from their minors with no repercussions to reach the point where they are under 30m so that they have to start actually paying attention to it. People need to be more aware of what and who they are trading not just trade whoever and take whatever cap hit they want and just send them down if they don't have room.
C - Sean Backman, N/C (0 games)
*C - Joe Thornton, $7.0m (2013-14)
*C - Matt Cullen, $3.5m (2012-13)
*C - Saku Koivu, $2.5m (2011-12)
*C - Mike Fisher, $4.2 (2012-13)
*LW - Michael Cammalleri, $6.0m (2013-14)
*LW - Matt Cooke, $1.3m (2011-12)
*LW - Kirill Kabanov, $0.2m (2011-12)
*LW - Austin Watson, $1.0m (2011-12)
RW - Scott Glennie, N/C (0 games)
D - Jared Cowen, N/C (0 games)
D - Phillp Larsen, N/C (8 games)
*D - Roman Hamrlik, $4.6m (2012-13)
*D - Chris Pronger, $4.9m (2013-14)
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I see your point Miku but you have to give teams like Dallas time to trade or move players up. Teams might have to let these players stay in the minors until their contracts run out. Teams made these decicions not knowing there would be a cap. It would be unfair to tell them they are maxed out without time to make the moves they need to fix the problem. I could see the plan going from 40 to 35 to 30 or half the NHL cap.
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I know were using me cause im a fine example of someone with a huge minor roster....but just so folks aren't upset, I do plan on adding a few propects, and quite a few big boys, then moving some others...no matter the cap space I can be under it...Im currently at 35 mill and change without counting the few prospects with NC....after I call many up during the waiver free period I won't have any issues....this is a rough time cause u can send people down while you re-build, but not able to bring up till waiver free to finalize all the work I put in.....like I said though, whatever the cap, I will make it!!
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I'm just wondering where your going to get cap to bring up these players. You might be able to bring one up but probably not many more then that. Also side question, the draft is before the free moving period, and Gilly has no room for the players he gets from the draft. What's going to happen? Is Gilly going to have to bring players up before the draft to make room?
Edit: Just realized Gilly has no picks.
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I know were using me cause im a fine example of someone with a huge minor roster....but just so folks aren't upset, I do plan on adding a few prospects, and quite a few big boys, then moving some others...no matter the cap space I can be under it...Im currently at 35 mill and change without counting the few prospects with NC....after I call many up during the waiver free period I won't have any issues....this is a rough time cause u can send people down while you re-build, but not able to bring up till waiver free to finalize all the work I put in.....like I said though, whatever the cap, I will make it!!
But we don't see you making the cap... I made a trade with you to specifically give you some cap, and the next day, you use all that free cap again. Its my not space to tell you what to do, but its hard to say you are making the effort when you are always spending to the cap. Its as the old saying goes, "Actions speak louder than words."
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Im sorry Miku and others who appear bothered by me, I truly meant this re-build to be a good thing!! I can't change that everyone is in the minors, but I can stop it from happening in the future!!! Please accept my appologizes for frustrating you or confusing you all!!
I've chosen the direction I wanna go, thus nobody getting anymore pm's for trades or me saying no to the million offers Im getting.....if anyone can suggest a way to help about the minor guys I'm open to positive, nice suggestions!!
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Im sorry Miku and others who appear bothered by me, I truly meant this re-build to be a good thing!! I can't change that everyone is in the minors, but I can stop it from happening in the future!!! Please accept my appologizes for frustrating you or confusing you all!!
I've chosen the direction I wanna go, thus nobody getting anymore pm's for trades or me saying no to the million offers Im getting.....if anyone can suggest a way to help about the minor guys I'm open to positive, nice suggestions!!
You are a good guy to work with, and I enjoy playing this game with you. But I hope you understand where we are coming from.
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My direction was a little crazy for a few days, but I settled it down and chose were I was going....im trying bud :)
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Haha, I wasn't bothered just confused. I had no idea what you were doing making trades for players then trading them the very next day. :crazy:
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np bud, glad all its all good....:)
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A teams MILR should not be used to stash high end talent. I say reduce the contract cap way down to so true prospects are there only. I fixed date not to far off should be set. If players are not moved up or traded they should be released to FA. I am new to this and probably the oldest, lol, trying to grasp this format, and in my opinion those high end talent players should not be in the minors. Thats not how the real NHL works.
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While since Im trying to move them in trades but no bites yet I would be more than happy to release them to FA at a set date if there not on my main roster :) :)
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I say the date should be three days before the season starts and it should be 30M to start... This will give people plenty of time to trade away or make roster space for these players. In the real NHL, there are some vets (for example, the guy from the Oilers who is playing in Hershey) playing in the AHL, so having a guy or two shouldn't be too big of a stink.
But I disagree with releasing these guys to free agency. In my opinion, you made the mistake, so you should live with it. Cause if that is the case, I am sure a lot of people would want some players released off of their roster (for being too expensive). And if we make the date three days before the start of the season, that should be plenty of time to get your cap under control.
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I will be under 30 mill come heck or high water....was just trying to be open to suggestions or idea's.....I messed it up and I have no issue living with it...was just trying to be open-minded to ideas is all!! :)
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I would not worry too much. I think you will have at least 2 years to fix it if there is cap in the minors. :thumbsup:
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So are we going 40-35-30?
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I know earlier I didn't like this rule but now actually seeing it in place in Northern I think 30m is too much I say we slowly hit 20m maybe like a 30m - 25m - 20m
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I am thinking of changing this to a 2 year thing. I now have the rule that is only players in the last year of their contract can be sent down. 1st year would be 25m next year would be 20m.
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I am thinking of changing this to a 2 year thing. I now have the rule that is only players in the last year of their contract can be sent down. 1st year would be 25m next year would be 20m.
I like it and think it is fair. :thumbsup:
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I was thinking 3 years just so Gilly has a chance to get rid of players from his minors unless he has a plan to move 7.2m from his minors.
He currently is at 32.2m in his minors
1 year from now if he doesn't call anyone up he will be at 28.8m
then when the cap goes to 20m he will only be at 15.7m
I think these numbers are more manageable for him or he is cutting 7.2m this year and 5m the year after
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I was thinking 3 years just so Gilly has a chance to get rid of players from his minors unless he has a plan to move 7.2m from his minors.
He currently is at 32.2m in his minors
1 year from now if he doesn't call anyone up he will be at 28.8m
then when the cap goes to 20m he will only be at 15.7m
I think these numbers are more manageable for him or he is cutting 7.2m this year and 5m the year after
He does have the cap space. He also has a lot of contracts expiring this year to.
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I was thinking 3 years just so Gilly has a chance to get rid of players from his minors unless he has a plan to move 7.2m from his minors.
He currently is at 32.2m in his minors
1 year from now if he doesn't call anyone up he will be at 28.8m
then when the cap goes to 20m he will only be at 15.7m
I think these numbers are more manageable for him or he is cutting 7.2m this year and 5m the year after
Yes I know he plans on bringing up Thornton and has cap space. Can't not make a rule just cuz it effects one person negatively. I know Gilly will be able to make space and I imagine he could always move them to other teams to carry the cap or even use the players if they fail to get what they want in free agency.