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Title: Red Sox/Royals Announce a Barter
Post by: Bazinga McCringa on September 25, 2013, 12:19:35 PM
Royals Give:
Wil Myers
Red Sox Give:
Will Middlebrooks (team control until 2018)
Josh Reddick (team control until 2017)
Lance McCullers (top #50 prospect)
Miguel Gonzalez (team control until 2018)
3rd and 5th round picks

A good deal for both sides, potentially losing Ellsbury weakens my outfield with no help on the way from the farm, and getting Myers means I won't have to get into a bidding war for the likes of Shin-Soo Choo and can focus more readily on SP/Closer help. I hate to lose Middlebrooks, but you have to give something to get something, and to do this deal without losing my first rounder, Anthony Ranuado, or Jose Fernandez is the most I could hope for, so I thank the Royals for their flexibility. I feel McCullers has real potential at the big league level, but he is still years away. And as for Gonzalez, I'm dealing from depth there, despite his 4 years more under team control.
Title: Re: Red Sox/Royals Announce a Barter
Post by: seanrmgallagher on September 25, 2013, 07:19:40 PM
Royals accept. Obviously, losing Myers is tough, he was the most valuable asset on my team by far. But, I get Middlebrooks and Reddick, who I hope will resemble their second half selves and put their awful first halves behind them. Reddick because of his wrist and Middlebrooks because of a sophomore slump. It is good to get cheap depth. I like McCullers arm a lot, and Miguel Gonzalez adds a solid starter to the back of my rotation. Thanks to the Red Sox for the good dealings.
Title: Re: Red Sox/Royals Announce a Barter
Post by: snbts on September 25, 2013, 07:20:10 PM
Wasn't a deal like this vetoed earlier this year (Pujols)
Title: Re: Red Sox/Royals Announce a Barter
Post by: yahoolando on September 25, 2013, 07:32:06 PM
 :veto:

Way too much for Myers

Especially for a rebuilding team
Title: Re: Red Sox/Royals Announce a Barter
Post by: snbts on September 25, 2013, 07:39:20 PM
Totally agree

 :veto:
Title: Re: Red Sox/Royals Announce a Barter
Post by: Fitzy1962 on September 25, 2013, 07:46:41 PM
It looks fairly lopsided to me. Myers is a great talent, but Middlebrooks is as well and plays a premium position at 3rd-base and then to include a starting established Of in Reddick plus draft-picks and other players seems like too much to pay.
Title: Re: Red Sox/Royals Announce a Barter
Post by: Jss0062 on September 25, 2013, 08:11:08 PM
Seems very lopsided to me. Trading all that talent that still has multiple team control years for a guy with only half season in the majors to go off of is a bit much.
Title: Red Sox/Royals Announce a Barter
Post by: Dre2k19 on September 25, 2013, 08:15:58 PM
I do think it's a lot for Myers and I would not have done that deal. However I don't think it is over the top enough to veto. I like a gm being able to have control of his team and if both sides thinks this deal is good for their teams I see no problem. There is a point of too much for one guy and this is close but not over the top to me.
Title: Re: Red Sox/Royals Announce a Barter
Post by: Sportsnut on September 25, 2013, 08:35:21 PM
I also believe this is too one-sided.

 :veto:
Title: Re: Red Sox/Royals Announce a Barter
Post by: seanrmgallagher on September 26, 2013, 12:55:34 AM
I completely agree with the system for vetoing and support this coming down, but will present the argument for Bazinga on this matter, because I honestly think a real team may consider it.  Wil Myers is obviously a stud, 5 years left and proving he can kill ML pitching and will be a cleanup hitter. He is a top 3 prospect that has already proven himself.
Middlebrooks, while I like him, was sent down this year and has been very inconsistent, good player, but not even a true lock to start for the duration of his contract- he is batting better now, but has a .231 batting average on the season and pitchers may be figuring him out, recent hot streak aside. Reddick had a good year last year, but he is batting .222, is no lock to start next year in Oakland's crowded outfield. He was traded along with prospects for Andrew Bailey 2 years ago and his career year was with a 242 average and ops under 800. Miguel Gonzalez is a back end of the rotation starter at best and has been a surprise to all scouts and outperformed his peripherals. McCullers is a coin flip on any success in the majors and the draft picks where they are have a 1 in 10 chance of amounting to anything at all.
I support the veto and the system, but I completely understand where the Sox were coming from.
Title: Re: Red Sox/Royals Announce a Barter
Post by: chrisetc21 on September 26, 2013, 01:11:50 AM
I wouldn't have included McCullers and the draft picks but unless there's evidence of some collusion, I think the trade should be approved.
Title: Re: Red Sox/Royals Announce a Barter
Post by: mrmetsman on September 26, 2013, 09:22:33 AM
I agree with the majority of the voters in thinking this is indeed a lop-sided trade.
However,it's not worth a veto imo.

I think it's a big risk trade.
Putting a lot at stake for a still not unproven big time prospect.
But when Myers develops in the big time player all the experts think he will be in 2 years we all think what a great deal this was.

So for this moment it looks much,and a big risk,but if an owner is prepared to take that risk he should be able to do so.

I would approve this trade.
Title: Re: Red Sox/Royals Announce a Barter
Post by: Bazinga McCringa on September 26, 2013, 11:48:02 AM
Please veto the trade, KC and I will modify it and hopefully re-post it in a new thread later.
Title: Re: Red Sox/Royals Announce a Barter
Post by: jbgosox on September 26, 2013, 08:21:03 PM
This seems like a fairly equal trade to me. Although the Red Sox are giving up Middlebrooks who has great potential, this trade should not be vetoed. In the e
Title: Re: Red Sox/Royals Announce a Barter
Post by: yahoolando on September 30, 2013, 07:21:18 PM
Please veto the trade, KC and I will modify it and hopefully re-post it in a new thread later.

This is being vetoed.