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Re: Tiers Remodeled
« Reply #60 on: March 15, 2010, 08:00:20 PM »
In 2011, the league will feature variable salary caps for all teams based on the three-year average (2008-2010) payroll (as of beginning of playing season) + $20m.  The 2009 and 2010 seasons will be numbers from Franchise GM that we have whereas 2008 will be the actual payroll number for the 2008 teams.

Use those cap numbers, movement between cap values would be based on the following formula.

Cap ranking (CAPR) - 1st for highest cap, 30th for lowest from above list
Standings (STAND) - 1st for WS champ, 9th for best team out of playoffs, 30th for worst team in MLB

The new cap ranking is then hooked up with the new 3-year average + $20m.  This gives the weighting 25% to performance and 75% to current market status.

At the end of each season, we will combine how the team did (STAND) with their existing cap ranking (CAPR) to determine the value that season will have on their future cap numbers (did they gain or lose cap?).  Lets call that RETURN.

RETURN[YEAR] = Max(0.8CAPR(YEAR),Min(1.2CAPR(YEAR),3*CAPR(YEAR) + STAND(YEAR))

The CAPR and STAND values are both payroll numbers using the CAPR and STAND rankings on the actual MLB payroll averages (+$20m).

To calculate a team's salary cap in any season, we take the simple average of their past three seasons return, skipping the most recent (so we can always forecast one extra into the future):

CAP[2011] = AVERAGE(RETURN[2007] + RETURN[2008] + RETURN[2009])

In the absence of Franchise GM for the 2007 and 2008 seasons, the actual payroll and standings rankings are used.

<div id=example>Example
New York Mets Franchise GM Standing 2007-2009: 10th, 10th, 30th
finish example...
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May I suggest that STAND is calculated as the difference between actual team performance vs MLBFB performance. Do we really want to award the Yankees if they win WS in real life but finishes 3rd in MLBFB?
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Re: Tiers Remodeled
« Reply #61 on: March 15, 2010, 09:26:36 PM »
Sounds like a decent idea short term, but would probably cause problems over time.  As we diverge from MLB, in a few years our Yankees might be a middle of the road payroll team...
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Re: Tiers Remodeled
« Reply #62 on: March 16, 2010, 09:21:11 AM »
Sounds like a decent idea short term, but would probably cause problems over time.  As we diverge from MLB, in a few years our Yankees might be a middle of the road payroll team...

The standing is solely based on performance in Franchise GM.  The Yankees will still be the big market team on the block, but if they started losing big time then they could fall to middle of the road.
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Re: Tiers Remodeled
« Reply #63 on: March 16, 2010, 04:35:53 PM »
FYI, the 2009 caps were not loaded in properly causing the numbers to skew a bit for the large market teams.  The Yankees would still drop, but to $205m, not $200m in 2010.  With that point made, do you want to make it a rule of the lesser of 20% and $20m?  Having more than a $20m swing in one year could be a bit much. :thumbsup:
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« Reply #64 on: March 16, 2010, 08:14:36 PM »
Sounds fine to me

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« Reply #65 on: March 16, 2010, 08:30:47 PM »
I need to be paying more attention to this than I have been...I will get caught up on the thread shortly but I will say that for the NY Mets franchise and the anvil that is going to get dropped on us....The revenue sharing that I have been paying should be severely reduced (to the point of being removed). If the NY Yanks are the top tier at $220M and we are reduced to $160M but they are tier 1 and we are still tier 2 then that is not right. The revenue sharing would have to be recalculated to what the median salary is and the Yanks are paying to a % if that makes sense. and the Mets would pay a %. I am not entirely certain, I will have to go back and look but I don't think that is how it is set up right now.
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Re: Tiers Remodeled
« Reply #66 on: March 17, 2010, 08:56:54 AM »
I need to be paying more attention to this than I have been...I will get caught up on the thread shortly but I will say that for the NY Mets franchise and the anvil that is going to get dropped on us....The revenue sharing that I have been paying should be severely reduced (to the point of being removed). If the NY Yanks are the top tier at $220M and we are reduced to $160M but they are tier 1 and we are still tier 2 then that is not right. The revenue sharing would have to be recalculated to what the median salary is and the Yanks are paying to a % if that makes sense. and the Mets would pay a %. I am not entirely certain, I will have to go back and look but I don't think that is how it is set up right now.

Todd, I can assure you that this will be passed and reform to revenue sharing will follow.  This is why I kept the RS review thread in the RC board all along. 
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« Reply #67 on: March 17, 2010, 06:07:26 PM »
Ok, I'm on board, permitted we reform revenue sharing immediately after.
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Re: Tiers Remodeled
« Reply #68 on: March 17, 2010, 06:37:08 PM »
Ok, I'm on board, permitted we reform revenue sharing immediately after.

Okay, this one is going to pass... I'll work out the official language this week.  :thumbsup:  I already have the revenue sharing review thread open at the RC.  We need to take care of that and the entry draft process (Chad voted).
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Re: Tiers Remodeled
« Reply #69 on: March 17, 2010, 07:20:43 PM »
Team pages for the RC, Phillies, Mets, Yankees, Mariners, Reds, and A's have been updated to reflect the new salary cap ruling.
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