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Re: Ray's and Blue Jays trade (READ)
« Reply #10 on: July 12, 2019, 04:17:17 AM »
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Re: Ray's and Blue Jays trade (READ)
« Reply #11 on: July 12, 2019, 08:59:07 AM »
Wow, this is interesting. Can I filter into this discussion? My 2 cents worth, after looking at both team rosters: Toronto is 11-4 in the East and I would say has a pretty nice team going forward without this trade, possible league championship. Tampa Bay is 8-7 in the East and a playoff bound team. Why in the hell would Tampa Bay trade the AL most likely to be MVP Trout? I also think that this league ruling on cash bonus and cash exchange is confusing and needs to be altered or eliminated to make this league a more simple dynasty salary cap league. Sorry, that part is what is confusing to me and I think that Cliff knows best. If I were still eligible to be on trade committee I would  :veto: this trade myself.
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Re: Ray's and Blue Jays trade (READ)
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Re: Ray's and Blue Jays trade (READ)
« Reply #13 on: July 12, 2019, 01:46:36 PM »
If this makes it easier to see, here is a simplified version with Cliff's contract layout:

Toronto Trades:
1B Mancini, Trey, $0.3m (P-2020)   
SP Weaver, Luke, $0.3m (P-2021)   
2B Urias, Luis, $0.3m (P-n/a)   
OF Tucker, Kyle, $0.3m (P-n/a)   
OF Sanchez, Jesus, $0.3m (P-n/a)
SP Allen, Logan, $0.3m (P-n/a)   
SP Sanchez, Sixto, $0.3m (P-n/a)

Tampa Trades:
C Garver, Mitch, $0.3m (P-n/a)   
OF Trout, Mike, $10m (2019)   
SS Lindor, Francisco, $0.3m (P-'19)   
RP Treinen, Blake, $1.1m (2019)   
RP Vasquez, Felipe, $6m (2021)   
+ $17.1m cash from TB to TOR 2019
+ $5m cash from TB to TOR in 2020
+ $5m cash from TB to TOR in 2021



I mean, if you just want a simple dynasty league, why not just join a league on Yahoo or ESPN?
It's tough to transition a league that was set up as a more complex salary cap league to change it to a simplified version league, when there are existing contracts and cash exchanges, etc. already in place.
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Re: Tampa Bay/Toronto
« Reply #14 on: July 13, 2019, 03:13:25 AM »
 :judge: fantrax & SS   .....this one trade was the most difficult one to execute in 2019. Even so I approved the trade, this one trade should never happened and this is on record. First off, after executing trade at fantrax, I realized that 3 roster players for Toronto ended on minors in the form of OF Trout, RP Vasquez & RP Treinen. I then overturned the trade, notifying Toronto GM that further moves would have to be made. He complied by promoting 3 minors who he was trading and demoting to eligible players from roster to minors. This worked out and the trade was executed. However, on the side of Tampa Bay, I then realized that their roster after the trade had only 2 RP and for a legal roster lineup you need 3 RP starting. It just so happened, Tampa Bay had one (1) RP in minors and the move was made to promote same so Tampa Bay would have a legal lineup to compete. When I talk about Just for the sake of it, I am talking about making unnecessary moves. The Tampa Bay GM has been involved in 12 trades in 2019 and that will not happen again as in 2020 a lock on trades made by team GM will be limited.  Also, for the record, a lock will be forced on teams making moves.
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