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Title: Flyers/Predators deal
Post by: favo_zomg on May 29, 2012, 06:25:01 PM
Flyers send:
James van Riemsdyk, $2.5m (2013-14)

Predators send:
Alexander Edler, $3.3m (2012-13)
Montreal's 4th

I do this deal to help bolster my already solid cast of dmen. The pic was added to compensate for the longer and cheaper contract. Thanks for the quick deal SlackJack.
Title: Re: Flyers/Predators deal
Post by: SlackJack on May 29, 2012, 06:57:49 PM
Agreed, confirmed, signed and delivered. Resigning Edler next year wasn't going to happen so thanks to Favo I get JVR on a nice contract in return for last seasons 3rd ranked defenceman and save a bit of cap as well. Thanks for the straight forward deal.  :toast:
Title: Re: Flyers/Predators deal
Post by: thunderblade on May 29, 2012, 11:31:35 PM
Wow! Was not jvr concussed last year? I never comment, I am a silent partner to this league, but to me this deal smells of mouldy cheese. Edler and pick for jvr is ludicrous. You have to have alot of faith in his future health to make that trade. I am not trying to cause trouble, just expressing my opinion.
Title: Re: Flyers/Predators deal
Post by: Drew on May 30, 2012, 12:54:02 AM
Wow! Was not jvr concussed last year? I never comment, I am a silent partner to this league, but to me this deal smells of mouldy cheese. Edler and pick for jvr is ludicrous. You have to have alot of faith in his future health to make that trade. I am not trying to cause trouble, just expressing my opinion.
JVR is only 23.
I have been talking to SlackJack about Edler as well and he actually offered me less for Edler as he wanted to get value for him instead of use him for one year then release him to FA as well as save some cap. JVR did take a step back last season with injuries but he should be a great player for many years.
Deal makes enough sense to me to pass, hope this is a good explanation for SlackJack and why this deal is here.
Title: Re: Flyers/Predators deal
Post by: SlackJack on May 30, 2012, 12:57:00 AM
JVR was indeed concussed last year....along with roughly 10% of all active players in the NHL. The baseline for diagnoses has changed so dramatically as to make concussion issues unavoidable. Therefore I have as much faith in JVR's future health as I do in any of my players. That is to say I have none.

I am also not certain that Alexander Edler remains Vancouver's best choice for power-play quarterback. There is a lot of talk in this market about bringing in someone else to fill that role because Edler's performance has been wildly inconsistent. What I am certain of is that I would not be resigning him at $6.8m per year, though I would definitely pick up Patrice Bergeron's contract if it was on the table.

I make trades based on a lot of different criteria, such as the fact that I've cleared $.8m in cap space and that JVR is only 23 years old. I also really like the fact that he was picked 2nd over-all. I find nothing ludicrous about my assessment. To the contrary, I feel like the trade is a win win if not an outright triumph in my favour. Now this is me expressing my opinion: If someone is going to take a run at a deal I have agreed to I would prefer to read a well thought-out critique than random comments like it smells like cheese.

 
Title: Re: Flyers/Predators deal
Post by: Tony on May 30, 2012, 03:22:59 AM
 :iatp: trade is good.
Title: Re: Flyers/Predators deal
Post by: favo_zomg on May 30, 2012, 07:17:04 AM
JVR was indeed concussed last year....along with roughly 10% of all active players in the NHL. The baseline for diagnoses has changed so dramatically as to make concussion issues unavoidable. Therefore I have as much faith in JVR's future health as I do in any of my players. That is to say I have none.

I am also not certain that Alexander Edler remains Vancouver's best choice for power-play quarterback. There is a lot of talk in this market about bringing in someone else to fill that role because Edler's performance has been wildly inconsistent. What I am certain of is that I would not be resigning him at $6.8m per year, though I would definitely pick up Patrice Bergeron's contract if it was on the table.

I make trades based on a lot of different criteria, such as the fact that I've cleared $.8m in cap space and that JVR is only 23 years old. I also really like the fact that he was picked 2nd over-all. I find nothing ludicrous about my assessment. To the contrary, I feel like the trade is a win win if not an outright triumph in my favour. Now this is me expressing my opinion: If someone is going to take a run at a deal I have agreed to I would prefer to read a well thought-out critique than random comments like it smells like cheese.

Exactly my thought as well... Where SlackJack wins by getting the younger player with more potential, I made the deal because I know getting one of the four top quality dmen in FA will be expensive. Edler might only last one season, as I will not be resigning him for 6.8 either, but at least I know my d is solid this season. And because I will not be resigning him, I get a draft pick back in what I consider to be one of the best draft classes in this league. And yes, it will be that deep.
Title: Re: Flyers/Predators deal
Post by: BeanTown on May 30, 2012, 08:47:57 AM
I'm ok with this deal... I like the Edler pick-up for Favo here. JVR if he gets back to form (it's a gamble) but he still should be something special for a VERY good Philly team
Title: Re: Flyers/Predators deal
Post by: thunderblade on May 30, 2012, 07:07:09 PM
First off, I aologize to SlackJack on the mouldy cheese comment on my assessment on the trade. Definately not called for and very classless on my part. I still don't like the trade but who am I to even evaluate anyways. The trade commitee is composed of extremely competent individuals who have a vast knowledge of the players and always make rational asessments of trades. Sorry once again.
Title: Re: Flyers/Predators deal
Post by: favo_zomg on May 30, 2012, 07:12:13 PM
First off, I aologize to SlackJack on the mouldy cheese comment on my assessment on the trade. Definately not called for and very classless on my part. I still don't like the trade but who am I to even evaluate anyways. The trade commitee is composed of extremely competent individuals who have a vast knowledge of the players and always make rational asessments of trades. Sorry once again.

If you do not like something, than you should be alloud to voice your opinion even if you are not on the trade committee. Next time, just put a little more thought and research into it.
Title: Re: Flyers/Predators deal
Post by: SlackJack on May 30, 2012, 08:16:57 PM
First off, I aologize to SlackJack on the mouldy cheese comment on my assessment on the trade. Definately not called for and very classless on my part. I still don't like the trade but who am I to even evaluate anyways. The trade commitee is composed of extremely competent individuals who have a vast knowledge of the players and always make rational asessments of trades. Sorry once again.

No worries Thunderblade. I'll happy justify the merits of a trade, just not my motive.
Title: Re: Flyers/Predators deal
Post by: Drew on June 01, 2012, 01:11:53 PM
 :iatp:
Title: Re: Flyers/Predators deal
Post by: Drew on June 01, 2012, 01:15:28 PM
Flyers send:
James van Riemsdyk, $2.5m (2013-14)

Predators send:
Alexander Edler, $3.3m (2012-13)
Montreal's 4th

I do this deal to help bolster my already solid cast of dmen. The pic was added to compensate for the longer and cheaper contract. Thanks for the quick deal SlackJack.
:judge: