Backyard Contraction Discussion

[whiteghost]

Several good points made above and I appreciate the discussion.  I am torn, as I see value in both positions.  I probably lean toward keeping the teams with the goal of finding managers, but it does present problems with respect to trades and daily management of the club.  I don't mean to waffle, so if I have to vote - leave the teams we have.  If the majority feels different, I am good with that as well.

Finally, I strongly echo the point made by someone regarding getting notified about posts and emails.  I used to get emails, but for some reason I don't anymore.  I am always on email so receiving such a prompt would be highly preferred to having to login everytime.  If anyone knows how to set this setting, please let me know.

Cheers,
Rob

[Ric_2227]

I am not in favor of contraction, I feel that top managers will come out of the process with a stronger Team because of their abilities to find ways to acquire the best players. Keeping 2 openings will bring in new blood that could be an asset for our league.

If the majority wants to contract, like Vik said  I would be ok with it.

[Tony]

I would do a draft based on reverse order of last years standings. I feel that is the fairest way To keep the league competitive or you will create even more league parity if the top teams get to add the best players on those teams for no cost besides cap space which we are going to give them for free with drops

I would say the same thing if I was getting the first pick. Haha

[DMarch47]

I am for the contraction because the pandemic that has warped the world of sports will continue for the future having people not apply themselves to the serious belief to CODIV-19.

[jlapo11]

Do not forget to vote. There is a poll underway for the contraction

[Drew]

Hey guys,

I am currently this season not in favour of contraction but maybe we need to get some stipulations around activity. I know I am not as activity as I once was but I try to answer any PMs and respond on the board but some don't but are still active.

I have some issues with contraction at the current time:
- I don't believe FA or reverse draft order are either a fair way of distributing players. I would say if we were able to prepare and knew the players were coming in advance of other transaction then maybe would be fairer. I would also say that the max contracts would need to be reevaluated as 10m is not a ridiculous amount now in comparison to when the max contract was put in.  Reverse draft order wouldn't necessarily be fair as well because having the 1st overall pick in both the entry and a distribution draft seems like way more of a benefit then any other year.

- Contraction means that divisions will need to change or there will no longer be balance between divisions, unless we contracted by 4 teams. This would also change the playoff format, among other things I haven't thought about yet. We could go back to 3 divisions and a 8 team playoff again but I feel our current set up seems "more right".

I'm sure there are other things which we will come across by contracting such as salary inflation for players which will make currently contracted players way more valuable in trades and such.

[Drew]

I also didn't see the teams that are being talked about contraction prior to my previous post. Before possible contract would anyone like to move open to these 2 teams. They were both playoff teams and both teams have a good core and good goaltenders for use. The reverse draft order would then cause some possible issues with our 3 goalie max rule.

For example if I was able to land:
Andrei Vasilevskiy, $3.8m (2019-20), I would want him over say Joonas Korpisalo, $3.2m (2022-23) but if there was no free drop or I had to make my free drop prior to the draft, I wouldn't know if I could even select him or not or possibly risk dropping Korpisalo to maybe land another tender in the draft.

Just lots to think about.

[Tony]

I also didn't see the teams that are being talked about contraction prior to my previous post. Before possible contract would anyone like to move open to these 2 teams. They were both playoff teams and both teams have a good core and good goaltenders for use. The reverse draft order would then cause some possible issues with our 3 goalie max rule.

For example if I was able to land:
Andrei Vasilevskiy, $3.8m (2019-20), I would want him over say Joonas Korpisalo, $3.2m (2022-23) but if there was no free drop or I had to make my free drop prior to the draft, I wouldn't know if I could even select him or not or possibly risk dropping Korpisalo to maybe land another tender in the draft.

Just lots to think about.

I hope we don’t rush this decision as well. We have time.

As for the goalie max issue. You should be able to take a goalie and be over your maximum as long as you drop, buyout Or trade one before the new season starts.

[Anthony]

I keep going back and forth on this. In any situation we would have to rethink our max contract rule, as well as the minimum contract length rule. With the level of talent, I could see a non contenting team throwing 20m for 1 year to Draisaitl and then extending at a regular rate next year. On the other hand, if we kept the 10m max contract, it's just first come first serve which also isn't fair.

I'm against a draft. It gives way too much value into being bad and tanking. To the argument that the rich would only get richer: free agency always benenfits teams with more cap space and theres a strong corelation with bad teams and having a lot of cap space.

[SlackJack]

I love the nitty gritty details and fully agree we don't have to rush anything. But my focus with contraction remains big picture. Do we have a full slate of active participating GM's and /or is it likely that we will moving forward. It's hard not to make the case that we have had empty seats and MIA GM's for the last couple of years now. Over that time we have lost core members, some of which that were foundational to the league. So in a nutshell I'd say contraction let's us consolidate and build from strength. Last, I'm coming at this from a good place and with renewed energy. If I can help by moving to either DET or NYR just PM me.