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  • Fitzy1962: Maybe the easiest way to say it is "if he's in the 1st year of an ARB contract, then he isn't eligible, because technically his ARB status for next year means he doesn't have a contract?
    Today at 05:56:40 PM
  • mike0542: i understand that, but why is that a rule.
    Today at 05:56:57 PM
  • Jpsprague10: Free agency is going to be insane
    Today at 05:57:12 PM
  • 9inches: sand, whats going on in MB?
    Today at 05:57:34 PM
  • mike0542: I understand the rule, but i don't understand why its a rule.
    Today at 05:57:35 PM
  • Ace: sandman shall we just say that's the rule; exceeded rookie status in 2012 is eligible, exceeded in 2011 ineligible
    Today at 05:57:51 PM
  • Fitzy1962: 1st year of ARB is when they begin getting paid by market value depermined usually by an "arbitrator" and no one knows what that number will be.
    Today at 05:58:01 PM
  • Jpsprague10: I think a better route would have been to make.them draftable with the knowledge they would need to be extended
    Today at 05:58:09 PM
  • Fitzy1962: But we don't have any extention information yet.
    Today at 05:59:05 PM
  • mike0542: I know what Stanton is worth on the open Market. If he was eligible, I'm sure people would draft him knowing that he has a big payday coming
    Today at 05:59:16 PM
  • sandman: Jp that would open up a huge can of worms.
    Today at 05:59:19 PM
  • Jpsprague10: or even a set price for.the initial arb eligibles in terms of contract value
    Today at 05:59:24 PM
  • sandman: Extension values are determined after FA
    Today at 05:59:29 PM
  • Vollmernator: So many players don't have a contract past 2014
    Today at 05:59:50 PM
  • sandman: So its possible Stanton could be a 30m resign and yet the team took him 3rd overall only has 8m left. Thus cant afford him.
    Today at 05:59:52 PM
  • sandman: The rule is very simple and even across the board.
    Today at 06:00:08 PM
  • mike0542: Well then give him a certain amount of time to get under cap
    Today at 06:01:14 PM
  • Vollmernator: Can't wait to pick with my 1st pick I pick 12th
    Today at 06:01:16 PM
  • Jpsprague10: I love the premise of the prospect.contracts/extensions...the start up is a little sketchy though. Either way...go Angels!!!
    Today at 06:01:38 PM
  • Ace: sandman; can you answer my q, example is Lance Lynn eligible [link]
    Today at 06:02:12 PM
  • Fitzy1962: But it would help to know what the values would be now. Good example is Bryce Harper on a cheap 1 yr deal but we have no idea what it will cost for him in 2016.
    Today at 06:02:15 PM
  • sandman: It was difficult to come up with 1 rule set for eligibility and this was the easiest
    Today at 06:02:43 PM
  • Ace: if the rule is 3 years as of aug 1 then that's not easy at all
    Today at 06:04:49 PM
  • sandman: Lynn is. He passed the 50innings rookie threshold in 2012 making him a P-2015 player
    Today at 06:04:50 PM
  • Vollmernator: Fitzy you have any idea who you want in BTL
    Today at 06:04:59 PM
  • Fitzy1962: @Ace - yes?
    Today at 06:05:05 PM
  • Ace: easiest is current arb=ineligible, pre-arb=eligible
    Today at 06:05:21 PM
  • Fitzy1962: I'm trying to get clarity on some rules first.
    Today at 06:05:29 PM
  • Fitzy1962: So Lynn IS draftable!
    Today at 06:05:55 PM
  • Ace: but baseball ref has lynn as exceeding rookie limit in 2011 (different rules)
    Today at 06:05:56 PM
  • Fitzy1962: Can anyone tell me how much Bryce Harper is going to cost on an extension?
    Today at 06:06:33 PM
  • Ace: we need a quick and easy way to check for all players imo
    Today at 06:06:40 PM
  • Vollmernator: How do I know if a players Eligble to be drafted I was looking for players with 2015 contracts I'm not sure if I can pick a player
    Today at 06:07:12 PM
  • Ace: if we said all arb ineligible how many super 2's would we actually lose?
    Today at 06:07:24 PM
  • sandman: Fitzy no. Extension values are set after our Free Agency
    Today at 06:10:42 PM
  • ThePetis: Fitzy, extension values are based on the contracts handed out during free agency
    Today at 06:11:22 PM
  • ThePetis: well, that and the existing contracts
    Today at 06:11:38 PM
  • Ace: looking at bbref; lynn is listed as pre-arb, earliest arb eligible 2015 so to make things easy for start up draft why not use bbref as gospel
    Today at 06:12:21 PM
  • ThePetis: [link]
    Today at 06:12:35 PM
  • ThePetis: those are the BLB extension values... very similar league
    Today at 06:12:45 PM
  • ThePetis: Just realize that the values there were contracts inherited or bid on in free agency
    Today at 06:13:20 PM
  • sandman: thepetis you are right on the money with extensions
    Today at 06:14:31 PM
  • Fitzy1962: Gotcha
    Today at 06:14:39 PM
  • Ace: brett oberholtzer is arb eligbile in 2017 so would be p-2017
    Today at 06:14:44 PM
  • Fitzy1962: I just wanted to have some range of values inmind, so that's a perfect example. Thanks!
    Today at 06:15:21 PM
  • sandman: Yes Ace
    Today at 06:17:20 PM
  • norrya66: hockeyfreak, you are OTC in Prospectus NHL
    Today at 06:17:49 PM
  • Ace: sandman first post of draft faq needs updating
    Today at 06:21:27 PM
  • ldsjayhawk: sandman - are you still with us in MLS Challenge
    Today at 06:23:11 PM
  • Ace: and are we taking bbref as gospel to avoid confusion? all pre-arb eligible, all arb ineligible
    Today at 06:23:45 PM

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