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Re: Anaheim and Vancouver make a deal
« Reply #10 on: October 31, 2013, 07:34:53 PM »
As Walt stated I can't justify passing this trade with Enroth as a starter. This would be a package that would bring back a #1 that is a #1 and is near the elite level. Looking back to the Rinne trade that was exactly the package that needed to be received both ways.
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Anaheim and Vancouver make a deal
« Reply #11 on: October 31, 2013, 08:32:32 PM »
Ok so

2 yes
2 no

Tony and Hf47 to vote

Will it make a difference to the veto vote of Drew and Favo if I remove a pick?
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Re: Anaheim and Vancouver make a deal
« Reply #12 on: November 01, 2013, 06:24:59 AM »
I hate to veto trades so I will offer a solution instead. This is the way I see it.


:ANA: Cedrick Desjardins, $0.2m (2013-14)
 Round 4 :ANA:
for
:VAN: Nick Bjugstad, $0.2m (2014-15)

Bjugstad still has solid NHL potential and Gilly trades his rights for a goalie that might see some NHL starts and a future prospect in the draft. 
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:ANA: Zach Bogosian, $3.2m (2015-16)
for
:VAN: Niklas Hjalmarsson, $1.4m (2014-15)

Bogosian does have more fantasy upside but is twice the price.
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:ANA: Jhonas Enroth, $1.2m (2014-15)
for
:VAN: Mason Raymond, $2.0m (2013-14)
Round 1 :DAL-NHL2:
Round 1 :MIN-NHL:
Round 2 :VAN:

This is where I see it getting a little one sided and really hurting Vancouver's future. Too many high picks from a team with very little dpth in their minors. Yes he is getting a goalie with great potential but Raymond might put up more points then Enroth this year alone.

I do understand and respect what both sides are doing here and would suggest dropping one of the Round 1 picks. I still consider :ANA: a big winner in this deal but would be passable for me.

Sorry guys just trying to help you guys get this deal done.


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Re: Anaheim and Vancouver make a deal
« Reply #13 on: November 01, 2013, 08:04:29 AM »
I respect all of you and your opinions. You're all great hockey guys and you all know I wouldn't try to bully someone into a deal or try to win a deal in a landslide.

I respect this league too much to try and pull a fast one, I truly thought this was a fair deal, and sincerely still do, BUT, it's easy to think that when you are in a  trade.

I am willing to drop a 1st round pick from this deal, of Gilly's choice and still give him this package if it would make it better for all in the TC.

I don't love that, as I think it makes it a little more offside, but I am certainly willing to do it so Gilly gets a Goalie, Top pairing Dman, Good Goalie spec AND keeps a 1st rounder to help build off of.

I appreciate all you guys have to say, and appreciate the explanations rather than just VETO.

Please throw out your thoughts if i surrender the extra 1st rounder.

Thanks.
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Re: Anaheim and Vancouver make a deal
« Reply #14 on: November 01, 2013, 09:15:29 AM »
I would be happier with the deal if you cut a first and either downgraded the 2 nd (which if van continues to play this way, could net a late first round player in the real NHL draft) to a 3 rd or you upgrade your 4 th to a 3 rd. I still do not believe enroth is worth as much as you want for him because of his current situation. But the revised package I proposed feels like fair value to me.
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