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Title: Vegas & Sharks trade
Post by: Daddy on November 01, 2017, 01:34:55 AM
Vegas sends:
G Hunter Miska, $0.2m (2017-2019)
LW Rudolfs Balcers, $0.4m (2017-2019)

San Jose sends:
LW - Daniel Zaar, $0.2m (2016-2018)
LW - Justin Bailey (2013: 2/52 - 29 Games)  GP updated Feb26, 2017
D - Jonas Siegenthaler (2015: 2/57 - 0 Games)


Vegas cashes in on a young Goalie on a beautiful contract by acquiring more milr talent. We honestly believe we sold low, but before the recent call up Miska's value was even more limited across FNHL.

If Miska gets a #1 Goalie gig, I will kick myself, but I see him as a backup. I could be wrong. We like both the milr guys as assets moving forward. We are releasing Zarr as soon as the deal goes final (If approved by league)

Ination to confirm.

Title: Re: Vegas & Sharks trade
Post by: indiansnation on November 01, 2017, 01:42:16 AM
I add some more talent to my team i feal its hard to get goalie for cheap and i do this in this trade i add a goalie to my team i feal can help me in long run and add balcers and see him getting called up soon and being able to help my team
Title: Re: Vegas & Sharks trade
Post by: halo99 on November 01, 2017, 09:13:38 AM
Miska is nothing more than waiver wire fodder. He hasn't dominated at any level and has been awful at the AHL level.

Another easy win for Vegas.
Title: Re: Vegas & Sharks trade
Post by: jojowalkwalk on November 01, 2017, 10:05:09 AM
 :iatp:
Title: Re: Vegas & Sharks trade
Post by: Daddy on November 01, 2017, 05:00:35 PM
Miska is nothing more than waiver wire fodder. He hasn't dominated at any level and has been awful at the AHL level.

Another easy win for Vegas.
Everybody can't be Niemi.

Besides it's not every 22yr old goalie that finds his way on to an NHL roster at all. Given that in the year 2027 he will still be just 32, I find you're condemning him to be just a bit premature. Guy has his whole life and career in front of him.
Title: Re: Vegas & Sharks trade
Post by: halo99 on November 01, 2017, 05:31:16 PM
Everybody can't be Niemi.

Besides it's not every 22yr old goalie that finds his way on to an NHL roster at all. Given that in the year 2027 he will still be just 32, I find you're condemning him to be just a bit premature. Guy has his whole life and career in front of him.

You don't have to sell it to me, if I had a vote I'd approve it as there's no collusion involved.

I'm not going to pretend that this guy is much of a prospect though. He's barely worth a roster spot on a rebuilding team and not worth one on a contender imo.

Scrutinizing trades is all part of the fun.
Title: Re: Vegas & Sharks trade
Post by: Jonathan on November 01, 2017, 06:17:20 PM
You don't have to sell it to me, if I had a vote I'd approve it as there's no collusion involved.

I'm not going to pretend that this guy is much of a prospect though. He's barely worth a roster spot on a rebuilding team and not worth one on a contender imo.

Scrutinizing trades is all part of the fun.
this


 :iatp:
Title: Re: Vegas & Sharks trade
Post by: PsychoticPondGoons on November 05, 2017, 08:50:46 AM
I'm not seeing a lot of :TC: members rushing to vote on this trade.
Title: Re: Vegas & Sharks trade
Post by: izaman3 on November 05, 2017, 03:58:28 PM
 :iatp:
Title: Re: Vegas & Sharks trade
Post by: dickiedunn on November 06, 2017, 12:22:58 PM
One owner is depleting another of their assets. The well will run dry if it hasn't already.
Approve, but it would be wise for the owner of Vegas and Tampa to look for other teams to trade with.
Title: Re: Vegas & Sharks trade
Post by: Daddy on November 06, 2017, 05:58:11 PM
One owner is depleting another of their assets. The well will run dry if it hasn't already.
Approve, but it would be wise for the owner of Vegas and Tampa to look for other teams to trade with.
You mean like
Ottawa   http://www.profsl.com/smf/index.php?topic=311718.msg1290795#new

Jersey http://www.profsl.com/smf/index.php?topic=310338.msg1287149#new

Toronto
http://www.profsl.com/smf/index.php?topic=310342.msg1287148#new

Toronto part deux http://www.profsl.com/smf/index.php?topic=310342.msg1287148#new

Jersey part deux http://www.profsl.com/smf/index.php?topic=306460.msg1276891#new

Toronto part III ( I must be depleting this guy)
http://www.profsl.com/smf/index.php?topic=308908.10

Detroit
http://www.profsl.com/smf/index.php?topic=306456.msg1276891#new

Detroit part deux
http://www.profsl.com/smf/index.php?topic=302297.msg1265894#new

This is just an example, there are many more, and what's crazy is I see even more Wild/Shark trades with team's other than Tampa/Vegas.

I appreciate the approves, but if you feel it shouldn't be approved then veto. I would appreciate the veto based on hockey merit, or approve based off the same.

No offense  :toast:
Title: Re: Vegas & Sharks trade
Post by: Jonathan on November 06, 2017, 06:23:42 PM
tick tock, tick tock
Title: Re: Vegas & Sharks trade
Post by: halo99 on November 07, 2017, 01:09:26 PM
Sharks feeding off of a couple of corpses?

Nah that doesn't happen.

It's a money league and as long as everyone is making a move to win now or in the future I don't think anyone would ever have a problem with a trade.

Some of these trades baffle me though because there doesn't seem to be any pattern as to wanting to win now or in the future. It's just essentially a trade to make a trade without some kind of rhyme or reason to it.

If we can get everyone down to one team I think that would be helpful. Hopefully in the future that will happen. 

 
Title: Re: Vegas & Sharks trade
Post by: Daddy on November 07, 2017, 01:53:56 PM
Sharks feeding off of a couple of corpses?

Nah that doesn't happen.

It's a money league and as long as everyone is making a move to win now or in the future I don't think anyone would ever have a problem with a trade.

Some of these trades baffle me though because there doesn't seem to be any pattern as to wanting to win now or in the future. It's just essentially a trade to make a trade without some kind of rhyme or reason to it.

If we can get everyone down to one team I think that would be helpful. Hopefully in the future that will happen.

I would agree to that.

We have to have owners willing to sell  :rofl:

I would sell Tampa but we still have a 3 team owner, a great owner btw. Whenever he comes down to 2 team's, other 2 team ownership may start selling.

When active guys have 4 team's or more between them, you will see more trades between certain guys.

I didnt realize i had made 3 trades with Blkhwkfn ( just Toronto) this year, and we've made probably twice that many total because he owns 3 team's and is active.

I've got 2 team's barely over .500, if I'm a shark then it must be the one you find at PetSmart. It's just trading. I've seen this same kind of talk in many leagues over the years. Wrongfully.

Nobody can accurately predict winners of trades without 4 years to look back on them, people who get 33% correct aren't on profsl.
Title: Re: Vegas & Sharks trade
Post by: blkhwkfn on November 07, 2017, 07:12:49 PM
Get off me already. why is it that when there is some trade issue my having 3 franchises comes up in conversation as if that's why bad trades are made? Plus I wasn't even part of this trade that was made on this thread. Its just mindless talk move on, I have owned CBJ for less than a year. I really even question myself as to why I am replying to this. I have no point because there is no point to the comment. These little trades don't amuse you? go watch TV or walk the dog, or ask for a new rule where better more entertaining trades are made where sparklers and whistles go off. BLK out
Title: Re: Vegas & Sharks trade
Post by: Burkes Boys on November 07, 2017, 11:38:45 PM
:iatp: If SJ wants to deal regularly with TB & Vegas, that's their right. But yeah, Sharks looking anemic these days.
Title: Re: Vegas & Sharks trade
Post by: Daddy on November 16, 2017, 04:41:37 AM
?????
Title: Re: Vegas & Sharks trade
Post by: jojowalkwalk on November 16, 2017, 02:09:02 PM
Why has it  taken over 2 weeks to process  this trade? This is not acceptable in a money league. I don't know what the problem is. Why does it always seem to be a problem with trades that Tampa and Vegas make? Be it with  San Jose, or Minnesota or whoever. In a money league  this trade needs to be taken care of asap
Title: Re: Vegas & Sharks trade
Post by: halo99 on November 16, 2017, 03:53:18 PM
Why has it  taken over 2 weeks to process  this trade? This is not acceptable in a money league. I don't know what the problem is. Why does it always seem to be a problem with trades that Tampa and Vegas make? Be it with  San Jose, or Minnesota or whoever. In a money league  this trade needs to be taken care of asap

Lighten up

I'm sure it's a bit whelming for one guy to have to do all the work in a 31 team league that is active. If you have things going on in your life you have to prioritize. PPG probably needs an assistant to help carry the load.

Hockeygoon I'm looking at you lol.

Title: Re: Vegas & Sharks trade
Post by: hockeygoon33 on November 16, 2017, 04:03:21 PM
Lighten up

I'm sure it's a bit whelming for one guy to have to do all the work in a 31 team league that is active. If you have things going on in your life you have to prioritize. PPG probably needs an assistant to help carry the load.

Hockeygoon I'm looking at you lol.



Lol. Thanks Halo99!! I've already reached out to PPG and expressed my interest in helping out wherever I can.
Title: Re: Vegas & Sharks trade
Post by: izaman3 on November 16, 2017, 04:20:16 PM
Lighten up

I'm sure it's a bit whelming for one guy to have to do all the work in a 31 team league that is active. If you have things going on in your life you have to prioritize. PPG probably needs an assistant to help carry the load.

Hockeygoon I'm looking at you lol.

If only there were two commissioners... you know someone to help lead...someone who has been with the league for a long time and helped grow it to the excellent condition and ownership group we have today. Someone to quiet the media help with the PR issues...hmmmm PR issues...PR... Where is PR????????????  :taco: :rofl: :rofl: :taco:
Title: Re: Vegas & Sharks trade
Post by: blkhwkfn on November 16, 2017, 08:28:32 PM
This trade has very little to no impact for either team in the now. I could understand being a bit salty if this had significant NHL players involved, however that's not the case. Sometimes real life is a bit more important than Fantasy. Money or Not. I don't always agree with some decisions but This league and its commissioners (even Hockeygoon) are still tops in my book. My advice be patient.
Title: Re: Vegas & Sharks trade
Post by: jojowalkwalk on November 16, 2017, 10:46:43 PM
This trade has very little to no impact for either team in the now. I could understand being a bit salty if this had significant NHL players involved, however that's not the case. Sometimes real life is a bit more important than Fantasy. Money or Not. I don't always agree with some decisions but This league and its commissioners (even Hockeygoon) are still tops in my book. My advice be patient.
It should'nt matter. This trade should've been processed. Why it is'nt, I don't know. Every single trade in a money league should be processed within 48 hours, with no exception.
Title: Re: Vegas & Sharks trade
Post by: Daddy on November 16, 2017, 11:51:51 PM
It should'nt matter. This trade should've been processed. Why it is'nt, I don't know. Every single trade in a money league should be processed within 48 hours, with no exception.
That's not always possible realistically.
 
Mods don't get paid, have real lives including jobs, and this stuff can take a long time to do, especially in an active league.

Did I mention mods are volunteering time and dont get paid.

I'm sure we have lots of people who would be happy to help during lean times. This league is usually run pretty well, things happen sometimes.

It gets a little dicey with scoring being impacted, we want an authentic and fair league, that said, life happens.
Title: Re: Vegas & Sharks trade
Post by: PsychoticPondGoons on November 17, 2017, 04:25:05 PM
Vegas sends:
G Hunter Miska, $0.2m (2017-2019)
LW Rudolfs Balcers, $0.4m (2017-2019)

San Jose sends:
LW - Daniel Zaar, $0.2m (2016-2018)
LW - Justin Bailey (2013: 2/52 - 29 Games)  GP updated Feb26, 2017
D - Jonas Siegenthaler (2015: 2/57 - 0 Games)


Vegas cashes in on a young Goalie on a beautiful contract by acquiring more milr talent. We honestly believe we sold low, but before the recent call up Miska's value was even more limited across FNHL.

If Miska gets a #1 Goalie gig, I will kick myself, but I see him as a backup. I could be wrong. We like both the milr guys as assets moving forward. We are releasing Zarr as soon as the deal goes final (If approved by league)

Ination to confirm.



Fnxtd
Title: Re: Vegas & Sharks trade
Post by: PsychoticPondGoons on November 17, 2017, 11:11:46 PM
Vegas sends:
G Hunter Miska, $0.2m (2017-2019)
LW Rudolfs Balcers, $0.4m (2017-2019)

San Jose sends:
LW - Daniel Zaar, $0.2m (2016-2018)
LW - Justin Bailey (2013: 2/52 - 29 Games)  GP updated Feb26, 2017
D - Jonas Siegenthaler (2015: 2/57 - 0 Games)


Vegas cashes in on a young Goalie on a beautiful contract by acquiring more milr talent. We honestly believe we sold low, but before the recent call up Miska's value was even more limited across FNHL.

If Miska gets a #1 Goalie gig, I will kick myself, but I see him as a backup. I could be wrong. We like both the milr guys as assets moving forward. We are releasing Zarr as soon as the deal goes final (If approved by league)

Ination to confirm.



Vegas warning 1 of 1, then you lose the next minor league player you activate without an available roster spot.

When a trade has not been processed, don't assume you can just move a guy with a contract into the MiLR without a penalty. Balcers, Rudolfs stashed in VGK MiLR while prospect Hayden was active.
Title: Re: Vegas & Sharks trade
Post by: PsychoticPondGoons on November 17, 2017, 11:29:31 PM
Vegas sends:
G Hunter Miska, $0.2m (2017-2019)
LW Rudolfs Balcers, $0.4m (2017-2019)

San Jose sends:
LW - Daniel Zaar, $0.2m (2016-2018)
LW - Justin Bailey (2013: 2/52 - 29 Games)  GP updated Feb26, 2017
D - Jonas Siegenthaler (2015: 2/57 - 0 Games)


Vegas cashes in on a young Goalie on a beautiful contract by acquiring more milr talent. We honestly believe we sold low, but before the recent call up Miska's value was even more limited across FNHL.

If Miska gets a #1 Goalie gig, I will kick myself, but I see him as a backup. I could be wrong. We like both the milr guys as assets moving forward. We are releasing Zarr as soon as the deal goes final (If approved by league)

Ination to confirm.

SJ & VGK done