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Fantasy Leagues => Dynasty NHL => NHL Leagues => Dynasty NHL: Archive => Topic started by: Rob on October 28, 2020, 10:26:47 AM
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When we resolved to change the extension rules, we had to eliminate in-season extensions that would be based on an incomplete season. We decided to limit all extensions to the extension period we've always used for post-season transactions - from the end of our season through the end of June (start of entry draft).
It's been pointed out that that deadline is arbitrary and we could just use the entire offseason as our extension period, and it won't affect the new extension rules in the least.
Any opposition to updating this?
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:TOR-NHL: I think it would make it easier If we had more time to decide If we keep, trade or drop players, especially borderline players.
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This is a weird year.
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That's fine with me.
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Fine with the offseason :thumbsup:
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the dead line should be the start of FA
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the dead line should be the start of FA
What's the reasoning? I can't think of a reason not to allow extensions all offseason.
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When we resolved to change the extension rules, we had to eliminate in-season extensions that would be based on an incomplete season. We decided to limit all extensions to the extension period we've always used for post-season transactions - from the end of our season through the end of June (start of entry draft).
It's been pointed out that that deadline is arbitrary and we could just use the entire offseason as our extension period, and it won't affect the new extension rules in the least.
Any opposition to updating this?
Would this take effect this year and allow us to sign players we've already let go to FA?
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Would this take effect this year and allow us to sign players we've already let go to FA?
I don't see why we wouldn't do it immediately. If you have dropped players it wouldn't be because you couldn't re-sign them - Your RFA's would still need to be extended prior to the draft - the original extension deadline would still exist for RFA's - after which they would be removed from your roster if unsigned.
This rule change would only apply to players with existing contracts who you would want to re-sign for additional years - and as per the rules you can't extend at a lower price - so this rule would not effect players you've already dropped.
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What's the reasoning? I can't think of a reason not to allow extensions all offseason.
so people cant keep there player from FA until most people have spent their cap and filled there roster spaces and then not sign them, send them to FA and have a better chance of resigning them cheaper in FA because of less competition
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so people cant keep there player from FA until most people have spent their cap and filled there roster spaces and then not sign them, send them to FA and have a better chance of resigning them cheaper in FA because of less competition
I don't see that as an issue. First off - the player is going to be signed to a contract, they won't be an RFA. So dropping them to FA will cost the team 66% of the contract. They'd then need to bid on the player and risk losing. And hope they win at less than 33% of the original contract - else they'll end up spending more.
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I don't see that as an issue. First off - the player is going to be signed to a contract, they won't be an RFA. So dropping them to FA will cost the team 66% of the contract. They'd then need to bid on the player and risk losing. And hope they win at less than 33% of the original contract - else they'll end up spending more.
I think he was thinking a team could keep a player as an RFA or have rights to a player with no contract after Free agency starts and then "release" the player once other teams don't have any money.
Basically what you are proposing is that once a season ends any player with a contract that is ending becomes an RFA. RFA's need to be resigned by the extension deadline before the draft. After that point we would still allow players with existing contracts to be signed to extensions (Contract extensions at least the same as existing contract value) up to the start of the new season.
I'm fine with allowing players with existing contracts to be extended for the entire length of the offseason.
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I think he was thinking a team could keep a player as an RFA or have rights to a player with no contract after Free agency starts and then "release" the player once other teams don't have any money.
Basically what you are proposing is that once a season ends any player with a contract that is ending becomes an RFA. RFA's need to be resigned by the extension deadline before the draft. After that point we would still allow players with existing contracts to be signed to extensions (Contract extensions at least the same as existing contract value) up to the start of the new season.
I'm fine with allowing players with existing contracts to be extended for the entire length of the offseason.
Precisely. I'm sorry I didn't word this as succinctly and neglected to mention the RFA portion in my original post.
We'd effectively have 2 extension deadlines. RFA extension deadline as normal (end of June), after which, teams can still renew existing contracts up until the season starts.
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deleted this
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Precisely. I'm sorry I didn't word this as succinctly and neglected to mention the RFA portion in my original post.
We'd effectively have 2 extension deadlines. RFA extension deadline as normal (end of June), after which, teams can still renew existing contracts up until the season starts.
ok so we are talking about players under contract still and resigning them early
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ok so we are talking about players under contract still and resigning them early
Exactly - sorry for the confusion. You won't have the option to keep unsigned players beyond the original deadline (June). So we're only talking about players under contract being re-signed early.
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Exactly - sorry for the confusion. You won't have the option to keep unsigned players beyond the original deadline (June). So we're only talking about players under contract being re-signed early.
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I think it's fine to allow extensions right up until the season starts.
Just no in-season extensions to take advantage of a slumping player or a guy who gets injured in game 1 and misses 30 games.
If you want to bet on a player out performing his current re-sign value, that's entirely up to you!
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I'll go with majority. Seems simple enough to contain it all to the offseason.
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I think it's fine to allow extensions right up until the season starts.
Just no in-season extensions to take advantage of a slumping player or a guy who gets injured in game 1 and misses 30 games.
If you want to bet on a player out performing his current re-sign value, that's entirely up to you!
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Seems like everyone's in agreement and I'm going to go ahead and update these rules. Here's the amended extension rules:
Extensions
Contract extensions may be offered for expiring contracts during the offseason "Extension Period" which is normally a 3 month period from when the NHL regular season ends in April until the entry draft is complete in June. The exact time-frame will be announced annually. Extension values are determined by looking up the player's fantasy points in both the current season and the prior season. The higher of these two values is multiplied by a static factor of $25K (EXCEPT FOR THE 19/20 SEASON WHICH IS MULTIPLIED BY $30K DUE TO THE COVID SHORTENED SEASON). The result is the players' extension value. Contract length follows the minimum/maximum rules stated above.
Extensions on non-expiring players are allowed during the entirety of the offseason.
NO EXTENSIONS ARE ALLOWED WHILE REGULAR SEASON PLAY IS ONGOING
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Looks good looks good
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Also just added this:
Extensions on non-expiring players must be equal to or greater than the value and length of the contract in force. You can't renew an existing contract for less than it's worth currently.
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Also just added this:
Extensions on non-expiring players must be equal to or greater than the value and length of the contract in force. You can't renew an existing contract for less than it's worth currently.
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(Thought that was always the case)
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(Thought that was always the case)
It always was, but I had deleted that line when we updated the extension rules, thinking it was inconsequential.
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Just to be clear - we can extend 2020-21 players right now (prior to the season) as long as they are re-signed to a higher value than their current contract, correct?
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Just to be clear - we can extend 2020-21 players right now (prior to the season) as long as they are re-signed to a higher value than their current contract, correct?
Yes sir
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Just to be clear - we can extend 2020-21 players right now (prior to the season) as long as they are re-signed to a higher value than their current contract, correct?
Yes sir
. Good to get clarification on that. Trying to keep up with the rules in DNHL. Whoooah!