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Minor League Rosters
« on: April 18, 2017, 09:00:47 PM »
This has come up in a few different threads.  I think most of you know the debate.  Let's just put it to a vote.
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Re: Minor League Rosters
« Reply #1 on: April 19, 2017, 10:48:05 AM »
When would this be implemented if it passes? I'm assuming it wouldn't take effect until next offseason?
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Re: Minor League Rosters
« Reply #2 on: April 19, 2017, 11:08:45 AM »
When would this be implemented if it passes? I'm assuming it wouldn't take effect until next offseason?

Normally with changes like this I like to wait a year.  Though I don't really see the harm in implementing this earlier.  That way teams can fill their minors this offseason. 

I know I'm in the minority on this, but I'm worried about what it's going to do to the quality of the supplemental draft pool.  If we implement this immediately, we should start to see if there's an effect in the 18/19 draft. 
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Re: Minor League Rosters
« Reply #3 on: April 19, 2017, 12:52:51 PM »
This ought to be clear since you're all making roster decisions now.  I'm making the call that this change, if approved, will be effective IMMEDIATELY. 

So if you're considering cutting players now to make room for draftees this summer, please wait until the vote is complete.  It appears likely that you'll have 3 more roster spots to play with.
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Re: Minor League Rosters
« Reply #4 on: April 19, 2017, 01:04:44 PM »
Normally with changes like this I like to wait a year.  Though I don't really see the harm in implementing this earlier.  That way teams can fill their minors this offseason. 

I know I'm in the minority on this, but I'm worried about what it's going to do to the quality of the supplemental draft pool.  If we implement this immediately, we should start to see if there's an effect in the 18/19 draft.

Before voting I tried to go back and look at transactions to see if anyone dropped any players that could've then been drafted in the supplemental round and found the Avs dropped Mark Stone, I dropped Victor Rask, Bruins dropped Spooner, the Red Wings dropped Athanasiou and Larkin.  That is about it for notable players.  I can't speak to why the other players were dropped but I dropped Rask because I thought he sucked not because of a roster crunch.  But, 4+ players in what will be our 6th draft doesn't seem like a biggie, and really only Stone and Larkin are good players. Hopefully that alleviates your worries.
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Re: Minor League Rosters
« Reply #5 on: April 19, 2017, 01:15:18 PM »
I don't think it will harm future drafts all that much.

I say this because each year obviously there is a new crop of rookie draftees from the NHL, but also each year we know more about players who were passed over from last year's draft.
For example, this year, some of us will probably dip into the players from the 2016, 2015 and maybe even the 2014 draft clBooYah!  were maybe 3rd or 4th rounders, but have had solid years in their last Junior season or 2nd or 3rd NCAA season.
I mean, last year I landed Kevin Labanc and I only knew about him because he led the OHL in scoring. He was a 6th round pick in 2014. I'm pretty sure he was on exactly zero people's supp-draft radar up until about April/May of last year.

Add to that the growing amount of NHL teams signing un-drafted NCAA free agents, and there is plenty of pretty good talent to be drafted each year for our supp draft.
Oh, and the fact we get 3 keeper players each year from our own team as well.

I still think some teams will have to drop players if they accumulate several draft picks in a year. If a team has say, 5-6 draft picks from trades (their 3 plus 2-3 more acquired ones), that gives them 9 prospects to house in their minors that year. I don't see more than 2 of those 9 playing in the NHL the following year, so those 7+ others will still all be there the following season, with an additional 6 or so incoming prospects.

That's my thoughts anyways. I think 15 is the max though - been in leagues with 20 spots and that was definitely way too many. Zero tough decisions had to be made with that many spots to stash players.
« Last Edit: April 19, 2017, 03:28:30 PM by Capn Cally »
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Re: Minor League Rosters
« Reply #6 on: April 19, 2017, 01:23:36 PM »
I think it makes sense to have the larger minor league only because we no longer allow signing players to the minor leagues.  If we still allowed that I would have said 10 max. but given the number of players added through the NHL draft each year and that you cant just go out and sign a guy anytime,  I think it makes sense.
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Re: Minor League Rosters
« Reply #7 on: April 19, 2017, 02:51:03 PM »
I'll stop my constant begging for more spots at 15... I promise lol
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Re: Minor League Rosters
« Reply #8 on: April 19, 2017, 04:18:30 PM »

For example, this year, some of us will probably dip into the players from the 2016, 2015 and maybe even the 2014 draft clBooYah!  were maybe 3rd or 4th rounders, but have had solid years in their last Junior season or 2nd or 3rd NCAA season.

So we can't write out the word "c l a s s" anymore?

Haha that's hilarious... Over-sensitive much?
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Re: Minor League Rosters
« Reply #9 on: April 19, 2017, 04:20:00 PM »
So we can't write out the word "c l a s s" anymore?

Haha that's hilarious... Over-sensitive much?

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