Get Rid of the Trade Committee

[hank]

Chris,

I am good with your post.  I do need to say that prior to coming to profsl, I was in a league on proboards where we had league wide vote, it was not a good setup.  Trades took forever to process and people teamed up against trades.  Better people here. I am fine with change, but not a fan of league wide vote.

I agree!

[molinator]

A side note, in New Era we use a league wide. We have done that for about 2 years now.

The league has 20 members and 5 vetoes kills the trade.

During the offseason it is tough to get votes tho, during the season no real issue.

My only advice would be to have a person designated to send a league pm when I trade is posted

 

[papps]

Something needs to be done here.  We need the commish to step in and come up with a plan.  There is a trade sitting on the board for five days now with two votes.  If the TC doesn't have time or won't vote we need to get rid of it.  I am for a league wide panel of votes.  I know there are pros and cons to this but the activity in this league has been getting worse and worse and I know its frustrating a few other owners in here.  I understand that people are busy as am I which is why it makes more sense to get to league wide.  Maybe it will drum up more activity.  At the very least if a TC member doesn't vote within 72 hours of a trade then their vote no longer counts.  We need to do something.  I know its the offseason but trades that sit on the board hold up other potential moves.  We have had some good ideas in here, we need to get some changes going.

[shooter47]

Something needs to be done here.  We need the commish to step in and come up with a plan.  There is a trade sitting on the board for five days now with two votes.  If the TC doesn't have time or won't vote we need to get rid of it.  I am for a league wide panel of votes.  I know there are pros and cons to this but the activity in this league has been getting worse and worse and I know its frustrating a few other owners in here.  I understand that people are busy as am I which is why it makes more sense to get to league wide.  Maybe it will drum up more activity.  At the very least if a TC member doesn't vote within 72 hours of a trade then their vote no longer counts.  We need to do something.  I know its the offseason but trades that sit on the board hold up other potential moves.  We have had some good ideas in here, we need to get some changes going.

Currently there is no better option then to continue on with the TC. The system has been in place for many years and there will always be those that don't like it. I will have to take a long look at ways we can improve it. Right now though I can't control the current members that are on the TC and whether they vote on a deal in a timely fashion or not. I will look at the current makeup of the TC to see if anyone needs to be replaced due to inactivity.

Shooter

[joeshmoe]

We should figure out the RC before making changes to the TC.  RC should be based on a ranked vote by the GMs as a whole. Too much power is granted to the Commish to amend and appoint.

[VolsRaysBucs]

I'm in this boat. Just need to make sure TC understand parameters for vetoing. "You could've gotten more" isn't a good reason. With varying salaries and caps and prospects in a league like this there are a lot of factors to consider other than strictly the talent involved so trades are very specific to a team's roster construction or owner's future plan. So trades should only be vetoed on what looks like extreme negligence or collusion IMO.

this thread, as I was going to start a new/similar one but this seems to fit the narrative just fine.  Simply put, there needs to be a set of parameters that the TC abides by when voting on trades.  Just recently, 10% of the league (3 owners) had trades vetoed because of the whims of the personalities of the TC.  This, after weeks of complaining about the activity level of the league?!? "One man's trash is another man's treasure" can not be better exemplified than in the fantasy game.  For GM's to have to hope and pray, sometimes after hours of work, that their deal appeases the palate of those on the TC is ludicrous and an indictment of the system.  Some may call this sour grapes, call it what you will...but I can't recall a trade being vetoed where a team in cap trouble was GAINING cap space AND WINNING the return on points.  That is simply a TC voting based on their opinion of the return based on personal preference, not based on whether the trade was made in good faith or whether the trade is bad for the health of the league.  The power of the TC is far too subjective in this league and something needs to be addressed.  To be made to craft a trade that satisfies the tastes of all 7-8 members of the TC is unrealistic and damaging to the idea of a league with variable caps, etc.  It is not one-size fits all here gang.  I love this league and want to see it do well, but I also value my time far too much to invest fiduciary time into something that can be undone based on the arbitrary and undefined power of a select few.  Getting off my horse now, watch me stick the landing...

[indiansnation]

OK here is my 2cents worth I hate to say this but the tc isn't as bad as everyone thinks the one thing I think should be done is cutting it down. I don't see why wee needb8 people on it.

[joeshmoe]

The problem, I agree, is that TC members have no target for good and bad. Its a subjective process. If the purpose of the TC is to limit collusion, it will have different standards than if the TC were designed to keep parity. 

The RC should help by clarifying the roles of the TC.