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Jesse brought this up due to our cap dropping by around $6.0m for next season.
- Would this be something we allow or consider?
- How many would we allow?
- What stipulations would be in place?
- Dollar value?
- Who can be and who can it not be?
- Others?
I would allow this if the league is in favour. One stipulation though that would have to be included would be if the player was signed to a extension this season they would be ineligible for the buyout.
What is everyone's thoughts on this?
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Jesse brought this up due to our cap dropping by around $6.0m for next season.
- Would this be something we allow or consider?
- How many would we allow?
- What stipulations would be in place?
- Dollar value?
- Who can be and who can it not be?
- Others?
I would allow this if the league is in favour. One stipulation though that would have to be included would be if the player was signed to a extension this season they would be ineligible for the buyout.
What is everyone's thoughts on this?
I would be open to 1 Free buyout and it could not be someone we signed to an extension and they can not be in the minors
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I would be open to 1 Free buyout and it could not be someone we signed to an extension and they can not be in the minors
:iatp:
Would make for an interesting FA as well
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I :veto: buyouts and say we just keep the cap the same until the real NHL catches back up. :thumbsup:
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Don't like the buy out idea, I say lower the cap to that amount and we adjust to it....It will be hard but thats why BY aint for the faint of heart :)
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I am for waiting for the cap too catch up but I think we need to do something
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I don't like the buy out for these reasons............
A) We would then ( as a league) have to decide on a criteria...ie who, how much salary,what year of their contract.... ect ect.
B) I like the fact BY mirrors the nhl so well. The NHL is not giving any buy-outs that I have heard. Every GM has got to work with in the new salary cap and build his team the best he can.We should do the same.
C) I dont know if it is just me but I feel like we already get a free buy-out during the "waiver free period". If Havlat was on his last year of his contract...........he would be sitting in the minors for me!!!! :puke:
So for those reasons I gotta :veto:
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I don't like the buy out for these reasons............
A) We would then ( as a league) have to decide on a criteria...ie who, how much salary,what year of their contract.... ect ect.
B) I like the fact BY mirrors the nhl so well. The NHL is not giving any buy-outs that I have heard. Every GM has got to work with in the new salary cap and build his team the best he can.We should do the same.
C) I dont know if it is just me but I feel like we already get a free buy-out during the "waiver free period". If Havlat was on his last year of his contract...........he would be sitting in the minors for me!!!! :puke:
So for those reasons I gotta :veto:
Just for information
A) I think we could do something easy like I suggested above
B) The real NHL gets 2 free buyouts per teams 1 this year and 1 in 2013-14 although a team can use both this year or 1 in each season but can not use both in 2013-14
C) I think having a free buyout will help eliminate having high paid stars like Havlat out of the minors and on our rosters
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I :veto: buyouts and say we just keep the cap the same until the real NHL catches back up. :thumbsup:
:iatp: :rofl:
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I :veto: buyouts and say we just keep the cap the same until the real NHL catches back up. :thumbsup:
Unfortunately I am going to stick with the rules here to emulate the NHL cap as that is in the rules, the projected cap space is always kept up to date so teams should know where they sit going into the next year as well.
B) I like the fact BY mirrors the nhl so well. The NHL is not giving any buy-outs that I have heard. Every GM has got to work with in the new salary cap and build his team the best he can.We should do the same.
As Jesse stated the NHL has two amnesty buyouts, one that can be used this season if they wish and 1 next season. They can also both be used next season if they wish. This would mean that we would be emulating the NHL if we added these.
I am going to add a poll at the top on whether to have them or not, then we can decide on stipulations if need be after.
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Also let's try not to take our personal teams into account when voting on the poll and what is better for the league overall. I know it is hard but let's at least try.
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I was thinking even if we don't do buyouts as long as we do something to help with a 8.5% drop in cap even if we roll back player salaries 8.5% although that would put a huge strain on Drew. I firmly believe something needs to be done even though we emulate the NHL I think 2 buyouts is too many. 1 would give everyone just enough to get under the cap and it would make more movement come FA
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Because we are emulating the real NHL, I believe we should at least have 1 buy out this season and potentially one buy out the season after that. This will help solve the cap problem without having to do a lot of math while keeping to the NHL's rule of paying the players what they are owe.
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Because we are emulating the real NHL, I believe we should at least have 1 buy out this season and potentially one buy out the season after that. This will help solve the cap problem without having to do a lot of math while keeping to the NHL's rule of paying the players what they are owe.
Completely agree! If we are trying to emulate the NHL, then this is exactly how we should do it. We should follow the same restrictions as the NHL as well
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:veto: Alright, caps going down, it means we all have to make decisions w/resigns, call-ups. Thats the challenge of being a GM in this league. We already have 2 waiver free periods and an option for "claimable waivers". I'm sure most people would like to drop a contract, but I vote no, being as having a buyout is to me nothing more than the easy way out. Just my opinion.
:toast:
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Like one is going to be a barn burner. Still need 10 more votes though.
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I also wanted to remind people that the minor cap is going to drop to from 20m to 15m next year as well.
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Can anybody be bought out? or just players on your main roster?
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Can anybody be bought out? or just players on your main roster?
That would be something we would discuss if it gets approved. But probably just players on main roster but minor league roster would be good to so we could get players like Phaneuf, Hamhuis, Timonen, etc out of the minors.
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I voted yes, as i dont think iit will take away formt he league. Ifsomeone is bought out they will be a FA and they will end up somewhere, andI think Minors shuld be included as guys in the minors will sit there and rot until the contract runs out and they should at least be on a persons team.
This is a league vote for me as I wouldn't use the buyout because I don't have any players on my team in need of one, but for the league overall I dont mind this
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Don't like the buy out idea, I say lower the cap to that amount and we adjust to it....It will be hard but thats why BY aint for the faint of heart :)
:iatp:
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I broke the tie as I do not mind either. If the real NHL is allowing for 1 or 2, we could afford to let go of 1. Even so 6m is quite a drop in cap, so 1 buy out might not be enough for some teams, but we definitely should not go over 1
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we do like NHL for cap .... so we do like NHL and get free buyout ... plane and simple :thumbsup:
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Drew asked me to chime in. As I am very new to this league and really am not a part of it yet it is a tough question to answer.
As I have read all the responses it seems that this league is trying to emulate the NHL as close as possible. With 18 teams it already doesn't but that is only one observation so far! LOL.
In the rules it says that the cap moves with the NHL cap. So be it. If the cap moves down by $6m then the buyout will be necessary.
Pretty plain and simple if you ask me. I think you have no choice but to have a buyout or some teams will just be tied up too much without it really being their own fault.
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vote is 11-8, somehow? but if we take one away from either side then the vote is 10-8 or 11-7 so it passes. Now we just have to determine or stipulations. I will start a new poll for one for the number of amnesty buyouts I want us to vote on. Other stipulations can be discussed here and if we need to have polls we will have them.
Some stipulations that must be upheld:
- can't be a person who was extended in the 2012-13 season
- has to be used in the amnesty period that is held after the second extension period (this meaning that teams can not sign extensions past their projected cap space in anticipation of amnesty buyout)
Probably more but we will discuss them
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vote is 11-8, somehow? but if we take one away from either side then the vote is 10-8 or 11-7 so it passes. Now we just have to determine or stipulations. I will start a new poll for one for the number of amnesty buyouts I want us to vote on. Other stipulations can be discussed here and if we need to have polls we will have them.
Some stipulations that must be upheld:
- can't be a person who was extended in the 2012-13 season
- has to be used in the amnesty period that is held after the second extension period (this meaning that teams can not sign extensions past their projected cap space in anticipation of amnesty buyout)
Probably more but we will discuss them
Maybe because I voted?
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Maybe because I voted?
Nope only 18 members in the league and cho34 hasn't signed in yet. It is also up to 12-8 now so not too worried. So when it was 9-8 I believe that was right.
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Nope only 18 members in the league and cho34 hasn't signed in yet. It is also up to 12-8 now so not too worried. So when it was 9-8 I believe that was right.
When I voted it was 9 - 8 in favor of the buyout, so if you are waiting for Cho, have him write out his vote
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When I voted it was 9 - 8 in favor of the buyout, so if you are waiting for Cho, have him write out his vote
yahoolando voted in his place as the co-GM
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I just voted for the first time and was the 21st vote. Somebody not in the league voting? Or somebody voting more than once?
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I just voted for the first time and was the 21st vote. Somebody not in the league voting? Or somebody voting more than once?
Conspiracy???? :rofl:
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I just voted for the first time and was the 21st vote. Somebody not in the league voting? Or somebody voting more than once?
Don't know what has happened but obviously you voted for yes, I will lock it now.
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Please discuss now on the poll thread. Final decision on number and stipulations will be made there.