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DISCUSSION: Blocked Shot Stat?
« on: April 16, 2019, 04:15:00 PM »
Gents, starting this discussion to see opinions on whether we want to use Blocked Shot as a FNHL stat in the future.

Let's hear your opinions and if there's enough interest, we put 'er on the table for a good ol' vote.
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Re: DISCUSSION: Blocked Shot Stat?
« Reply #1 on: April 16, 2019, 04:29:06 PM »
I could go either way, but it would definitely make some shutdown d-men and grinding forwards more worth rostering. It is also a valuable contribution to an NHL teams play. Look at Marner's two late blocked shots at the end of the game yesterday, give me those points! lol
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Re: DISCUSSION: Blocked Shot Stat?
« Reply #2 on: April 16, 2019, 07:48:16 PM »
What would be a blocked shots value?  Hypothetically
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Re: DISCUSSION: Blocked Shot Stat?
« Reply #3 on: April 16, 2019, 11:45:57 PM »
What would be a blocked shots value?  Hypothetically

I'd say given these values
Shots-on-Goal: 0.25
Hits per game: 0.25

Blocked Shot should be the same 0.25 to keep it simple.
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Re: DISCUSSION: Blocked Shot Stat?
« Reply #4 on: April 17, 2019, 12:05:17 AM »
I'd say given these values
Shots-on-Goal: 0.25
Hits per game: 0.25

Blocked Shot should be the same 0.25 to keep it simple.

That adds quite a lot of points 35 pts per year for the top 50 bs blueliners alone - 1/3 of those guys are currently on the cheap. I don’t like that. I would say it helps add value to the Defencemen overall which is needed.

Hmmm



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Re: DISCUSSION: Blocked Shot Stat?
« Reply #5 on: April 17, 2019, 12:40:46 AM »
That adds quite a lot of points 35 pts per year for the top 50 bs blueliners alone - 1/3 of those guys are currently on the cheap. I don’t like that. I would say it helps add value to the Defencemen overall which is needed.

Hmmm

Hmmm, to knock down the value of a Blocked Shot stat to 0.15 pts per, wed be looking at a modest 21pts bump up per yr.

It mainly adds value to 3rd 4th liners as well as 2nd & 3rd Blueliner pairings.
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Re: DISCUSSION: Blocked Shot Stat?
« Reply #6 on: April 17, 2019, 02:10:18 AM »
Personally, I'm not interested in adding the Blocked Shots category.
There's no need. FNHL scoring cats are good, as is.

But if the majority of owners want it, I would suggest implementing 2yrs out give it impacts the value of players and their extensions.
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Re: DISCUSSION: Blocked Shot Stat?
« Reply #7 on: April 17, 2019, 05:38:06 PM »
But if the majority of owners want it, I would suggest implementing 2yrs out give it impacts the value of players and their extensions.

I agree on that point, smart
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Re: DISCUSSION: Blocked Shot Stat?
« Reply #8 on: April 17, 2019, 05:42:00 PM »
It mainly adds value to 3rd 4th liners as well as 2nd & 3rd Blueliner pairings.

I agree low tier defensive players need the bump and it’s a common added cat in other leagues

I think I would vote yes at .15 for 20-21 season... probably still need to sleep on it more but I like the idea
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Re: DISCUSSION: Blocked Shot Stat?
« Reply #9 on: April 17, 2019, 09:23:01 PM »
I for one do not see added value in including the Blocked Shots category. This league seems to be running well and introducing a new scoring category could impact teams and strategies even if it will not be implemented immediately. There is no urgent need for Blocked Shots so I would not be in favor of added it. Thanks.
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