2017 League Discussion, Rule Changes

[Maydab23]

I hate the idea of doubling J2 bids. Say someone works during the day and does not have access as soon as a player signs. So say a Kevin Maitan or Eloy Jimenez signs and someone bids 3m while I'm at work, then I can't bid. That's not right. The top players aren't even discovered. Everyone knows who they are so the first person to place a bid shouldn't necessarily get the player. I think every team should be able to bid if they feel free to.

A few things

1) most of the top J2s are signed before the signing period opens up
2) I live in Australia. Sometimes I work nights and weekends. Sometimes not. Sometimes I'm traveling. I manage okay. You can't appease everyone because this league is filled with people from all different situations. Maybe this time a guy signs while you're online and I'm at work. Maybe next time it will be the opposite.
3) Every year in this league when the J2 signing period opens up there are dozens of top guys already signed in real life and ready to be bid on in AFB. Usually, a week later there are still ones being posted. Not everybody gets bid on instantly and snatched up. We have rules already to ensure this. This allows everybody the opportunity to open bids on top J2s.

[J-Nels]

Hi all,

I am new to the league and am learning my way through these processes and all. I have a few things that I would like to propose for future seasons to make the league a little more competitive and realistic;

1. waiver claims should be submitted in private. this would keep trolls from not jumping on claims just because others are. Not saying its happening but it could. Also, this would not inflate the value of the player to other claimers for purpose of trade. Seems odd a lot of these waiver players are not being shopped prior to being traded but that is a different conversation.

2. Extensions for FA needs an overhaul. Here are some options...maybe discussion points;
A. To be treated like Football's Franchise tags (1 year @ top 5 avg salary, each following year is a 25% increase)
B. extension must be offered after year three of arb within extension matrix. non-arb must be extended before FA season at extension matrix amount per their percentile.
C. Top 2 percentile in past 2 years decline extensions to make more in FA market. allows a bidding war with all teams.
D. extensions must escalate each season. for example 10% additional per year. (18.9M year one, 20.8 year two, 22.9 year three, ect.)

3. FA and International signing to be private. Teams should not know how much other's are bidding...maybe only allowed to know what place they are in or just put your best offer in and let the dice fall as they may!

These may cause the commish more work which I really don't want to do; however, I'm trying to think of ways to make the league more competitive and allow teams multiple ways to build or potentially ruin their franchises. If nothing else, maybe its fun discussion.

Chime in and let's hear your opinions.
-Jeff

[Maydab23]

Hi all,

I am new to the league and am learning my way through these processes and all. I have a few things that I would like to propose for future seasons to make the league a little more competitive and realistic;

1. waiver claims should be submitted in private. this would keep trolls from not jumping on claims just because others are. Not saying its happening but it could. Also, this would not inflate the value of the player to other claimers for purpose of trade. Seems odd a lot of these waiver players are not being shopped prior to being traded but that is a different conversation.

2. Extensions for FA needs an overhaul. Here are some options...maybe discussion points;
A. To be treated like Football's Franchise tags (1 year @ top 5 avg salary, each following year is a 25% increase)
B. extension must be offered after year three of arb within extension matrix. non-arb must be extended before FA season at extension matrix amount per their percentile.
C. Top 2 percentile in past 2 years decline extensions to make more in FA market. allows a bidding war with all teams.
D. extensions must escalate each season. for example 10% additional per year. (18.9M year one, 20.8 year two, 22.9 year three, ect.)

3. FA and International signing to be private. Teams should not know how much other's are bidding...maybe only allowed to know what place they are in or just put your best offer in and let the dice fall as they may!

These may cause the commish more work which I really don't want to do; however, I'm trying to think of ways to make the league more competitive and allow teams multiple ways to build or potentially ruin their franchises. If nothing else, maybe its fun discussion.

Chime in and let's hear your opinions.
-Jeff

Jeff, thanks for offering some input and suggestions!

Doing free agency/waiver claims/J2 etc via private bidding is something we can discuss implementing at least in part if enough owners want it. A couple issues would be how to implement it and the fact that we might see some pretty crazy contracts. Way too low or way too high. Especially when you factor in new owners who are not used to how much is normally the going price for certain types of players. Having it open at least makes it clear that that player is getting paid at market value.

Doing different values for each year would make things a little more complicated but doable still. I can’t say I love all of the extension ideas but I do agree that we need to revisit the extension figures for next year.

[J-Nels]

Completely understand...again I’m new to the league and just seeing a few areas of possible improvement. I would love to discuss these areas in the next owners meeting

The biggest for me is FA and extensions. Seems crazy Bryce Harper can be extended for 18-19M for 5 years. Market would likely be 25-30M for a team with cap space. And FA being private could get crazy highs and lows but that would be dictated by owners...sort of like real MLB. There are alternatives and discussion points we can get into later.

Thanks for the consideration.

[Jonathan]

Hi all,

I am new to the league and am learning my way through these processes and all. I have a few things that I would like to propose for future seasons to make the league a little more competitive and realistic;

1. waiver claims should be submitted in private. this would keep trolls from not jumping on claims just because others are. Not saying its happening but it could. Also, this would not inflate the value of the player to other claimers for purpose of trade. Seems odd a lot of these waiver players are not being shopped prior to being traded but that is a different conversation.

2. Extensions for FA needs an overhaul. Here are some options...maybe discussion points;
A. To be treated like Football's Franchise tags (1 year @ top 5 avg salary, each following year is a 25% increase)
B. extension must be offered after year three of arb within extension matrix. non-arb must be extended before FA season at extension matrix amount per their percentile.
C. Top 2 percentile in past 2 years decline extensions to make more in FA market. allows a bidding war with all teams.
D. extensions must escalate each season. for example 10% additional per year. (18.9M year one, 20.8 year two, 22.9 year three, ect.)

3. FA and International signing to be private. Teams should not know how much other's are bidding...maybe only allowed to know what place they are in or just put your best offer in and let the dice fall as they may!

These may cause the commish more work which I really don't want to do; however, I'm trying to think of ways to make the league more competitive and allow teams multiple ways to build or potentially ruin their franchises. If nothing else, maybe its fun discussion.

Chime in and let's hear your opinions.
-Jeff

I am a new owner, so I will chime in having been in deep leagues like this.

1. If this was able to be done on fantrax, that would be something that may be of interest. Otherwise, there is no real good way to do it. I'm not a big fan of sending a PM type of situation, but I'd do it if that is what everyone wants.

2. I was actually surprised that extensions exist here. I was just expecting 6 yrs control, then fight for them in FA type of settings

3. GM's are better at piggybacking than actually doing work to find guys. This is proven 100x over. I get the frustration, but there is no way around it. In a 30 team league with 200 minor spots, you're gonna have to fight for everything.