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VETO (by Trade Committee) - Predators and Blues Trade
« on: September 20, 2013, 12:20:18 AM »
:NAS: and :STL-NHL: have agreed to the following trade

:NAS: trades

Pekka Rinne, $5.2m (2013-2014)

:STL-NHL: trades

Jaden Schwartz, $2.0m (2014-15-EL)
Carlo Colaiacovo, $2.5m (2014-2015)
Max Domi (2013: 1/12 - 0 Games)
Josh Leivo (2011: 3/86 - 0 Games)


The Predators do this trade since they are in rebuilding mode and get 1 young skater with potential and in the NHL and 2 young specs that have a lot of potential as well. Carlo was a throw in to make the salaries work.

I know Rinne is a stud and was considering extending him but decided to trade him with him being over 30 and signing him for another 4 years. Therefore since this team is in rebuild mode I needed to go younger and add multiple young skaters.


Ripper to confirm trade   
« Last Edit: December 02, 2013, 01:09:10 PM by PigsRule »
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Re: Predators and Blues Trade
« Reply #1 on: September 20, 2013, 12:25:14 AM »
I was reluctant to trade Domi but he needed to be included to make this deal happen. Bishop is on the block so I wanted to land a top goalie.

Good luck in the rebuild Nashville, you have some really nice pieces.

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Re: Predators and Blues Trade
« Reply #2 on: September 20, 2013, 10:05:50 AM »
Men. You know I have a lot of love for you both but uuuuuuhm, this deal hurts :NAS: bigtime in a goalie starved league.

Three reasons:
1 - :NAS: moving Rinne before confirming with 100% certainty Karri Ramo is a starter is dangerous for the Predators franchise losing a critical, not key, but ultra critical player in their line-up.

2 - The return does not equal to a Pekka Rinne. Colaiacovo isn't signed anywhere in the NHL and likely would've been an inexpensive FA if he was a free agent. Max Domi is good but not worth 1/4th of Rinne. Jaden is potenitally worth 1/4 of a Pekka.

3. Finally the Blues already have starting goalies Bishop,Halak and starter in waiting Jake Allen so it's not like :NAS: needs to charitably give away Rinne.

This deal hurts the :NAS: franchise so I vote No and hope the teams involved understand this is not good for the league.

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Re: Predators and Blues Trade
« Reply #3 on: September 21, 2013, 02:42:39 PM »
this trade also needs more TC votes.

PM sent... not really what should be done but i've done it. guys, just vote.
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Re: Predators and Blues Trade
« Reply #4 on: September 21, 2013, 02:48:11 PM »
:veto:

because this trade removes Nashville's best asset by a longshot.
in fact, goalies score x2 if not x3 more than a top skater.
Nashville's backup Ramo has not trackrecord of any sort other than in the KHL which has no impact on this league's scoring system.

Question: can Nashville explain how removing Rinne helps their team in a rebuild other than clear salary cap?
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Re: Predators and Blues Trade
« Reply #5 on: September 21, 2013, 04:04:49 PM »
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Sorry guys but more needs to come back for Rinne.
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Re: Predators and Blues Trade
« Reply #6 on: September 21, 2013, 05:34:32 PM »
I think any deal that as a #1 goalie should include at least 2 players in return that will give you 2 fpts or more per game witch in this case only time would give us the true value of those prospect .

Bottom line Rinne for no guarantee:veto:

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Re: Predators and Blues Trade
« Reply #7 on: September 21, 2013, 09:41:53 PM »
sorry I have to veto too not enough for a top starter...
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Re: Predators and Blues Trade
« Reply #8 on: September 22, 2013, 07:55:22 AM »
No Problem, I want it to be fair as well. Maybe if I work a goalie in it will be approved?
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Re: Predators and Blues Trade
« Reply #9 on: September 22, 2013, 11:05:34 AM »
No Problem, I want it to be fair as well. Maybe if I work a goalie in it will be approved?


Absolutely.

Pl feel free to post a new or reworked trade anytime before or after the Transaction Freeze period Sept 25-Oct2.

Simply start a new thread. :toast:
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