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Title: Detroit - Minnesota Blockbuster Trade
Post by: thunderblade on August 08, 2013, 05:06:41 PM
Title: Re: Detroit - Minnesota Blockbuster Trade
Post by: norrya66 on August 08, 2013, 05:11:26 PM
:MIN-NHL: receives:

Alex Ovechkin, $9.5m (2013-14)
Adam McQuaid, $1.0m (2013-14)

:DET-NHL: receives:

Ryan O'Reilly, $1.9m (2013-14)
Max Talbot, $2.5m (2013-14)
Niklas Hjalmarsson, $1.4m (2014-15)
Jonas Hiller $4.5m (2013-14)
Jared Cowen, $2.0m (2013-14)

:MIN-NHL: confirms.  I'm not real high on Hiller, but he does have a shot of getting the majority of start in Anaheim.  I have pretty decent depth at G, even though I don't have a "starter".  I really don't mind moving Talbot, Hjalmarsson, or Cowen, but O'Reilly was hard to move.  I think he has a ton of upside.  That said, I was desperate for a winger.  Ovechkin is my answer.  I think he has a lot of good year left.  McQuaid was just a throw in.

Thanks for the deal thunder!  :toast:
Title: Re: Detroit - Minnesota Blockbuster Trade
Post by: Tony on August 08, 2013, 07:31:16 PM
I'm not sure about this one. I will see what others say.
Title: Re: Detroit - Minnesota Blockbuster Trade
Post by: norrya66 on August 08, 2013, 07:33:24 PM
You think I'm giving up too much?
Title: Re: Detroit - Minnesota Blockbuster Trade
Post by: Tony on August 08, 2013, 07:35:15 PM
You think I'm giving up too much?
Yes because Hiller alone should get more points then Ovechkin. 
Title: Detroit - Minnesota Blockbuster Trade
Post by: Tyler on August 08, 2013, 07:36:13 PM
Hmmmmm on the fence here as well, I see Hillier as a starting G and O'Reilly is a young stud, the rest added is a lot. Yes Ovie us Ovie but I think FP wise it is a blowout getting a starting G plus a stud young player who put up great FP plus great supporting cast

Not sure heee
Title: Re: Detroit - Minnesota Blockbuster Trade
Post by: norrya66 on August 08, 2013, 07:53:13 PM
Yes because Hiller alone should get more points then Ovechkin.

Ok, I understand.  I really just think goalies are a bit over rated in this league.  Hiller split starts at the end of last year, and Anaheim has two great young goalies coming up.  I do like O'Reilly, but he has had trouble off the ice, and the rest of the guys were really just throw in's.  That's fine if people don't pass it, but I just think Ovechkin is a top 2 or 3 fantasy hockey player, and I was willing to pay this price.
Title: Re: Detroit - Minnesota Blockbuster Trade
Post by: yahoolando on August 08, 2013, 07:59:23 PM
I really just think goalies are a bit over rated in this league.

They are overrated but needed!  With the way the points are set-up and starting 2 each night Goalies are above and beyond the kings of this league.

That being said Ovechkin's contract is huge so the addition of the all players is one of the only ways to make the cap balance.

Whatever floats your boat!

 :iatp:

But love :DET-NHL: get here especially with what I gave up for Backstrom.  Thunder is on fire!
Title: Re: Detroit - Minnesota Blockbuster Trade
Post by: Drew on August 08, 2013, 09:10:00 PM
I am ok with this Hiller was splitting starts with Fasth but did make all the playoff starts. That being said the ducks have a goalie named John Gibson coming up that may only be a year away from challenging at the NHL level. Ovie should be a bit cheaper of a resign but I don't mind the high risk, high reward moves.
Title: Re: Detroit - Minnesota Blockbuster Trade
Post by: thunderblade on August 08, 2013, 09:24:35 PM
Norry, going in understands the value of goalies in this league. He assessed his roster, saw he needed LW help, and to achieve his goal of a top flight LW dangled Hiller out there in a offer. He has 3 other 1A-B goalies. We worked out a deal. Players involved to even out the cap hit. There is no sure thing in any trade. We critique it but eventually the future will unfold the story on this trade . You have to give up a lot to acquire a player of Ovechkin's caliber. My trade with the Jets was not announced until I had secured Hiller from Minnesota. I traded Backstrom knowing I had Hiller coming. Hope my season does not go down the drain now. Its a fair trade all in all.
Title: Detroit - Minnesota Blockbuster Trade
Post by: Gilly on August 08, 2013, 09:36:49 PM
im good with this deal actually so i approve
Title: Re: Detroit - Minnesota Blockbuster Trade
Post by: favo_zomg on August 08, 2013, 10:57:02 PM
I'm gonna have to think about this too for all the reasons previously mentioned.
Title: Re: Detroit - Minnesota Blockbuster Trade
Post by: Tony on August 08, 2013, 11:21:09 PM
Norry, going in understands the value of goalies in this league. He assessed his roster, saw he needed LW help, and to achieve his goal of a top flight LW dangled Hiller out there in a offer. He has 3 other 1A-B goalies. We worked out a deal. Players involved to even out the cap hit. There is no sure thing in any trade. We critique it but eventually the future will unfold the story on this trade . You have to give up a lot to acquire a player of Ovechkin's caliber. My trade with the Jets was not announced until I had secured Hiller from Minnesota. I traded Backstrom knowing I had Hiller coming. Hope my season does not go down the drain now. Its a fair trade all in all.
Ovechkin is a RW.
Title: Re: Detroit - Minnesota Blockbuster Trade
Post by: Tony on August 08, 2013, 11:23:32 PM
I don't do this often but sorry I have to :veto: this trade.
Title: Re: Detroit - Minnesota Blockbuster Trade
Post by: thunderblade on August 09, 2013, 12:16:43 AM
Thank You Tony for bringing to my attention that Fantrax no longer has Ovie dual position LW, RW, anymore. Just RW.
Title: Re: Detroit - Minnesota Blockbuster Trade
Post by: Tony on August 09, 2013, 12:25:49 AM
Thank You Tony for bringing to my attention that Fantrax no longer has Ovie dual position LW, RW, anymore. Just RW.
No Problem.  It is weird to see him as only a RW. 
Title: Re: Detroit - Minnesota Blockbuster Trade
Post by: Drew on August 09, 2013, 12:31:42 AM
Sorry I forgot to state that I approve.

This means thus far 3 approvals and 1 veto
Title: Re: Detroit - Minnesota Blockbuster Trade
Post by: thunderblade on August 09, 2013, 12:35:14 AM
Checking the rules it says 3 approvals for a trade to pass. With the 3 now, is the trade a go?
Title: Re: Detroit - Minnesota Blockbuster Trade
Post by: norrya66 on August 09, 2013, 03:06:52 PM
 :bump:
Title: Re: Detroit - Minnesota Blockbuster Trade
Post by: favo_zomg on August 10, 2013, 12:58:45 PM
Question - Will Detroit have enough roster space to facilitate the deal? He has three open roster spaces. He has what looks to be two guys coming in via FA and 1 extra guy coming from Winnipeg.
Title: Re: Detroit - Minnesota Blockbuster Trade
Post by: norrya66 on August 10, 2013, 01:00:33 PM
He will definitely have to waive some guys
Title: Re: Detroit - Minnesota Blockbuster Trade
Post by: favo_zomg on August 10, 2013, 01:14:51 PM
I'm not a fan of the deal, but  :iatp:
Title: Re: Detroit - Minnesota Blockbuster Trade
Post by: thunderblade on August 10, 2013, 01:48:09 PM
I have options.
Title: Re: Re: Detroit - Minnesota Blockbuster Trade
Post by: Drew on August 10, 2013, 02:04:14 PM
I have options.
Since this trade will be invalid, Detroit will have to make roster moves in order to make this move valid.
Title: Re: Detroit - Minnesota Blockbuster Trade
Post by: thunderblade on August 10, 2013, 02:18:36 PM
Not to nit pick but it was the FA acquisitions a day after the trade, that put me over the roster limit. Trade is good, moves will be posted shortly.
Title: Re: Re: Detroit - Minnesota Blockbuster Trade
Post by: Drew on August 10, 2013, 02:28:22 PM
Not to nit pick but it was the FA acquisitions a day after the trade, that put me over the roster limit. Trade is good, moves will be posted shortly.
Ok well move has to be done either for this move or for free agent acquisitions.
Title: Re: Detroit - Minnesota Blockbuster Trade
Post by: norrya66 on August 15, 2013, 11:10:26 AM
Any idea when this will be processed?  Just curious on if I need to make more waiver moves or not.  Thanks!  :toast:
Title: Re: Detroit - Minnesota Blockbuster Trade
Post by: Drew on August 19, 2013, 04:57:21 PM
    Detroit begins to reshape the roster with this blockbuster.
        • Detroit Trades
            • Alex Ovechkin, $9.5m (2013-14)
              Adam McQuaid, $1.0m (2013-14)
          Minnesota Trades
          Ryan O'Reilly, $1.9m (2013-14)
          Max Talbot, $2.5m (2013-14
          Niklas Hjalmarsson, $1.4m (2014-15)
          Jonas Hiller $4.5m (2013-14)
          Jared Cowen, $2.0m (2013-14)
          Trading OV on a high note, happy with return. Add depth and a prospect, and Jonas Hiller a #1 goalie. Thanks for the deal norrya66. Please place Cowan on MILR.
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