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Fantasy Leagues => NHL Leagues => Franchise NHL => Topic started by: PsychoticPondGoons on March 21, 2020, 04:14:10 PM
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There's chatter that the NHL could let all teams end the "regular season" with 71 games played and start the Playoffs immediately.
If that scenario plays out, our FNHL playoffs would not work.
Perhaps a suggestion would be to repurpose the remainder of the 2019-20 FNHL playoffs and plug it into the start of the 2020-21 NHL season's schedule. Just a suggestion.
This idea has LEGS baby!
I like that idea to play out the remainder of the 2019-20 playoffs.
Running with that idea to building on that thought, we could create a parallel league with the 8 remaining playoff teams at the start of 2020-21 and play out
* Round 2 Thurs-Sun -- 4 days
* Conference Finals -- 1 week
* FNHL FINALS -- 2 weeks
We would have to ensure:
* the remaining 8 teams have a say and
* 8 teams would need to agree to any setup that is not the expected regular course of the FNHL playoffs we normally undertake
* 8 teams would need to agree unanimously that the prize pool is in-play or agree the remainder of FNHL playoffs are for fun only with no official result recorded.
Parallel league to play out the remainder of the playoffs would be free to setup on Fantrax because it's less than 12 or 16 teams -- but to be double checked by myself & PR.
I believe commissioner controls would allow me and PR to set matchups for each remaining Playoff Round.
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PR should jump on and comment.
This idea has my supoort to vet and flesh out with the remaining 8 FNHL playoff teams:
:PHO: Blkhwkfn
:CLG: DToxFan
:DAL-NHL: & :PIT-NHL: MCrow
:MON-NHL: Mordecai
:NAS: Burkes Boys
:NYI: Johnnyweissflog
Let's hear from these gents! What say you to this idea? Also, if we do this, do you all agree to play using this format and play for :money: prize pool payout?
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Do we have to wait until a month in to have the supplemental and Entry draft? Those are based on results of playoffs. Also, you would have to change the scoring because fights are an advanced stat and would need a premium fee to use.
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Do we have to wait until a month in to have the supplemental and Entry draft? Those are based on results of playoffs.
Yes, we will need to move those dates out.
Also, you would have to change the scoring because fights are an advanced stat and would need a premium fee to use.
Good point. Haven't had to hand pick that stat because we carry over league rules & rosters annually when we setup a new season. That sucks. Consider that stat a RED FLAG. As a preliminary solution, maybe we sacrifice 80$ from the prize pool with the agreement of the remaining teams with a stake in the prize to pay for a Custom Fantrax league.
TBD. But good point to flag about the Flighting Stat being a premium Fantrax feature.
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This idea has LEGS baby!
I like that idea to play out the remainder of the 2019-20 playoffs.
Running with that idea to building on that thought, we could create a parallel league with the 8 remaining playoff teams at the start of 2020-21 and play out
* Round 2 Thurs-Sun -- 4 days
* Conference Finals -- 1 week
* FNHL FINALS -- 2 weeks
We would have to ensure:
* the remaining 8 teams have a say and
* 8 teams would need to agree to any setup that is not the expected regular course of the FNHL playoffs we normally undertake
* 8 teams would need to agree unanimously that the prize pool is in-play or agree the remainder of FNHL playoffs are for fun only with no official result recorded.
Parallel league to play out the remainder of the playoffs would be free to setup on Fantrax because it's less than 12 or 16 teams -- but to be double checked by myself & PR.
I believe commissioner controls would allow me and PR to set matchups for each remaining Playoff Round.
I agree. This plan has strong potential. We might be able to get the Premium fighting stat free if Fantrax still allows a free month trial. We could potentially manually enter the results into the 2019-20 version of FNHL on Fantrax for record keeping.
My hope is the NHL can play out the regular season starting in mid June if you look at how some countries showing recovery from COVID-19 needed 3 months to get things under control. The NHL and players want to recoup all the lost revenue they can when play resumes.
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Agree with Jonathan. Whether there's a fee or not, it would be a great way to play through the remainder of the FNHL Playoffs and crown a new champ for 2019-20. I would start that in week 2 or 3 of the season because week 1 is usually shortened or has weird travel overseas what truncates the schedule of those teams.
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In order to do this properly our rosters would have to be what they are now just for the parallel playoffs. 2020-21 rosters will be different do to contracts, trades, and the drafts. If that’s the case i like it.
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I'm not opposed to it, so I won't block it.
Just that everyone needs to consider that it's a different season, so it will change the dynamics. Players who are UFA's will be unsigned ... which will be even more likely if the NHL has a much shorter offseason. Some will retire. Some will move on to the KHL. Some goalies will lose their starting jobs. Some skaters will get demoted to the AHL.
These are all things that we adjust to over the course of an offseason ... and even over the course of the regular season. But there will be no course for adjustment in a 3-4 week playoff. No trades. No FA signings. Just luck of the draw.
Just something to think about.
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In order to do this properly our rosters would have to be what they are now just for the parallel playoffs. 2020-21 rosters will be different do to contracts, trades, and the drafts. If that’s the case i like it.
The way I see it, the continuation of the playoffs would be set up on a parallel league site. Put another way, we wouldn't just create additional matchups in the 2020-21 league site, we would make a different site for only the 8 remaining playoff teams to play it out.
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I'm not opposed to it, so I won't block it.
Just that everyone needs to consider that it's a different season, so it will change the dynamics. Players who are UFA's will be unsigned ... which will be even more likely if the NHL has a much shorter offseason. Some will retire. Some will move on to the KHL. Some goalies will lose their starting jobs. Some skaters will get demoted to the AHL.
These are all things that we adjust to over the course of an offseason ... and even over the course of the regular season. But there will be no course for adjustment in a 3-4 week playoff. No trades. No FA signings. Just luck of the draw.
Just something to think about.
I respect all those points, Crow. :iatp:
All valid. We will have to see how different and impacted team rosters are in a few months if we consider moving fwd with this option. At this time, we looking over things and giving it a good sniff test, and I agree, some of those potential issues smell bad and could hurt the integrity of of the 2019-20 playoff results.
For now, let's keep poking this option and seeing what issues we need to drill down on if we move ahead.
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I'm not opposed to it, so I won't block it.
Just that everyone needs to consider that it's a different season, so it will change the dynamics. Players who are UFA's will be unsigned ... which will be even more likely if the NHL has a much shorter offseason. Some will retire. Some will move on to the KHL. Some goalies will lose their starting jobs. Some skaters will get demoted to the AHL.
These are all things that we adjust to over the course of an offseason ... and even over the course of the regular season. But there will be no course for adjustment in a 3-4 week playoff. No trades. No FA signings. Just luck of the draw.
Just something to think about.
Crow, no need to worry for your Eastern Conf team. Pens will be given the boot by my Bs. :rofl:
I think you made some good points. Of course, all things being equal, the same fate your Stars and Pens suffer will likely impact the other 5 FNHL playoff teams including FA, injuries, retirement, etc. That said, it'll probably balance out in the end but worth keeping an eye on as the weeks pass during the COVID-19 reality we now live in.
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I'm in.
I doubt the NHL and PA will let contracts expire in June the was they should. If they pick up the season where they left off, the league and PA will get agreement on a special extension to expiring contracts and player Visas will need working out but that's for paid owners and paid GMs to figure out.
As long as we can carry over the FNHL setup to the parallel league and the schedule is standard and not skewed in fav of anyone, I'm all in even if there's a cost to be paid from the prize pool. This gives us closure for the season.
Of course all bets are off if the NHL cuts the regular season short and jumps right into some rejigged playoff format.
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:thumbsup::thumbsup::iatp:
:NAS: Preds release an official statement on this plan: Anywhere. Anytime. Bring it boys! :rofl:
Seriously, it works for me. I think Crow brought up good points. JD's comments seem to address those and I agree. As for this year's Presidents' Trophy winner's comment about Fighting stat, I think Jonathan's point merits tracking of proper carryover of all scoring categories to ensure the integrety if our FNHL playoffs.
Ultimately, I still think the NHL will push for the full completion of the regular season unless COVID-crisis lasts beyond early-July.
They'll need:
2wks of training-camp
rebuild the schedule during that time in conjunction with arena availabilities
update legal framework of contracts and work VISA's for all the players in those situations
rehire all personnel to staff arenas
sell or update existing tickets
That will take us from July-early Sept to crown and NHL champ. Lots of $$$ on the line in the NHL and other professional sports leagues. As a hockey fan, I sincerely hope the NHL can save the regular season in it's entirety which will allow us FNHLers to play for bragging rights. :thumbsup::thumbsup:
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When you think about the plan I outlined above, that will lead to a condenses 2020-21 NHL season and you will see teams going with a true 2 goalie system the way some teams have already been using this year.
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Sorry guys, I totally missed this.
:iatp: :CLG: Calgary is in agreement with this plan. Spend the money to pay for a Fantrax Commissioner Site for these playoffs to properly setup scoring exactly the same way we have it now so we can award a winner and get good closure to the 2019-20 season.
We would need to ensure even distribution of games during the selected period we choose to re-start the playoffs.
I like it.
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Well the NHL/Bettman announced the plan to reopen the 2019-20 season today will include:
* elimination of the remainder of the NHL regular season
* move to a 24-team playoff format
https://www.espn.com/nhl/story/_/id/29225074/nhl-adopts-24-team-playoff-season-resumes
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Overall, this option to continue the 2019/20 playoffs in the 2020/21 NHL season should work.
If not, we can scrap it in the late Fall when the NHL figures out how and when to start next season.
Going with this option, we set up a parallel league, 2019/20 playoff team lineups can simply be Copied & Paste into the "micro-league".
* Supplemental Draft shouldn't be impacted. Can be scheduled for June.
* Free Agency won't be impacted. Should be on schedule as planned for August or scheduled later in late September or October given the 2019/20 NHL season will only wrap up in early September if it restarts in July.
* Salary cap won't suffer at all and perhaps freeze it at 81.5 to not hold up Free Agency. Just a thought.
* Entry Draft will be fine too. How about in mid-September?
Again, the entire league with all 31 teams will move forward.
All that happens for the 2019/20 playoffs to carry on is to take a snapshot of current rosters for the 8 teams and plug them into a new separate site in the Fall during the 2020/21 NHL season.
It's all do-able. :thumbsup::thumbsup:
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:BOS-NHL: approve this plan! :iatp:
I'm honestly ready for the playoffs to continue. I got me some dollars to win!
This plan will work. Sure there'll be some tweaking to get 'er working smoothly but I'm almost 100% certain the mechanics will run as we expect with a parallel site housing the remaining 8 teams and picking up where we left off mid-week of the Division Finals aka Round 2.
We all played hard during the season and the start of the playoffs. I do not feel we should scrap all that effort when there's clearly a workable plan on the table.
Let's do this boys!!!
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So we've heard from :BOS-NHL::NAS::MON-NHL: since the NHL announced the rest of the 2019-20 regular season was in the books.
I want to make sure these gents have their say and confirm the will play for the 2019-20 prize off a parallel site during the 2020-21 season:
Crow :PIT-NHL::DAL-NHL:
DTox :CLG:
Blk :PHO:
Johnny :NYI:
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So we've heard from :BOS-NHL::NAS::MON-NHL: since the NHL announced the rest of the 2019-20 regular season was in the books.
I want to make sure these gents have their say and confirm the will play for the 2019-20 prize off a parallel site during the 2020-21 season:
Crow :PIT-NHL::DAL-NHL:
DTox :CLG:
Blk :PHO:
Johnny :NYI:
Still waiting to hear from the other 4 owners.
In the meantime, I'm setting up the site with the 8 teams and 2 commissioners.
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Still waiting to hear from the other 4 owners.
In the meantime, I'm setting up the site with the 8 teams and 2 commissioners.
The Stars and Pens are good with this ... look at that, you're getting the approval of two teams with one post (http://www.profsl.com/smf/Smileys/default/winner.gif)
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So we've heard from :BOS-NHL::NAS::MON-NHL: since the NHL announced the rest of the 2019-20 regular season was in the books.
I want to make sure these gents have their say and confirm the will play for the 2019-20 prize off a parallel site during the 2020-21 season:
Crow :PIT-NHL::DAL-NHL:
DTox :CLG:
Blk :PHO:
Johnny :NYI:
:CLG: re-confirms we are in agreement to setup the remainder of the 2019-20 playoffs on a parallel site. I've logged in and happy to see PPG and PR get it off the ground. Thank you commissioners. :toast:
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I guess we will wait and see when and how the NHL schedules the 2020-21 regular season. At least the NHL was first out of the gate with a re-start plan. :win:
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Still waiting to hear from the other 4 owners.
In the meantime, I'm setting up the site with the 8 teams and 2 commissioners.
If you are up for the task, I am naturally willing to participate.
So count :NYI: in!
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If you are up for the task, I am naturally willing to participate.
So count :NYI: in!
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:CLG: re-confirms we are in agreement to setup the remainder of the 2019-20 playoffs on a parallel site. I've logged in and happy to see PPG and PR get it off the ground. Thank you commissioners. :toast:
:iatp:
The Stars and Pens are good with this ... look at that, you're getting the approval of two teams with one post (http://www.profsl.com/smf/Smileys/default/winner.gif)
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And then there was one.
:PHO: is the lone wolf but it seems we have quorum to move fwd with this plan.
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Hey you know me always fashionably late. You I love hockey so yeah I’m in
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Hey you know me always fashionably late. You I love hockey so yeah I’m in
Amazing man. With :PHO: giving the green light, it's a GO to play out the 2019-20 playoffs on a parallel site during the 2020-21... that said, we will need to ensure all rules and the schedule are fair for all 8 teams as much as it would've been if the FNHL playoffs had been allowed to continue before COVID-19 hit.
The site is up, now we wait for the NHL to figure out the 2020-21 season. :judge:
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Amazing man. With :PHO: giving the green light, it's a GO to play out the 2019-20 playoffs on a parallel site during the 2020-21... that said, we will need to ensure all rules and the schedule are fair for all 8 teams as much as it would've been if the FNHL playoffs had been allowed to continue before COVID-19 hit.
The site is up, now we wait for the NHL to figure out the 2020-21 season. :judge:
:iatp: Good stuff PPG! Nicely done as usual.
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If the NHL expects to start the 2020-21 season on Dec 1st, I'm going to guess the schedule will be released by late October. If that happens we can figure out which week to re-start our 2019-20 playoffs.
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For anyone who's still in the 2020 playoffs, how's the parallel site looking or has it not been set up yet? Just curious.
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For anyone who's still in the 2020 playoffs, how's the parallel site looking or has it not been set up yet? Just curious.
Hey EndGame!
We created the parallel 2020 FNHL Playoff site back in April when Fantrax opened the 20/21 season. She’s up and ready to go.
The only thing we’re waiting for is a look at the NHL’s 20/21 schedule to find an appropriate 3.5 week period to play out the remainder of our FNHL playoffs and hand out the $530.00 cash prize to our 2019-20 Champion!
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Hey EndGame!
We created the parallel 2020 FNHL Playoff site back in April when Fantrax opened the 20/21 season. She’s up and ready to go.
The only thing we’re waiting for is a look at the NHL’s 20/21 schedule to find an appropriate 3.5 week period to play out the remainder of our FNHL playoffs and hand out the $530.00 cash prize to our 2019-20 Champion!
:iatp: Even though I'm not in the extended playoffs, I appreciate what you guys do as commissioners to keep everything organized around here.
Great league. Terrific commissioners. Tremendous group of owners here in FNHL.
Did that sound like The Donald. :win::iatp:
Thanks from Buffalo :BUF-NHL:
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:iatp: Even though I'm not in the extended playoffs, I appreciate what you guys do as commissioners to keep everything organized around here.
Great league. Terrific commissioners. Tremendous group of owners here in FNHL.
Did that sound like The Donald. :win::iatp:
Thanks from Buffalo :BUF-NHL:
:winner::iatp::iatp::iatp: Totally agree. Well done gentlemen. :toast:
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:iatp: Even though I'm not in the extended playoffs, I appreciate what you guys do as commissioners to keep everything organized around here.
Great league. Terrific commissioners. Tremendous group of owners here in FNHL.
Did that sound like The Donald. :win::iatp:
Thanks from Buffalo :BUF-NHL:
:iatp: Well said, Beef!
That's why I re-upped with FNHL. Love the competition. Love the level of organization. Since I've been here, the judgement shown by the commish's shows me they want a successful league for the long haul. :thumbsup:
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:iatp: Even though I'm not in the extended playoffs, I appreciate what you guys do as commissioners to keep everything organized around here.
Great league. Terrific commissioners. Tremendous group of owners here in FNHL.
Did that sound like The Donald. :win::iatp:
Thanks from Buffalo :BUF-NHL:
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I second that. Great commissioners usually translates into a stable league and great owners. I don't know how things were before I arrived but I see lots of active and knowledgeable people in FNHL playing to win the prize pool annually. Everyone has a different angle on how to get that pot of gold at the end of the rainbow in FNHL. Lots of fun. Glad I'm here. :toast:
PPG & PR setup the playoff site a while ago. It's going to be great. Our rosters are picked up from 2019-20 and won't be impacted by any of the real-time league activity currently going on. It's a brilliant plan that the commissioners were proactive about putting together IMO. I'm in a few league where commissioners have been asleep at the wheel since March 12th.
It always feels like we're a few steps ahead of other leagues in FNHL. :winner:
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:toast::toast::toast:
Only the best owners in this place. Feeling the love everyone. :iatp:
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:toast::toast::toast:
Only the best owners in this place. Feeling the love everyone. :iatp:
Agree! :judge::judge::toast:
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So I've slotted the remaining weeks of the 2019-20 playoffs into mid-Feb for the moment. It's a parked placeholder.
Also asked Fantrax to gift us the 3.5 weeks we need to use that site to crown a winner, got an answer but the green kid didn't understand "gift" and told me to go set date with commish controls for 3.5wks. What a numbnut!!!!!!!!
Either way, it's parked until we know when the NHL will start the 2020-21 season. :toast:
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I'm thinking PPG and PR should recruit Mordecai to the Executive Committee or something.
Mordecai's been on a roll with his recommendations all year. Mind you he might not accept given he hasn't ever officially participated on Trade Committee. Still, lots of heads up suggestions that have made plenty of sense for the betterment of FNHL. :winner:
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I'm thinking PPG and PR should recruit Mordecai to the Executive Committee or something.
Mordecai's been on a roll with his recommendations all year. Mind you he might not accept given he hasn't ever officially participated on Trade Committee. Still, lots of heads up suggestions that have made plenty of sense for the betterment of FNHL. :winner:
:iatp:
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So I've slotted the remaining weeks of the 2019-20 playoffs into mid-Feb for the moment. It's a parked placeholder.
Also asked Fantrax to gift us the 3.5 weeks we need to use that site to crown a winner, got an answer but the green kid didn't understand "gift" and told me to go set date with commish controls for 3.5wks. What a numbnut!!!!!!!!
Either way, it's parked until we know when the NHL will start the 2020-21 season. :toast:
:iatp:
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I'm thinking PPG and PR should recruit Mordecai to the Executive Committee or something.
Mordecai's been on a roll with his recommendations all year. Mind you he might not accept given he hasn't ever officially participated on Trade Committee. Still, lots of heads up suggestions that have made plenty of sense for the betterment of FNHL. :winner:
:iatp::iatp: Thanks EndGame! Appreciate the shoutout.
But there's too much real world stuff on the go to be able to commit to the league management side of FNHL. I'm not the type to sign up and ditch when the going gets tough. If I do something, I own it 110%. With all due respect, I couldn't possibly deliver on a fraction of what PPG (and PR) do around here especially with the expansion draft next year and the moving target of the 2020-21 NHL season, I'm just trying to stay afloat. :toast:
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Looks like we might get things going to continue last yr’s FNHL playoffs... but we need to review the schedule to ensure it’s relatively balanced and fair for the remaining 8 playoff teams. Stay tuned!
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You guys (pigs/ppg) might already know this but there are warnings of keeping players in the minors longer than allowed in the playoff league. It says no points will be accumulated. Just an FYI
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Gents, I've updated the 2019-20 playoff sites.
PR and I looked over the new NHL schedule and feel starting on February 4 allows for the NHL to get 2 wks of games in and allows FNHL to complete the 2019-20 Playoffs before we start the 2020-21 FNHL playoffs with a breather in between to focus of the 2020-21 regular season.
* Rosters were copied & frozen from the 2019-20 league site.
* Expanding to 3 IR spots given COVID, retirees, unsigned FAs in limbo or players who've opted out of play.
* Teams are allowed maximum 2 free player DROPS from their roster if needed.
* MiLR players have games played limits removed for these playoffs.