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Please discuss desired changes to the Extension & Free Agent Compensation Rules here
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I think the high level free agents should be tied to draft pick compensation similar to MLB. This will allow teams that have quality talent to get a little compensation in the event
This is another reason to change the rule on trading draft picks. Teams should have the opportunity every year to sign any player.
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Teams should be able to extend all of their free agents. The installment of a Rule 5 Draft would help maintain parity and still keep the strategic element while balancing the amount of trades lost by the prevention of draft pick trading.
A players new salary should be able to be lower than the previous year.
Owners should be allowed to extend all players despite their percentile rank to allow for multiple injuries and the projection of up and coming players.
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I agree. I think we should go to the way the rest of the leagues do by the ranking of player. Set a value for each player 1 to 200 example. It would save time and get a true value for each player.
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Maybe set a term limit to extensions. For example, $1m would only be good for one year or like $15m for 1-5yrs
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Teams should be able to extend all of their free agents. The installment of a Rule 5 Draft would help maintain parity and still keep the strategic element while balancing the amount of trades lost by the prevention of draft pick trading.
A players new salary should be able to be lower than the previous year.
Owners should be allowed to extend all players despite their percentile rank to allow for multiple injuries and the projection of up and coming players.
Agree on everything here.
I could get behind a new contract can't be less than 50% of previous contract. A few leagues have instituted this and it's not bad.
All of a teams free agents should be able to be extended.
Set the resign values off of current salaries and updated every couple of seasons. This is pretty standard across current leagues on here and all of the leagues before.
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I think these are decent ideas but I’d have to see what the actual proposed rule change looks like.
Some things to think about....
If you make everybody eligible to be extended then you HAVE to have some associated rule regarding contract lengths. Otherwise people could just extend everybody always in 1yr increments to avoid long term risk. That said, it’s hard to say the higher the yearly average of contract the higher the min length because some situations don’t work like that. For example, an old but still good player.
I don’t like the 5 year 1M per year type contracts but it’s hard to tell other people how to use their salary cap and to be fair, some teams in real life do things like extend the money out and sacrificing future payroll for short term gains so it’s hard to tell AFB owners to stop doing that.
I think the key to it all would be having a good plan on resign values. I like the idea of having a value attached to their ranking (like we have now) but perhaps with more attention and updating to make it more accurate and reflective of value.
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We could update extensions and have an "extension floor". We could use the average MLB salary for the prior year (2018 was $4,095,686). We can tie player percentile to pay within Armchair for extensions.
I think the Type A and B free agents allow teams to recoup a little for top players leaving. A compensatory round would be added just like MLB.
To Shane's point, we should have a scale to where the $$$ amount gives you options on years; for example, a minimum contract of $500K should only be allowed for 1 yr while say $10M+ is 3-5yrs or $17M is no less than 5yrs on renewal.
Brent's idea of resigning a declining player for less is good but I'd up the percentage some to say 75 or 80%.
I think we should also look at buyouts. I still think full contract should be paid, but it should be able to be rolled into one year contract that hits the cap the same year. For instance, Pujols has 3y $30M remaining and retires. The team can buy him out 1y 30M instead of hurting future caps. In the event the team can't, the following season it could pay 1y $20M (because they already paid $10m in 2018). It allows the player to still get paid, the team to still get hit, and the benefits of freeing future cap.
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We could update extensions and have an "extension floor". We could use the average MLB salary for the prior year (2018 was $4,095,686). We can tie player percentile to pay within Armchair for extensions.
I think the Type A and B free agents allow teams to recoup a little for top players leaving. A compensatory round would be added just like MLB.
To Shane's point, we should have a scale to where the $$$ amount gives you options on years; for example, a minimum contract of $500K should only be allowed for 1 yr while say $10M+ is 3-5yrs or $17M is no less than 5yrs on renewal.
Brent's idea of resigning a declining player for less is good but I'd up the percentage some to say 75 or 80%.
I think we should also look at buyouts. I still think full contract should be paid, but it should be able to be rolled into one year contract that hits the cap the same year. For instance, Pujols has 3y $30M remaining and retires. The team can buy him out 1y 30M instead of hurting future caps. In the event the team can't, the following season it could pay 1y $20M (because they already paid $10m in 2018). It allows the player to still get paid, the team to still get hit, and the benefits of freeing future cap.
Some thoughts...
“We could update extensions and have an "extension floor". We could use the average MLB salary for the prior year (2018 was $4,095,686). We can tie player percentile to pay within Armchair for extensions.”
This is already the case. If you mean just updating the floor to something lower and extension values relative to player percentile to be more accurate then yeah I agree they could use updating.
“I think the Type A and B free agents allow teams to recoup a little for top players leaving. A compensatory round would be added just like MLB.”
I like this. Could just decide on a limit for compensation to kick in similar to the $50M threshold in MLB. When a FA contract goes over the set $$$ marker then it triggers the team who had him before to receive a comp pick. Keeps it simple. I wouldn’t penalize teams who sign the FAs or involve international J2 money like real life just to keep it from getting messy.
“To Shane's point, we should have a scale to where the $$$ amount gives you options on years; for example, a minimum contract of $500K should only be allowed for 1 yr while say $10M+ is 3-5yrs or $17M is no less than 5yrs on renewal.”
Not quite the point I was trying to make. I think this is flawed. For example, what about players like Nelson Cruz who is being bid on right now? His bidding is up to 17.2M right now. It’s hardly fair to force him to be signed for 3 or 5 years. I don’t think there should be any rules like this. Let the market decide. Everybody bidding on Cruz right now is limiting it to 1 or 2 years, justifiably so. Let owners use their money however they want. If we have to have a rule on this it should only affect cheap contracts. For example, any contract whose total value is 6M or less should be no longer than 3 years.
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I believe everyone is using 5y contracts for the most part and it makes sense. This year is a good example. These long term cheap contracts limit players in free agency,and make rebuilding teams have to wait five years to even field a roster. I give these contracts out too. I think it benefits the league to tie $$$ to years. Say I sign Harper for $330M. I should be able to pay him 1y $330M if I like or 5 y 330m. A $2.5m deal should not be 5y 500k. It's not realistic. I think tying smaller deals to 1-3 years would be beneficial to everyone.
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The cheap 5 year contracts are given mostly to players who would be locked down anyway. They would just be given a PC contract, and the money would be all spent in one season.
I support the league the way it is. We already have at least three leagues that follow that same kind of pattern in the way contracts are done. There reason I am part of this league is because it is different.
Also, MLB doesn't put those kind of limits on contracts, aren't we trying to be realistic here?
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The cheap 5 year contracts are given mostly to players who would be locked down anyway. They would just be given a PC contract, and the money would be all spent in one season.
I support the league the way it is. We already have at least three leagues that follow that same kind of pattern in the way contracts are done. There reason I am part of this league is because it is different.
Also, MLB doesn't put those kind of limits on contracts, aren't we trying to be realistic here?
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I agree its up to the owners of the teams to go after free agents and down the money they have. I don't see a good enough reason to change the rule. With us eliminating trade ing draft picks that itself will help all the owners to be able to get those great young players added to their team which will be able to keep those players once they make it to the majors
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There is a discrepancy with the majors minimum salary.
Transactions
Free Agency Rules
Majors Minimum salary: $400k
http://www.profsl.com/smf/index.php?topic=131562.0
Armchair Fantasy Baseball: Rules
Rules: Salaries, Free Agency, & Extensions
Majors Minimum salary: $500k
http://www.profsl.com/smf/index.php?topic=130463.0
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There is a discrepancy with the majors minimum salary.
Transactions
Free Agency Rules
Majors Minimum salary: $400k
http://www.profsl.com/smf/index.php?topic=131562.0
Armchair Fantasy Baseball: Rules
Rules: Salaries, Free Agency, & Extensions
Majors Minimum salary: $500k
http://www.profsl.com/smf/index.php?topic=130463.0
Same thing for minors minimum. It should be a 50K bonus for a PC bid