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Re: Scoring Categories
« Reply #140 on: December 03, 2009, 11:53:45 AM »
That scoring system is way out of my league. I believe how you did it is the closest to what we are looking for. And if it was up to me, I dont know a person like you colby that finds info. and researches the info any better then you. So what I read on this Rules Committee Page is the best around for Fantasy Baseball!! And thats another reason, I really enjoy this league!  :thumbsup:

Thanks Chad.  I am looking to hear from M.J., Ben, and Jake.  I am going to try and get Roy here for the action too.
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Re: Scoring Categories
« Reply #141 on: December 03, 2009, 04:35:12 PM »
My issue may not be with defense for catchers after all.  I figured out why Mauer is less than Sandoval and Inge and V-Mart are rated the same.  There is no deduction for outs of any kind, or any measurement of how often a player gets a hit.  Just take a look at the AVG and OBP alongside the RC and PTS and you will see that OBP has little correlation.
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« Reply #142 on: December 03, 2009, 07:14:38 PM »
My issue may not be with defense for catchers after all.  I figured out why Mauer is less than Sandoval and Inge and V-Mart are rated the same.  There is no deduction for outs of any kind, or any measurement of how often a player gets a hit.  Just take a look at the AVG and OBP alongside the RC and PTS and you will see that OBP has little correlation.

Our stats are going to be comparable total RC rather than a ratio like RC/27 that would include how many outs a player makes.  If you look at Mauer's Points/Game in our system, he's rightfully the top catcher last season. 

With that said, there will undoubtedly be some discrepancies between the resulting rankings and what might have been expected - this is why I think it's really important we make a decision as soon as possible on passing the scoring system (something I tried to stress a while back).
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« Reply #143 on: December 03, 2009, 07:19:08 PM »
Our stats are going to be comparable total RC rather than a ratio like RC/27 that would include how many outs a player makes.  If you look at Mauer's Points/Game in our system, he's rightfully the top catcher last season. 

With that said, there will undoubtedly be some discrepancies between the resulting rankings and what might have been expected - this is why I think it's really important we make a decision as soon as possible on passing the scoring system (something I tried to stress a while back).

I would like to pass a scoring system by tomorrow if at all possible.  I am going to tweak it and see how the negative weighted inclusion of OUTS, STRIKEOUTS, and/or AB affects it. 
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« Reply #144 on: December 03, 2009, 07:25:54 PM »
If you're going to include one of those 3 as a negative, I'd suggest outs.
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Re: Scoring Categories
« Reply #145 on: December 03, 2009, 07:28:16 PM »
If you're going to include one of those 3 as a negative, I'd suggest outs.

Outs wasn't available, but I could substitute it by applying X * (H - AB).  BTW, I went through the stats, did just that, increased the other stats by 8.33% (testing Jamesian ratios now) and I noticed Games Played was given a weight of 5 points.  This would explain some discrepancies!
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Re: Scoring Categories
« Reply #146 on: December 03, 2009, 07:43:41 PM »
Okay, check out the latest on Fantrax.  I still have to scale it Bill James style with the pitching points and then double check fielding points, but the Who's Who of the List is much more representative of the quality players we are looking for.
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« Reply #147 on: December 03, 2009, 11:37:34 PM »
I can't argue with last seasons CI rankings 8)
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Re: Scoring Categories
« Reply #148 on: December 04, 2009, 09:58:21 AM »
Okay, I did my final tweak to get it in line with Bill James' ratios.  I attached the spreadsheet that I used for this.  There are three worksheets for Batter's Stats, Pitcher's Stats, and the Analysis of them.  There are extra rows and columns in the Batter's Stats page to figure out the defensive points.  On an individual level, the Bill James ratios will be flawed because of the high variance of any player's offensive talent compared to their defensive talent.  On a macro basis though, the ratios come out excellent when looking at any of the ranges in the top 100.  If you look at the select top 10 or 25, you will notice that the fielding points lose some of their statistical power (still over 10%), but that is because the hitting stats are the majority, and those players are just really good hitters.  I am happy with this scoring system, and I want everyone to check it out in the spreadsheet and/or Fantrax.  I would like to have it approved as soon as possible.  Many thanks goes out to the RC, especially MJ on this one as he started the entire idea of using a H2H points-based system.
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Re: Scoring Categories
« Reply #149 on: December 04, 2009, 11:51:19 AM »
Chad was asking me how he could find out the points for each stat on Fantrax.  It is available under Other -> League Rules Summary and is near the bottom of the page.
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