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Fantasy Leagues => Franchise NHL: Transactions => Franchise NHL => NHL Leagues => Franchise NHL: Completed Transactions => Topic started by: hockeyfreak6000 on July 06, 2011, 05:24:25 PM
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Feel free to suggest what you think might help. Anything that has a few yes's will be strongly considered.
One thing that I do want to change is increase the size of the minor league roster from 10 to15.
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Just stay active :thumbsup: LOL
Congrats on the position and I know you will do a great job! :winner:
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I am in for changing the minor system from 10 to 15. I would also like to see us able to trade our minor leaguers without them coming directly to the big club
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I am in for changing the minor system from 10 to 15. I would also like to see us able to trade our minor leaguers without them coming directly to the big club
:iatp:
Better organized team pages. Example (http://www.profsl.com/smf/index.php?topic=15505.0)
Faster processing of trades, free agents, etc.
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I approve/agree of Jesse's and Papps posts
Im soooo loving Drew's idea, no smack in the face or anything, i just find the other way much easier to keep track of cap, players, and processing of stuff....I love processing trades on the rosters and found the other format stellar for doing that!!
Just my opinion, Im always happy with anything thO!!!
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team pages would look much more neat even if it was just tweaked a bit.
E.g.
Forwards
C Eric Belanger, $0.2m (2011-2012)
C Marcel Goc, $2m (2013-2014)
C Andrew Murray, $0.4m (2012-2013)
LW Paul Bissonnette, $0.6m (2011-2012)
LW Taylor Pyatt, $1.1m (2011-2012)
LW Ray Whitney, $3m (2011-2012)
LW Wojtek Wolski, $3.8m (2011-2012)
RW Shane Doan, $4.6m (2011-2012)
RW Viktor Tikhonov, $0.5m (P-2012)
Defenseman
D Adrian Aucoin, $2m (2011-2012)
D Derek Morris, $2.8m (2013-2014)
D Kurt Sauer, $1.8m (2011-2012)
D David Schlemko, $0.5m (P-2012)
D Oliver Ekman-Larsson, $2m (P-2012)
It is simple fix.
- Im fine with the minor rosters the way they are.
- processing transactions needs to be much faster.
That is my 2 cents. :thumbsup:
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Me and gilly are working on changeing the roster format as we speak.
We are also changeing how the minor league roster works(size and about aquireing players)
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Will be great, be patient, we all know how particular I am about the rosters being updated!!
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team pages would look much more neat even if it was just tweaked a bit.
E.g.
Forwards
C Eric Belanger, $0.2m (2011-2012)
C Marcel Goc, $2m (2013-2014)
C Andrew Murray, $0.4m (2012-2013)
LW Paul Bissonnette, $0.6m (2011-2012)
LW Taylor Pyatt, $1.1m (2011-2012)
LW Ray Whitney, $3m (2011-2012)
LW Wojtek Wolski, $3.8m (2011-2012)
RW Shane Doan, $4.6m (2011-2012)
RW Viktor Tikhonov, $0.5m (P-2012)
Defenseman
D Adrian Aucoin, $2m (2011-2012)
D Derek Morris, $2.8m (2013-2014)
D Kurt Sauer, $1.8m (2011-2012)
D David Schlemko, $0.5m (P-2012)
D Oliver Ekman-Larsson, $2m (P-2012)
It is simple fix.
- Im fine with the minor rosters the way they are.
- processing transactions needs to be much faster.
That is my 2 cents. :thumbsup:
It is a simple fix without using a spreadsheet. However, in an attempt at organization, I did go with an excel page. I have limited knowledge of the code though, and largely went with what I had. I agree there are better ways to do it, but it worked in Franchise MLB which is where I had adopted it from.
You guys will do great!
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Can we add TOI?
This gives fantasy relevence for defensive players like Regehr who every team needs, are on the ice for the important minutes but generate few stats.
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team pages would look much more neat even if it was just tweaked a bit.
E.g.
Forwards
C Eric Belanger, $0.2m (2011-2012)
C Marcel Goc, $2m (2013-2014)
C Andrew Murray, $0.4m (2012-2013)
LW Paul Bissonnette, $0.6m (2011-2012)
LW Taylor Pyatt, $1.1m (2011-2012)
LW Ray Whitney, $3m (2011-2012)
LW Wojtek Wolski, $3.8m (2011-2012)
RW Shane Doan, $4.6m (2011-2012)
RW Viktor Tikhonov, $0.5m (P-2012)
Defenseman
D Adrian Aucoin, $2m (2011-2012)
D Derek Morris, $2.8m (2013-2014)
D Kurt Sauer, $1.8m (2011-2012)
D David Schlemko, $0.5m (P-2012)
D Oliver Ekman-Larsson, $2m (P-2012)
It is simple fix.
- Im fine with the minor rosters the way they are.
- processing transactions needs to be much faster.
That is my 2 cents. :thumbsup:
The Forwards/defenseman idea is very simple and would work great. IMO
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Can we add TOI?
This gives fantasy relevence for defensive players like Regehr who every team needs, are on the ice for the important minutes but generate few stats.
This is a great idea as well. I use it in my league to give the more defensive defenseman more value. :thumbsup:
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This is a great idea as well. I use it in my league to give the more defensive defenseman more value. :thumbsup:
I agree with this wholeheartedly. Defensive D-Men or guys on the 4th line who play a lot of PK have little value in Fantasy, but are huge parts to a team's success. TOI points would be awesome.
It may get a little too complicated, but I wouldn't even mind seeing points for TOI on the PK... I think it would allow each team to have more depth. A guy like Blair Betts who doesn't score have many goals or assists but is a beast on the PK would have a lot more value.
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Can we get a retirement clause?
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The problem I see with making a stat for TOI is the players that play 20+ mins a night are not the 4th line guys so they become less valuable then they are now. It helps with the Defensive dmen but hurts when it comes to the 3rd and 4th liners
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The problem I see with making a stat for TOI is the players that play 20+ mins a night are not the 4th line guys so they become less valuable then they are now. It helps with the Defensive dmen but hurts when it comes to the 3rd and 4th liners
It is also an inflated stats. It does not reflect actual ability. Merely this; somebody has to play those minutes...where as goals, assists, +/-, hits, fights, etc are all attributed to the players actual play.
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1 major thing that will lead to parity and more competitive play... reduce # of teams OR pause league activities while replacing team managers.
Otherwise, the existing teams will poach all the talent before new managers arrive.
it simply doesn't create a competitive league, instead it penalized new managers.
Reason:
if the league continues to function at 100%, trades, temp managers, FA signings, etc. before the league is 100% filled/vacated teams replaced, the level of play will be completely skewed to the teams that are here longest.
Example:
as much as I love a good challenge, the Panthers team I've inherited was purged, all the point producing/value players traded off + for some reason the temp manager accepted bad contracts like Gervais $4m+, Dipietro lifetime contract at $4.5m
Thinking about pausing activities, especially since there's lots of "down time" during the Summer months.
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1 major thing that will lead to parity and more competitive play... reduce # of teams OR pause league activities while replacing team managers.
Otherwise, the existing teams will poach all the talent before new managers arrive.
it simply doesn't create a competitive league, instead it penalized new managers.
Reason:
if the league continues to function at 100%, trades, temp managers, FA signings, etc. before the league is 100% filled/vacated teams replaced, the level of play will be completely skewed to the teams that are here longest.
Example:
as much as I love a good challenge, the Panthers team I've inherited was purged, all the point producing/value players traded off + for some reason the temp manager accepted bad contracts like Gervais $4m+, Dipietro lifetime contract at $4.5m
Thinking about pausing activities, especially since there's lots of "down time" during the Summer months.
A lot of what you're talking about happened because the teams did have managers. We can't contract either, as the purpose of the league is to emulate the NHL. Sometimes teams are so bad the only way to rebuild is through the draft!
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i hear you RE sometimes teams are so bad...
but tracing back to this Panthers team, they apparently did OK last season finishing something like Top10, lost its' manager, added a temp mgr for 3wks and now there's zero trace of assets left on the team and some really questionable + bad contracts added (perhaps I'm unique in that I've never seen someone trade for Dipietro even in deep contract leagues)
in this case, it would've been better to pause league activities instead of allowing temp managers to gut a viable team, turning it into a 1-2 yrs rebuild.
in the end, by pausing league activities during manager searches - it helps create more league parity which is more exciting and competitive vs powerhouses plowin' though weak teams for seasons on end.
a 2nd suggestion, dispersal draft for new incoming managers to allow for assets to be recalibrated.
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i hear you RE sometimes teams are so bad...
but tracing back to this Panthers team, they apparently did OK last season finishing something like Top10, lost its' manager, added a temp mgr for 3wks and now there's zero trace of assets left on the team and some really questionable + bad contracts added (perhaps I'm unique in that I've never seen someone trade for Dipietro even in deep contract leagues)
in this case, it would've been better to pause league activities instead of allowing temp managers to gut a viable team, turning it into a 1-2 yrs rebuild.
in the end, by pausing league activities during manager searches - it helps create more league parity which is more exciting and competitive vs powerhouses plowin' though weak teams for seasons on end.
a 2nd suggestion, dispersal draft for new incoming managers to allow for assets to be recalibrated.
see now i usally keep quiet as i dont like to speak about things cause i get fired up lol but i do have too say ur panthers team wasnt all that before the temp gm was in office for those 3 weeks or so. he was looking at the team too get younger and to build through the next couple of drafts too be that powerhouse u talk about. now i see ur opinion on the goalie cause not many people are high on the guy but he may of been part of a deal that got u younger or got u a draft pick. the temp gm u had is no dummy and if he made the move there was a viable reason behind it and i know he would not gut a team to do bad. my only thing i ask u is look into the reasonings a little deeper before u assume anything and i know this is just a free fantasy game but a lot of people on here have become close friends of mine and i could stand back and let u try to run his strategy into the ground. and no im not trying to start drama just could watch pigs keep it up. i give u my word buddy that he wasnt trying to gut the team in his brain he had a plan to make this team become younger and an eventual powerhouse for so many years. sorry for wasting anyones time posting this.
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Wow love the shots taken at me when all I do is help out anyone that pays any attention to the scoring would know that goalies are extremely valuable in this league. The moves I did brought in the best prospect out of both the NYI and Phoenix organizations to make the Panthers a powerhouse in a couple years. Dipietro could easily be the steal of this league if he gets healthy he automatically has a starting job and will play. Starting goalie in this league = CUP
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here's ur follow-up ... since your talking + asking...
FN, i see ur point - i did asked hockeyfreak6000, gilly + Jesse for some insight.
I heard it and given it's subjective, i'll diagree.
1st: building for the future... we're talking fantasy play - so waiting out 1-2yrs to rebuild "through the draft" is painful - if this were a paying gig, fine, but it aint. kills the point of fantasy if the fun-factor is closer to 0 than 10 because your team isn't as competitive.
2nd: no draft picks came back... they were traded away (see be-lo)
3rd: everyone's smart in their own way, but since the plan was only partially executed, it did leave a team somewhat crippled... anyone looking at the cat's roster cringles - especially relative to any team that finished even below the Panthers 11 thru 27...
Florida Panthers New York Islanders Booth, David LW - FLA, $4.3m (2014-2015) ... 147pts
Florida Panthers New York Islanders Wideman, Dennis D - WAS, $3.9m (2011-2012) ... 101pts
Florida Panthers New York Islanders Weiss, Stephen C - FLA, $3.1m (2012-2013) ... 116pts
Florida Panthers New York Islanders Dadonov, Evgeny RW - FLA, $0.9m (2011-2012) - rated 7.0 on prospects site
Florida Panthers New York Islanders Robak, Colby D - FLA, N/C, (0 Games) - rated 7.0 on prospects site
Florida Panthers New York Islanders 2011 - 3rd Round Draft Pick
New York Islanders Florida Panthers DiPietro, Rick G - NYI, , $4.5m (2017-2018) ... 111pts (50th ranked)
New York Islanders Florida Panthers Gervais, Bruno D - TB, $4.1m (2012-2013) ... 19pt + 47pts last 2 yrs
New York Islanders Florida Panthers Niederreiter, Nino RW - NYI - rated 7.5 on prospect site
New York Islanders Florida Panthers de Haan, Calvin D - NYI - rated 7.5 on prospect site
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jesse, it aint personal right. just so we're on the same pg.
the point of my original post is RE: balance, competition + parity.
If you want to build a competitive league, pause activities if you're missing a bunch of managers.
i understand we'd like to mimic the mother league, but given it's virtual world here and the commish here is all powerful and can pause activities while new managers are found, why not.
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i like it the way it is as it keeps me intrested cause i have a reason to come in here in the offseason. if u pause activity u kill that spirit in my opinion. again not trying to be an A-Hole
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... again not trying to be an A-Hole
I dont think that of u buddy... like i said, it's a suggestion with a discussion.
perhaps what helps make my pt is if one of the commish's or a vet league member could confirm how many franchise nhl teams were missing full-time mgrs July1st.
if more than 10-15% of your teams were AWOL July 1st, competition for FA talent is low - that's a key activity for teams to add immediate point producers.
and the double whammy here is, the un-manned teams (looked like 30%) also lost their pending Free agents 'cuz they werent extended/resigned (Thornton, Parise, Heatley, Bryz-y, Vokoun, etc.).
1. strong/manned teams got stronger July 1st
2. weak / un-manned teams got weaker June 25th... lost pending FA's
3. weak teams got nailed again July 1st - unable to compete for FA's
Core Issue: so you end up with a polarized league, and ppl bail because competition is skewed badly by Yr3. it's already noticably skewed in Yr2 wouldnt u say?
Look at Panthers lineup VS Wild/Pens/Bruins... lol
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I dont think that of u buddy... like i said, it's a suggestion with a discussion.
perhaps what helps make my pt is if one of the commish's or a vet league member could confirm how many franchise nhl teams were missing full-time mgrs July1st.
if more than 10-15% of your teams were AWOL July 1st, competition for FA talent is low - that's a key activity for teams to add immediate point producers.
and the double whammy here is, the un-manned teams (looked like 30%) also lost their pending Free agents 'cuz they werent extended/resigned (Thornton, Parise, Heatley, Bryz-y, Vokoun, etc.).
1. strong/manned teams got stronger July 1st
2. weak / un-manned teams got weaker June 25th... lost pending FA's
3. weak teams got nailed again July 1st - unable to compete for FA's
Core Issue: so you end up with a polarized league, and ppl bail because competition is skewed badly by Yr3. it's already noticably skewed in Yr2 wouldnt u say?
Look at Panthers lineup VS Wild/Pens/Bruins... lol
How many free agents did I sign? 1, maybe 2? Trades pal!
It's a fantasy league man, if youre quitting because you're not good right now you're a weak owner. Good!
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Before I respond to the suggestion given, we love all the ideas, myself and Hockeyfreak6000 talk about each, and just to answer this one, there is not a chance I or we will stop/pause the league when a GM quits or is asked to leave the league.
When I post teams available the person or person's signing up are to check out the teams roster and see weather they want to continue and if that team works for them.
This league was going through a rebuild stage and some teams had a set back, in this case a well respected and well sought after hockey GM was hired to help build the team for the future which many do as there not here for 1 season but in this for the long haul. All trades were approved, all moves were to help the team, everything was great.
So to close this, Ive responded to the suggestion which I appreciate the idea (thanks very much :thumbsup:) and I no longer want any more bad mouthing other Gm's over past moves. This is the only warning I will give to anyone, we can discuss but the wording needs to be careful as it can be taken the wrong way and we are not running a trash each other league.
Thank you,
Mike
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boys, don't take it so personally. this is a suggestion box afterall.
thx for the insight. :toast:
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suggestion:
* allow teams to post their Trading Block on their respective team pages.
Pros
convenience - potential trade partners need to access the team page anyway + the mgr can update with modifications + there is a link to the mgr's PM from their TB post.
clean up the trade discussion page, reserve it for
Cons
possible duplication of info from other pages...
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suggestion:
* allow teams to post their Trading Block on their respective team pages.
Pros
convenience - potential trade partners need to access the team page anyway + the mgr can update with modifications + there is a link to the mgr's PM from their TB post.
clean up the trade discussion page, reserve it for
Cons
possible duplication of info from other pages...
Another Con is that it makes it more difficult for the Commissioner here is what I am doing in my league and its sort of the same idea
http://www.profsl.com/smf/index.php?topic=20450.0
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Another Con is that it makes it more difficult for the Commissioner here is what I am doing in my league and its sort of the same idea
http://www.profsl.com/smf/index.php?topic=20450.0
that is good to have too, convenient...
Jesse, what i meant was for individual mgrs to post their own Trade Block list just below their team roster post. definitely not necessary for the commish to create/manage the TB post. agree itd be a make work thing for the commish.
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that is good to have too, convenient...
Jesse, what i meant was for individual mgrs to post their own Trade Block list just below their team roster post. definitely not necessary for the commish to create/manage the TB post. agree itd be a make work thing for the commish.
I understand what you meant because someone in my league asked the same thing but it would be a pain for the commissioner because eventually your roster pages will be 10+ pages long as some people don't understand to edit posts instead of starting new ones so we figure this way would be easier for the Commissioner and easier for the GM's
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Watching the goalie bidding wars and Q popped up... especially with Bryzgalov currently at $12M over 5 years...
Have any commissioners considered limiting goalies per team (hoarding) ... some teams have 3 starters in a 30 team league so youre forcing teams to
1) play 8 mths in the cellar ... like having a coma
2) putting the Have Nots into a state of being virtual farm clubs for the Haves
3) overall league parity is skewed to 50% of teams how have a starting goalie, or 3...
4) huge Glen Sather-like contracts that will cripple teams if the player gets hurt or doesnt live up to their 1st yr success (Crawford could be the next Mason)
5) could lead to teams abandoning their team if the playing field is forever tilted... (who plays fantasy in rebuild mode for more than 1 yr)
thoughts a rule to limit goalies per team...
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I will discuss with Peter (Hockeyfreak6000) about the goalie stuff and post an answer by the end of today!!
Thanks
Mike
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Watching the goalie bidding wars and Q popped up... especially with Bryzgalov currently at $12M over 5 years...
Have any commissioners considered limiting goalies per team (hoarding) ... some teams have 3 starters in a 30 team league so youre forcing teams to
1) play 8 mths in the cellar ... like having a coma
2) putting the Have Nots into a state of being virtual farm clubs for the Haves
3) overall league parity is skewed to 50% of teams how have a starting goalie, or 3...
4) huge Glen Sather-like contracts that will cripple teams if the player gets hurt or doesnt live up to their 1st yr success (Crawford could be the next Mason)
5) could lead to teams abandoning their team if the playing field is forever tilted... (who plays fantasy in rebuild mode for more than 1 yr)
thoughts a rule to limit goalies per team...
This is the most difficult issue in the league. There are a few ways to handle it:
A) Leave as is, let the market play itself out.
B) Adjust goalie scoring downward, probably most realistic.
C) Assign goalies based upon actual teams. This is my least favorite option as it dictates certain points, and real league clubs don't always have the best personnel.
D) Contraction, which is also unattractive as the purpose of the league is to imitate the real NHL.
There could be more I'm missing.
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I like opitions "a" and "b"...."c" and "d" I don't like for this league like you said!!
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How about a trading night - say Wed evenings beta 19h - 22h, anyone who wants to talk trade can find others online. Might help grease deals and move things along or spark a new deal.
Options:
1) mandatory for everyone but only hold x1 monthly
2) optional, weekly on Wed's
etc.
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More of a question than a suggestion.
How are the divisions aligned in this league? Are they like the NHL with 2 conferences and 6 Divisions? That would be cool!
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2 things that I think would add good depth to our player pool:
Players should earn 1/2 a point for every 6 mins of Ice Time
Players should earn 1/4 point for every faceoff win
I think this would add more value to role-playing guys... players who play on the 4th line and the PK currently have almost no value because their offensive opportunities are limited, and their plus/minus numbers generally aren't that great.
Guys like Blair Betts come to mind - he's injured this year, but the last few years with the Flyers, he was a face-off specialist, and played a ton of PK minutes. This idea takes a player who is very valuable to a real life NHL team, and makes him valuable to the team's fantasy counterpart.
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TOI scoring wouldn't just make the depth players more value, it would make the Superstars super valuable with the amount of ice time they get on regular shifts and special teams. I think stats like Hits and Blocked shots are sufficient. But that's just me and I'm not even part of this league yet.
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It would also increase the value of Defensemen as well... A good stay at home defensemen will only score 6-7 goals a year, but will rack up tons if ice time...
Even superstar forwards only rack up about 19-20 mins a night, whereas some top-d pairings rack up 24-26 mins a game.
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Make a list of players in each conference so I can easily search who is a FA. Since i have to look at each persons roster to find out who is available it makes it not worth it.
This would help alot.
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Make a list of players in each conference so I can easily search who is a FA. Since i have to look at each persons roster to find out who is available it makes it not worth it.
This would help alot.
Just have a master list with every team in it. Pretty simple
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Nice thinking gents :) loving it :)
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After the draft, we should be able to sign a 1 Undrafted player directly to our minor league rosters.
I tend to do a lot of research come draft time, and a few players I like go undrafted, but I certainly don't want to waste the cap space to sign a guy to my Major League Roster who won't play for 2-4 years.
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Perhaps we should consider expanding the minor league roster before the next Draft.
It seems a good number of teams are at the 13/13 maximum for prospects and with 4 rounds of picks to be added we'll either have to prematurely drop or sign prospects that are not ready to play at the NHL level for another few years.
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Hire me on for Admin duties!
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Chris,
PM me & Peter about that and lets see what we can work out :)
:toast:
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to make things a little more interesting and advanced, we should consider "offer sheets"...
how it works:
*Eligibility: Offer Sheets can only be submitted for players with an expiring Rookie Contract (thus the need to designate/differentiate these rookie contracts from regular contracts).
*Mechanics:
- The team that owns the expiring rc contract posts an extension.
- Any of the other 29 teams wanting to counter that extension
(due to the player's value, position scarcity, or they just love that player, etc.)
can post a counter offer of > value
- limit the offer sheet window
- exclusive extensive period for expiring rc contracts to handle this
- proposed rules around "offer sheeting" can be similar to NHL
EX. For 2011, a team signing a restricted free agent to a contract worth more than $7,835,219 per season loses four first-round picks to the player's old team.
For a contract worth $6,268,176 or more per year, the acquiring team gives up two first-round picks, one second rounder, and one third.
There are another four levels of compensation, going down to a contract worth up to $1,034,249 per year, for which there is no compensation.
EX. in FNHL, offer sheet over $X Million = compensation of 1st + 2nd round picks or 1 player off opposing team's roster. etc. more details TBD.
WHY Offer Sheets to expiring RC contracts:
- additional strategy in cap league
- teams must offer decent value to high-end young guns exiting a "preferred contract" aka their rc contract.
- add new level of risk to contracts for in-demand players team would want to build a team around (ie... would someone offer sheet RNH, likely... how about Tuukka Rask or Brad Marchand, likely yeah!)
- in a 30 team league where players/assets can be scarce, this is another way for player movement (in addition to trades, FA, buyouts, etc.)
* Needs more fleshing out but that's the prelim. suggestion in a nutshell! :toast:
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given teams have 4 draft picks annually, the MiLR gets full fast (for a true MiLR, 20-25 spots would be a good #).
however, to gradually increase the #s, you could:
* increase by 2 for a total 15 MiLR spots as of the start of Draft 2012.
* then increase again by 5 for total of 20 MiLR spots by Dec 2012 so heading into the trade deadline.
leaves teams with plenty of time to move Draft Picks and Prospects around as needed to position themselves for playoff drive or the 2013 off-season.
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as with Dynasty or was it Backyard NHL and many Baseball leagues, allow owners to customize their MiL team name using logos with established profsl BBC (existing codes).
ex. my Florida Panthers could have a MiLR called
Red River Blue Jays :TOR-MLB:
Key Biscayne Pirates :TAM:
Nominingue Mighty Ducks :MDA:
* just another way for an owner to personalize their FNHL experience.
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i know this has been brought up before...
use Trade Blocks on the team page as a 2nd post
how to: since all team pgs are open for reply, a team's owner can just reply to the team pg post and create a Trade Block using this proposed template:
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Trade Block (as of July 17/12 @ 2:20pm)
C, Zack Smith, $3.5m (2014-2015)
D, Oliver Ekman-Larsson, $5.6m (2015-2016)
D, Alex Pietrangelo, $6.8m (2015-2016)
Looking for via trade:
Prospects
Centers
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Note: other benefits, owners can also use that space for team notes to themselves to help them track their team activities. also, the post is time stamped so you know if the trade block is current or not.
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i have seen numerous rule changes in various leagues being imposed or take effect almost immediately which is a big turn-off.
i suggestion any new rule changes be implemented down the line, at least 30-day out or after key activity dates (draft, FA, start of reg. season, etc.). most should be for the following season.
it just helps with a league's stability when things aren't changing on the fly.
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here's an old idea joeshmoe brought up Nov.4'10... Awards + Incentives
http://www.profsl.com/smf/index.php?topic=11641.0
rebel nhl uses awards (derived from final standings results) to offer discounts on FA signings.
perhaps the awards in FNHL should be for
most trades
most FA signings
most FNHL transactions
etc.
just starting the thinking, or picking up where joeshmoe / chris left off.
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another old idea from Teddy369 back in Nov18'10...
http://www.profsl.com/smf/index.php?topic=12577.0
he suggested designating 2 Franchise Players per team and those players getting a "hometown" discount.
this should be a no-brainer for a league called Franchise NHL.
it's exactly the "twist" this league should have that makes it slightly different, more unique relative to the other leagues.
i strongly recommend this.
how to:
- assign 2 players
- Franchise Player gets 15% hometown discount to their team
- tag the Franchise Players on team roster page.
- value is only for current team
- if traded the Franchise players loses the designation and his contract goes back to actual value (no longer discounted)
let's implement this for the start of the regular season in Oct'12.
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here's an old idea joeshmoe brought up Nov.4'10... Awards + Incentives
http://www.profsl.com/smf/index.php?topic=11641.0
rebel nhl uses awards (derived from final standings results) to offer discounts on FA signings.
perhaps the awards in FNHL should be for
most trades
most FA signings
most FNHL transactions
etc.
just starting the thinking, or picking up where joeshmoe / chris left off.
I would say stick to performance based awards instead of activity driven.
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i know this has been brought up before...
use Trade Blocks on the team page as a 2nd post
how to: since all team pgs are open for reply, a team's owner can just reply to the team pg post and create a Trade Block using this proposed template:
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Trade Block (as of July 17/12 @ 2:20pm)
C, Zack Smith, $3.5m (2014-2015)
D, Oliver Ekman-Larsson, $5.6m (2015-2016)
D, Alex Pietrangelo, $6.8m (2015-2016)
Looking for via trade:
Prospects
Centers
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Note: other benefits, owners can also use that space for team notes to themselves to help them track their team activities. also, the post is time stamped so you know if the trade block is current or not.
I did this in Backyard and it seems to work alright. Trade blocks don't get changed alot so either way works.
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as with Dynasty or was it Backyard NHL and many Baseball leagues, allow owners to customize their MiL team name using logos with established profsl BBC (existing codes).
ex. my Florida Panthers could have a MiLR called
Red River Blue Jays :TOR-MLB:
Key Biscayne Pirates :TAM:
Nominingue Mighty Ducks :MDA:
* just another way for an owner to personalize their FNHL experience.
The only reason I am opposed to this is because I found this to be a unique addition I made to Backyard. Rather not have these small things stolen but if everyone else wishes to do so I guess I didn't trademark the idea haha.
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given teams have 4 draft picks annually, the MiLR gets full fast (for a true MiLR, 20-25 spots would be a good #).
however, to gradually increase the #s, you could:
* increase by 2 for a total 15 MiLR spots as of the start of Draft 2012.
* then increase again by 5 for total of 20 MiLR spots by Dec 2012 so heading into the trade deadline.
leaves teams with plenty of time to move Draft Picks and Prospects around as needed to position themselves for playoff drive or the 2013 off-season.
I think teams should just have to choose. 15 is well enough as it covers your draft picks from almost 4 years back unless you hoard but if a player hasn't made it in 4 years in your minor league, it may be time to give up on him.
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RFAs would be something cool to add.
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imitation is the greatest form of flattery, dross. :thumbsup:
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disagree there... 4 yrs means age 22yrs and most guys don't make it at that age. in fact, the top 10 draft picks might make it within 3-4yrs of the draft but most take 5+ yrs to round into pro form.
goalies take forever to develop.
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given the high turnover during FNHL's 1st 2 seasons, we should reward + encourage activity vs performance. anyway, in fantasy play... performance should motivate ppl enough.
hockey on Profsl.com is still in it's infancy and needs to be helped along to attract knowledgeable + active members.
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i strongly suggest another new item on team pgs, history + management info.
i was looking for logos and noticed Colby's Pitt Moneyball team pg with a Team History and Management post. that's a great idea.
why is it good?
- it's another customizable element for team pgs in Franchise.
- for obvious reasons, tracks a teams existence... why it's good (active) or bad (due to turnover + poor trades)
- tracks who's acct'able for success or mess :lol: ... relevant!
- each owner tells their own story
- another advanced fantasy element for this league
EXAMPLE: here's what i dropped into :FLO:'s team history post...
Florida Panthers :FLO:
2011-12: Stanley Cup Finalist / 2nd Overall; 1st in Eastern Conference / 1st in Southeast Division (18-4)
First year GM, PigsRule led Florida to the Cup Finals losing to :MIN-NHL:. The turnaround of the crippled Panthers franchise which lost Vokoun to free agency, dealt away franchise mainstays Weiss, Booth and Wideman plusbeing saddled with Dipietro's large and lengthy contract was possible due to numerous key deals which brought in new core players to build around such as Franzen, Michalek (eventually dealt to :EDM: for Hartnell), Phaneuf and Fleury. Key 2011 free agent signings such as McGinn, C.Smith, I.White, Roloson and Budaj also boosted the team's performance during the season. In the Post-Season, the :FLO: defeated :NYI: (Rd1), :BOS-NHL: (Rd2), :TBL: (Semi-Finals) eventually bowing to :MIN-NHL: in the Stanely Cup Finals. Florida's 2011-12 results proved a team could be re-built in one season.
2010-11: 8th Overall; 5th Eastern Conference / 2nd Southeast Division (record ???)
Round 1 Playoff loss to 4th seed :TOR-NHL:.
Management
PigsRule (http://profsl.com/smf/index.php?action=profile;u=1602) July 21, 2011 - present
Jesse (http://profsl.com/smf/index.php?action=profile;u=997) June 29 - July 14, 2011
Shooter47 (http://profsl.com/smf/index.php?action=profile;u=1260) March ??? - May ???, 2011
R.A. Dickey 43 (http://profsl.com/smf/index.php?action=profile;u=777) November 9, 2010 - February ???, 2011
[ prior ??? ]
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i propose we limit entry of new mgrs and start rehabilitating some of the existing teams that have gone thru multiple owners in 1 season. :CHI-NHL: and :CBJ: come to mind as 2 teams in need of some rehab'ing or TLC!
how it works:
Executive Committee (a highly active group) manage the team(s) thru FA and the 1st month or 2 of the season. bidding on players, trading for assets, restocking the farm whenever possible... generally competing for assets the team needs to be rebuilt.
once we feel the team is in good shape, it can only be turned over to a incoming owner that is referred to the league from a known + active franchise nhl owner.
this should not be a beginner league for non-hockey people.
as the ONLY 30-team league, this should be the advanced league.
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All topics/matters to be reviewed and discussed among the Commissioners, Executive Committee + Rules Committee.
Once reviewed and an action agreed to, topic will be locked.
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Not sure if this has been suggested but it looks like this league is facing a similar issue to Dynasty where Defense extensions are way to high compare to their output.
Consolidate all skaters into one long extension list and goalies on their own.
D, RW, C, whatever they are will fall into what the perspective value is based on their Fpts production. Its simple and straight forward, (i know what your thinking "we want to be complicated")
I already brought this idea up to pigs, which is limit the active roster to 1 goalie. , there are 30 teams, and not even 30 true starting goalies in the nhl when you take into account the tandems. level the playing field between goalies and forwards.
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Not sure if this has been suggested but it looks like this league is facing a similar issue to Dynasty where Defense extensions are way to high compare to their output.
it's a great pt & the co-commish of FNHL SizzRat has already tabled a new extension list that addresses the relatively hi-extension cost of Dmen... see here
http://www.profsl.com/smf/index.php?topic=63260.msg338545#msg338545
implementation of new rates for Dmen will be TBD not immediately. :toast:
Consolidate all skaters into one long extension list and goalies on their own.
D, RW, C, whatever they are will fall into what the perspective value is based on their Fpts production. Its simple and straight forward, (i know what your thinking "we want to be complicated")
i think your last line holds true in most fantasy hky leagues, commish + teams generally like differentiating betw Fwds + D.
I already brought this idea up to pigs, which is limit the active roster to 1 goalie. , there are 30 teams, and not even 30 true starting goalies in the nhl when you take into account the tandems. level the playing field between goalies and forwards.
i'll be lobbying for this revision to the rules and will target a 2013-14 implementation date if we get FNHL exec consensus... your input will be important as well snugerud! it's also a huge deterrant for new members who want to join a deep 30-team league -
BTW, congratulations for stepping up to the challenge of taking over a goalie-less team in the :NYI: ! :toast: i was in the same boat last season after the team allowed Vokoun to walk when there was no GM in place for my :FLO: ... a few trades here n there and we're starting Roberto.
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Now that I have had a chance to look through fantrax a bit and see what the scoring is like there is even a bigger discrepancy on Goalies over forwards. The number one goalie scores almost twice as many points as the #1 forward. If goalies werent already a major commodity with 2 actives, this makes it even more lopsided. I might build a team of just goalies , ha ha.
1 G Rinne, Pekka - NAS FA 479.75 6.57
1 C Stamkos, Steven - TB FA 256.9 3.13
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also to give more value to dmen, i saw a few posts recommending toi. Why not use blocked shots , its a little less ambiguous than TOI and is mostly a stat scored to Dmen. You could count it same as hits. .25 . Guys like Girardi would make a big up tick in stats collected.
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also to give more value to dmen, i saw a few posts recommending toi. Why not use blocked shots , its a little less ambiguous than TOI and is mostly a stat scored to Dmen. You could count it same as hits. .25. Guys like Girardi would make a big up tick in stats collected.
:iatp:
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I also saw a suggestion of stating face off wins. You could do Face off wins and losses giving a double edge to centers, although a good faceoff man is 65% so you may need to weight wins a little heavier than losses or you risk devaluing the centers.
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We should have a FNHL league night when all teams try to get online at the same time to get more trades going.
I was in a league that did that every Friday but of course everyone except me was 20 years old. LOL Needless to say I have slightly more elaborate plans for Friday nights. :thumbsup:
How about Trading Tuesdays and whoever is interested can find other likeminded dealing teams online that evening.
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How about Trading Tuesdays and whoever is interested can find other likeminded dealing teams online that evening.
i like the idea however will not make it an official activity. however, any GM is welcome to organize that get together and schedule it and send invites, etc.
go for it. :thumbsup:
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Have we decided to let the goalie issue role the way it is? It would be nice to know approaching trades and FA , i am hesitant to make a big trade for a goalie with the idea that big changes could come that would devalue them.
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Have we decided to let the goalie issue role the way it is? It would be nice to know approaching trades and FA , i am hesitant to make a big trade for a goalie with the idea that big changes could come that would devalue them.
short ans: yes, but it's not immediate. target 2013-14 introduction of the rule change on goalies.
longer ans: sudden or in-season rule changes that are not absolutely necessary or are extremely invasive to how ppl execute their strategy will not be something i do (i won't say never, but it hasn't happened to date in the leagues i've run since 2008).
we'll go thru a process of awareness, discussion, debate & negotiation and then arrive at a final decision on a rule change for goalies by the end of October 2012 (ETA).
even when we decide on what the change is, there will be a gradual phasing in of the change over a period of time as it does impact scoring, rosters, team caps league-wide.
we'll start the discussion later this wk (possibly early nxt wk) now that FNHL is nearly at 100% capacity. :toast:
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Can we have our rookie rosters posted into fantrax, so we dont confuse them for free agents?
I know it can be done as other nhl fantrax leagues im in have it
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Can we have our rookie rosters posted into fantrax, so we dont confuse them for free agents?
I know it can be done as other nhl fantrax leagues im in have it
... in FNHL we don't keep MiLR players on Fnatrax rosters to avoid debates/incidents over accidentally starting a MiLR player during a scoring period before he's officially promoted to the parent club.
get familiar with the targeted search feature to check rosters.