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Fantasy Leagues => Armchair Fantasy Baseball: Transactions => Armchair Fantasy Baseball => MLB Leagues => Armchair Fantasy Baseball: Invalid Transactions => Topic started by: Jmarkey on March 23, 2024, 02:57:19 PM
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KC came looking to get rid of a bad contract with Jordan Diaz. This deal takes $25 Million off of his books for the next 4 seasons which I'm able to work into my cap space. In addition to the cap savings benefit, I send over a couple young guns with potential as well as a bevy of end-of-draft picks in order to get International Funds and early picks for next year. One rebuilding team helping another.
Great back and forth. Best of luck to the Royals.
KC Sends:
3B Jordan Diaz - 7,000,000 (7M owed through '27)
3,000,000 to 2024's Contract
Next Year Round 2 Pick
Next Year Round 3 Pick
Next Year Round 4 Pick
$4M in Next Year's Intl Funds
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CIN Sends:
OF Oscar Gonzalez
UT Kaden Polcovich Prospect
2024 10th round pick
2024 11th round pick
2024 12th round pick
2024 13th round pick
2024 14th round pick
2024 15th round pick
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KC confirms, this trade eliminates our last bad contract on the books and gives us high levels of financial flexibility moving forward. I am a believer in Oscar Gonzales, albeit probably one of the few, and I'd rather put my chips on him taking a leap than Diaz who fumbled a wide open competition in Oakland. We also add another infield prospect in Polkovich.
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:iatp:
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Veto.
This is the kind of deal that can cripple a rebuild.
KC is surrendering too many assets to clear 7m in cap and you can only dream on so much production from Oscar Gonzalez.
KC giving up mid round picks instead of early round picks and with significantly less int. Funds being exchanged would make some sense.
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I would definitely argue that it's the total $25 Million that I'm taking over and not just "7" in space. Thus frees him up and locks me down for 4 years with this bas contract.
I got punished for not getting enough in return for taking on a bad contract a month ago and that trade was vetoed and now I'm getting punished for getting too much?
KC gets 6 picks to my 3 and yes mine are higher, but he clearly values quantity and I value top guys based on our draft history the past month.
I really don't see the issue here at all.
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Gonzalez is one season removed from hitting a walk off home-run in the play-offs and he had a strong spring training so far. I would take him over anyone I might have to wait for in the draft next year in rounds 3-4. I also have a second round pick from Seattle so I'm still set in that round. I also don't want anything to do with INT FA after watching how crazy it went down this year so I'll most likely be a candidate to trade my funds every year. I have long said I want to rebuild this team according to my own design and this trade gives me that opportunity with a blank slate for future acquisitions.
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no need for my vote. 1 Veto kills the trade.
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It takes more than one veto to kill a trade even when a committee member is involved
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There are 5 on the TC, when one player is involved then there needs to be 3 approvals to pass it. So 2 vetoes kill the trade.
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Ok that is fine. Why is KC and CIN keep commenting whenever they don't like what someone votes? We don't need to hear anything from you after the trade is accepted.
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Well you apparently do since you aren't aware of how the veto process works. There isn't anything in the rules about not being able to appeal to the remaining trade committee members. I respect alpha's veto, that doesn't mean I can't make my case for why the trade was made.
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We all have the right to defent our trade if someone vetoes it. Not sure what the problem is with further explaining the details.
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I will also say my piece here and veto this trade. These type of trades that ruin the integrity of the league in my honest opinion.
KC is sending higher picks and i feel like the picks going back to him also don't equate the same value. Getting picks in the beginning few rds should garner more value than late rds picks.
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I appreciate the feedback and all. I'm trying to figure out what the "value" is for eating $25M worth of salary. It seems to me that the more established teams aren't valuing that at the same rate as the rookie teams are. I've had deals vetoed now for not getting enough for the money I am eating and now I'm getting vetoed for getting too much in return. Not gonna lie, it's getting very annoying trying to figure out what valuations to put on eating cap. To me it's one way a rebuilding team can offer value to restock quicker by gaining assets with their main source of value compared to veteran teams. If we can't eat cap without getting vetoed all the time then that's just another way that veteran teams can stay on top and push rebuilding teams down and that doesn't sit well with me.
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I think it's an odd trade, I don't think I would do it, but I'm not sure it's veto worthy. I think trade vetoed the other day was a good example, this one might be a little over the line. The committee is supposed to protect the league, not necessarily vetoing trades they think are "bad." Teams should still be free to make odd or bad trades.
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I'm stepping in also this isn't a veto trade. Veto means the trade is so one sided that it's not funny. If u guys our going to veto trades like this by using this as veto. Then there might as well not makes any more because any trade u make will get veto down.