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Fantasy Leagues => NHL Leagues => Franchise NHL => Topic started by: Burkes Boys on September 24, 2020, 01:37:55 PM
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Pigsrule invited some of us over from a CBS Hockey pool we started with a bunch of CBS board veterans. We were looking for something more challenging than the usual H2H for money. He found this league and said it was different.
Early on, FNHL was run like others, fly by night commissioners who left after 10mths there was Joeshmoe who set it up then handed it off to someone who was bipolar and was good but then went off the rails badly and got banned for being a jerk, owners abandoning teams, we're talking 2/3 of the league.
Then PR took over year 2 and laid down the law. That drove a bunch of not too serious owners to join the free leagues. But perhaps the best move Pigsrule made was when he recruited PPG from out of retirement as I understand. HAHAHA Told old PPG to put on some pants and get to work. PPG's been the back bone of FNHL ever since IMO. Pigsrule is the brains. PPG's the glue that holds everything together and makes it run like clock work. :thumbsup::thumbsup::win:
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:iatp: yep 100% i myself am a CBS refugee.
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Pigsrule invited some of us over from a CBS Hockey pool we started with a bunch of CBS board veterans. We were looking for something more challenging than the usual H2H for money. He found this league and said it was different.
Early on, FNHL was run like others, fly by night commissioners who left after 10mths there was Joeshmoe who set it up then handed it off to someone who was bipolar and was good but then went off the rails badly and got banned for being a jerk, owners abandoning teams, we're talking 2/3 of the league.
Then PR took over year 2 and laid down the law. That drove a bunch of not too serious owners to join the free leagues. But perhaps the best move Pigsrule made was when he recruited PPG from out of retirement as I understand. HAHAHA Told old PPG to put on some pants and get to work. PPG's been the back bone of FNHL ever since IMO. Pigsrule is the brains. PPG's the glue that holds everything together and makes it run like clock work. :thumbsup::thumbsup::win:
:iatp::iatp::iatp: I've decided to turn it into the official FNHL History thread! :taco::win: Let's hear from the OG's, the ones who have lasted this long and can tell the story of how FNHL came to be the best damn money league it is today!
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BB's right, PR dragged me outta retirement because I had given up Fantasy sports for a long time. Years maybe over a decade when we were still drafting with pencil and paper over beers. He said there was a decent setup in FNHL in need of some fine tuning to get the best fantasy hockey minds on board. Didn't believe him.
Stopped by frequently after PR convinced me or bugged me enough to get my attention. That was back in Summer of 2011 when I was a regular troller, so I know when a new prospective owner tells me they've been trolling FNHL for months, been there ... done that!
I saw some guys trying to run FNHL, changing rules on the fly constantly so anyone with a longterm plan was screwed. The league was free so lots of owners were trying out hockey. Most abandoned ship after free agency or after 1-3 months. LOL It was a sad state of affairs.
Orignal commissioners year 1 and 2
If I recall, the guy originally running things was Joeshmoe and he bailed before Free agency 2011. So 2010-Spring 2011. We think he was a university undergrad.
Then there was Gilly who was funny and wired, but lost interest and said he had personal stuff to sort and bailed after a year. 2011- Spring 2012. The league was 1/4 or 1/3 full. Before we banned Gilly, he tried to make PR look bad and PMed the guy running the site and his admins making up lies and trying to get PR suspended or booted altogether. Fast fwd to 2020, Gilly's reputation on ProFSL is a cautionary tale of strange gents hiding behind an internet handle. This guy was someone with personal problems that you could smell from miles away.
What I saw of those first 2 commissioners, didn't interest me in spending time on FNHL. Really liked the idea of a 30 team salary cap money league. But it wasn't serious at all because of the guys originally running things.
Then PR jumped in starting year 3 (he can tell his side of the story from that point on). Not sure why he did but he did.
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BB's right, PR dragged me outta retirement because I had given up Fantasy sports for a long time. Years maybe over a decade when we were still drafting with pencil and paper over beers. He said there was a decent setup in FNHL in need of some fine tuning to get the best fantasy hockey minds on board. Didn't believe him.
Stopped by frequently after PR convinced me or bugged me enough to get my attention. That was back in Summer of 2011 when I was a regular troller, so I know when a new prospective owner tells me they've been trolling FNHL for months, been there ... done that!
I saw some guys trying to run FNHL, changing rules on the fly constantly so anyone with a longterm plan was screwed. The league was free so lots of owners were trying out hockey. Most abandoned ship after free agency or after 1-3 months. LOL It was a sad state of affairs.
Orignal commissioners year 1 and 2
If I recall, the guy originally running things was Joeshmoe and he bailed before Free agency 2011. So 2010-Spring 2011. We think he was a university undergrad.
Then there was Gilly who was funny and wired, but lost interest and said he had personal stuff to sort and bailed after a year. 2011- Spring 2012. The league was 1/4 or 1/3 full. Before we banned Gilly, he tried to make PR look bad and PMed the guy running the site and his admins making up lies and trying to get PR suspended or booted altogether. Fast fwd to 2020, Gilly's reputation on ProFSL is a cautionary tale of strange gents hiding behind an internet handle. This guy was someone with personal problems that you could smell from miles away.
What I saw of those first 2 commissioners, didn't interest me in spending time on FNHL. Really liked the idea of a 30 team salary cap money league. But it wasn't serious at all because of the guys originally running things.
Then PR jumped in starting year 3 (he can tell his side of the story from that point on). Not sure why he did but he did.
Good story PPG! Sounds like it was a bit of the wild west in the early days of FNHL. Glad it's all pro now! :toast:
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Good story PPG! Sounds like it was a bit of the wild west in the early days of FNHL. Glad it's all pro now! :toast:
Who else is picturing anchor man battles?
I could see Blkhwkfn killing someone w a Trident. PR is definitely Burgandy and PPG Chip in sports
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Who else is picturing anchor man battles?
I could see Blkhwkfn killing someone w a Trident. PR is definitely Burgandy and PPG Chip in sports
:rofl::rofl:
PPG as Chip.
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The history of FNHL was straight up sad. I think the veterans left are PR, myself, Jonathan and DickieDunn. PPG is a relative newbie from 2012. lol
If memory serves, I think Jonathan pulled a nice signing from under the nose of the original commish Joe and snagged Ben Bishop. Jonathan, correct me if I'm wrong. That got Joe all crazy when he finally checked in and noticed someone had read the rules about MiLR players exceed the games played rule AT THAT TIME they were automatically FAs and fair game for anyone to sign.
We've even had drama with the likes of Drew, SlackJack and Daddy. I think Drew was one of the funnier stories. Bottomline, I think he was a university student from the smell of things. Then he graduated and had to live in the real world and suddenly didn't have time to juggle free time fantasy leagues.
All part of FNHL folklore.
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Yeah, he said it was crazy to give a backup 10M. Little did he know.......
I haven't hit it with a goalie since, LOL. I think I have done better lately, at least finding guys who get some starts.
It should be an interesting FA this year, with cash being king. I'd expect the contracts to be on the lower end, giving the extensions and reduction in cap. Who knows?
This went from a project to the best league on site. Not bad.
I was sad at the end of last year. I took the worst team and made them the best, and then they choked in playoffs and then Covid happened. They wanted to make sure the :EDM: didn't get to hold that cup.
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Yeah, he said it was crazy to give a backup 10M. Little did he know.......
I haven't hit it with a goalie since, LOL. I think I have done better lately, at least finding guys who get some starts.
It should be an interesting FA this year, with cash being king. I'd expect the contracts to be on the lower end, giving the extensions and reduction in cap. Who knows?
This went from a project to the best league on site. Not bad.
I was sad at the end of last year. I took the worst team and made them the best, and then they choked in playoffs and then Covid happened. They wanted to make sure the :EDM: didn't get to hold that cup.
I think your Oliers caught fantasy-COVID.
Way to call it on Ben Bishop, Jonathan. Bishop was not a sure thing until he was, finally. Same for Devan Dubnyk. I can imagine a $10million contract 10yrs ago in FNHL well before goalie extension inflation was like a "are you nuts or a crazy genius" type of move. We know what you are today, fantasy genius. :toast:
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:iatp: Great posts guys. I'm enjoying the read. :toast:
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Fun read for a n00bs like me. I read some other stories in the Fantrax chat. Wild stuff.
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:iatp:
Hey King, didn't know you joined another league on this site. How's it going?
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Hey King, didn't know you joined another league on this site. How's it going?
King is building his fantasy hockey empire! I'm guess his strategy is "Conquer the West!"
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My 1st year in FNHL things were run pretty well by hockeyfreak3000 :DAL-NHL: and Gilly :NYI:
It was when Gilly ditched FNHL in 2012 that I jumped in to help keep things afloat for what was supposed to be 1 year but 8 yrs later I’m still around though PPG is in the driver’s seat most days.
The odd thing was some other guy named Sizzrat ( GMed :EDM: ) initially said he wanted to commish starting 2012-13 but bailed shortly after saying that and dropped off the face of the earth.
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My 1st year in FNHL things were run pretty well by hockeyfreak3000 :DAL-NHL: and Gilly :NYI:
It was when Gilly ditched FNHL in 2012 that I jumped in to help keep things afloat for what was supposed to be 1 year but 8 yrs later I’m still around though PPG is in the driver’s seat most days.
The odd thing was some other guy named Sizzrat ( GMed :EDM: ) initially said he wanted to commish starting 2012-13 but bailed shortly after saying that and dropped off the face of the earth.
So I'm Sizzrat 2.0?!!!! Really!??
Did the world not see what Gilly was doing. The best was when Gilly snuck into FNHL as Bridgestone.
Can you imagine Gilly sneaking back into a league he left high and dry only to try the backdoor and pretend he was another person and zero accountability for leaving 30 teams in limbo?
The worst part was the excuses & attempt to troll PR for a fight then dragging Colby/Profsl owner into the mix and get PR banned. Imagine that. And they actually sided with Gilly at first.
Well, fast fwd 10yrs and look where that other gent is and what we've done with FNHL.
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So I'm Sizzrat 2.0?!!!! Really!??
Yup! That’s what u r! :judge::toast:
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I had some lore with Anton Forsberg too! I bought him out because I thought 3.3m was too much money. He ended up starting a few games to end the season and then I believe he went to Chicago. He ended up going for something crazy like 14m per in the offseason. Sharks won him. Owner sold Sharks and bought Wild. Wild traded for that albatross. Wild dropped him in the middle of the supplemental draft, when they weren't even up to draft, and I took him. Wild GM is still paying 5.2m for the next 2 yrs while he is hanging out in my minors. Worst contract ever handed out in this league and its probably not close.
I started with the Blues here and one of my favorite picks I made with them was D Esa Lindell in the 4th round. I had no idea he would be anything, but I did make a trade with Ripper for him to come to Edmonton. I even made that trade before he ever made it to the league. Pretty good return on investment on this player. That is why drafting is fun, because you never know where you will find the next contributor to your franchise.
BB is also a longtime GM here.
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Esa Lindell was a very nice pick. I though he was good but not as good as he's turned out to be. Definitely one that got away for me.
That Anton Forsberg drop was textbook Indians. Of course Jonathan saw it all the way and jumped on Anton who appeared to be heir apparent to be #1 in Chicago that year. And that BO cap hit is still brutal.
One of the great things about FNHL is how we all value draft picks. Credit to PR & PPG for ensuring they have value and aren't afterthoughts. I love me a good draft and this year's prospect crop looks promising.
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My story isn't directly about FNHL but about my BY experience. Still involves FNHL indirectly.
I think I was in BY for all of a week or 2 when I first joined Profsl. I didn't reply to a PM for 5-7 days and got kicked out by Drew for not being active enough for his precious BY. You could tell the guy had too much time and no family, definitely no kids or a house. All I could do was laugh. My guess is the guy actually created spawn now and understand he was premature with his decision. From what I hear he disappears for stretches now. Karma. :thumbsup::thumbsup:
How does this indirectly involve FNHL?
Well, all I can say is after that regrettable encounter with Drew, I appreciate how professional and mature PR & PPG are in this league. People seem to get it here. Play hard but relax and don't let stuff wind you up.
Then seeing how Drew used commish privileges to retroactively adjust his lineup numerous times to win matchups just made a lot of us question those FNHL champions. It did for me. Maybe that huge Anton Forsberg BO cap hit is bad karma slapping the face of that Minnesota Wild franchise.
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I had some lore with Anton Forsberg too! I bought him out because I thought 3.3m was too much money. He ended up starting a few games to end the season and then I believe he went to Chicago. He ended up going for something crazy like 14m per in the offseason. Sharks won him. Owner sold Sharks and bought Wild. Wild traded for that albatross. Wild dropped him in the middle of the supplemental draft, when they weren't even up to draft, and I took him. Wild GM is still paying 5.2m for the next 2 yrs while he is hanging out in my minors. Worst contract ever handed out in this league and its probably not close.
I started with the Blues here and one of my favorite picks I made with them was D Esa Lindell in the 4th round. I had no idea he would be anything, but I did make a trade with Ripper for him to come to Edmonton. I even made that trade before he ever made it to the league. Pretty good return on investment on this player. That is why drafting is fun, because you never know where you will find the next contributor to your franchise.
BB is also a longtime GM here.
I took a trip back in time and looked up the Anton Forsberg free agent bidding. WOW. 66million bid!!!!
Then seems the new Sharks owner unloaded the Forsberg contract back to the same guy who bid up Forsberg.
http://www.profsl.com/smf/index.php?topic=326687.msg1330225#msg1330225
But to trade for a $13.2m cap hit only to drop him a few months later. WOW again.
It's true Forsberg looked like he would get a chance to start but he wasn't a lock by any stretch.
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My story isn't directly about FNHL but about my BY experience. Still involves FNHL indirectly.
I think I was in BY for all of a week or 2 when I first joined Profsl. I didn't reply to a PM for 5-7 days and got kicked out by Drew for not being active enough for his precious BY. You could tell the guy had too much time and no family, definitely no kids or a house. All I could do was laugh. My guess is the guy actually created spawn now and understand he was premature with his decision. From what I hear he disappears for stretches now. Karma. :thumbsup::thumbsup:
Sounds a little extreme to be shown the door after just joining a league. I've been in leagues where GMs fight and argue constantly about stuff like rules that are written and spelled out for all. Then you realize it's some 20 something who thinks raging on others is the way to make a point.
A personal pet peeve is GMs who complain about reply times to emai/PM/trade offers, then they take way longer if you ever happen to send them communication/trade offer. Weird entitlement thing I guess.
Stuff like that takes away from the enjoyment of fantasy. I stopped a few years ago and stepped back from several long time leagues where people were getting petty and telling each other how they were offended by this and that and challenging things left and right. The worst is when people start bringing their personal lives into fantasy sports. Pay for therapy like the rest of the adult population. Oblivious to the fact maybe my real world stuff is way more complex than theirs and involves dollar amts that are not on the same level as theirs (happens when you're in leagues with 20 somethings or early 30 somethings) and to just park their personal issues at the login screen.
My pledge to any league I join is expect to see me go for the title immediately. Expect me to respect your messages if you show respect for mine. Expect trade offers from my team, but if you need days and weeks to think it over, that's fine just don't expect me to wait around with the same offer from last month. Expect me to have an opinion (respectful) and don't expect a push over because that makes for a weak and easy league. If you disrespect my fantasy team with lopsided trade offers, expect me to return the favour. I do not bring my personal life, religion nor politics to a league and I don't want to hold hands in side-by-side bathroom stalls. :toast:
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My story isn't directly about FNHL but about my BY experience. Still involves FNHL indirectly.
I think I was in BY for all of a week or 2 when I first joined Profsl. I didn't reply to a PM for 5-7 days and got kicked out by Drew for not being active enough for his precious BY. You could tell the guy had too much time and no family, definitely no kids or a house. All I could do was laugh. My guess is the guy actually created spawn now and understand he was premature with his decision. From what I hear he disappears for stretches now. Karma. :thumbsup::thumbsup:
How does this indirectly involve FNHL?
Well, all I can say is after that regrettable encounter with Drew, I appreciate how professional and mature PR & PPG are in this league. People seem to get it here. Play hard but relax and don't let stuff wind you up.
Then seeing how Drew used commish privileges to retroactively adjust his lineup numerous times to win matchups just made a lot of us question those FNHL champions. It did for me. Maybe that huge Anton Forsberg BO cap hit is bad karma slapping the face of that Minnesota Wild franchise.
That’s some laundry
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I took a trip back in time and looked up the Anton Forsberg free agent bidding. WOW. 66million bid!!!!
Then seems the new Sharks owner unloaded the Forsberg contract back to the same guy who bid up Forsberg.
http://www.profsl.com/smf/index.php?topic=326687.msg1330225#msg1330225
But to trade for a $13.2m cap hit only to drop him a few months later. WOW again.
It's true Forsberg looked like he would get a chance to start but he wasn't a lock by any stretch.
He was good until they realized he couldn't stop a beach ball. He is getting a proper pay from me, NOTHING. LOL
Any G with a pulse if worth stashing here.
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He was good until they realized he couldn't stop a beach ball. He is getting a proper pay from me, NOTHING. LOL
Any G with a pulse if worth stashing here.
I will just add that the Wild ownership at the time.......was wild