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Title: Free Agency Discussion Thread
Post by: chrisetc21 on January 30, 2014, 02:56:44 PM
If anyone has questions or comments on free agency please put them in this thread.  It's difficult to track the winning bids when there are non-bid posts in threads that change the timestamp.  I'm not trying to stop discussion, just trying to make it so I can track these threads.  Thanks. 
Title: Re: Free Agency Discussion Thread
Post by: ThePetis on January 30, 2014, 10:36:56 PM
I noticed a few of the free agents have been signed without the requisite 48 hours passing.... did the rule change?  Wilson Betemit and Matt LaPorta were both signed after 24 hours.  Perhaps it's a mistake, but I just want to make sure I didn't miss something and the deadline was moved up to 24 hours.  Thanks.
Title: Re: Free Agency Discussion Thread
Post by: chrisetc21 on January 30, 2014, 10:52:09 PM
No, you're right.  I screwed up.
Title: Re: Free Agency Discussion Thread
Post by: ThePetis on January 30, 2014, 10:54:54 PM
No, you're right.  I screwed up.

No worries, I was more concerned for future bids.
Title: Re: Free Agency Discussion Thread
Post by: chrisetc21 on January 30, 2014, 10:56:11 PM
No worries, I was more concerned for future bids.

I'll try to keep a better eye on it.  Better QC haha
Title: Re: SS Erisbel Arruebarruena
Post by: Dre2k19 on January 31, 2014, 02:35:58 PM
Correct me if I am wrong but I believe he has to sign with a team before he is able to be signed
Title: Re: Re: SS Erisbel Arruebarruena
Post by: chrisetc21 on January 31, 2014, 02:41:49 PM
Correct me if I am wrong but I believe he has to sign with a team before he is able to be signed

He's 23 so he's free game.  If you want to sign guys who aren't in MLB organizations, it's a risk for you obviously but that's your call I guess. 

International free agents under age 23 who have not signed a contract with a major league franchise as of July 1st of the previous year are NOT eligible for the regular free agent period.  These international free agents will be part of the international free agency period beginning in July. International players over age 23 who do not have a contract with an MLB organization are regular free agents.  While a major league contract automatically trumps a minor league contract regardless of value, no minor leaguer under the age of 23 may be offered a major league contract.

http://www.profsl.com/smf/index.php?topic=130463.0
Title: Re: Free Agency Discussion Thread
Post by: Dre2k19 on February 18, 2014, 01:24:33 PM
anybody know where Iwakuma went?
I don't see his thread or am I just missing it
Title: Re: Free Agency Discussion Thread
Post by: seanrmgallagher on February 18, 2014, 01:26:28 PM
For some reason, one post gets hidden between page 1 and 2 of a board, he is probably hidden. When another person posts, he will reappear.
Title: Re: Free Agency Discussion Thread
Post by: Dre2k19 on February 18, 2014, 01:28:49 PM
Hmmm thats strange.  Thanks for the info!
Title: Re: OF Vernon Wells
Post by: chrisetc21 on February 22, 2014, 06:38:03 PM
It's highly irregular and dumb to allow teams to bid on players they've bought out. 
Title: Re: Re: OF Vernon Wells
Post by: ThePetis on February 22, 2014, 08:56:11 PM
It's highly irregular and dumb to allow teams to bid on players they've bought out.

Agreed
Title: Re: Re: OF Vernon Wells
Post by: Maydab23 on February 22, 2014, 09:02:11 PM
Just playing within the rules fellas. Personally, I voted against allowing present owners being allowed to buyout. I haven't seen anything thus far restricting owners bidding on players they had bought out.
Title: Re: Re: OF Vernon Wells
Post by: ThePetis on February 22, 2014, 09:06:14 PM
 :iatp:
Just playing within the rules fellas. Personally, I voted against allowing present owners being allowed to buyout. I haven't seen anything thus far restricting owners bidding on players they had bought out.

Yep, no hard feelings, just a loophole that should be closed.
Title: Re: Free Agency Discussion Thread
Post by: fperric on February 23, 2014, 10:07:26 AM
im with chris on this one.  where is the spirit of the rule?  we can't expect these guys to draft a 5,000 page document to avoid every little angle or loophole.  just my opinion. 

anyway, I have a question re FA contracts: i thought "PC+$50k" contracts were only for prospects.  maybe i am mistaken here, but want to be sure any new bids i put in are correct, since i see some vets being opened up with "PC+$50k".  thanks.

also, are we still on a "6 leading bid" max?

thanks,
  frank-mil
Title: Re: Free Agency Discussion Thread
Post by: seanrmgallagher on February 23, 2014, 01:40:06 PM
PC just essentially means a minor league contract. Therefore, they are for anyone that you do not want on your 40 man roster or not pay a 400k major league minimum contract. For Vets that are at 6 years experience, the contract is only for 1 year, whereas prospects can be held in the minors as long as you want.

And yes, we are sticking to the 6 leading bids.
Title: Re: Free Agency Discussion Thread
Post by: fperric on March 08, 2014, 09:59:32 PM
Does the free agency process stay the same once the season starts?  Still have to post bid or does it become a free for all of sorts based on waiver wire order?   

Thanks,
   Frank-brewers
Title: Re: Free Agency Discussion Thread
Post by: chrisetc21 on March 08, 2014, 11:16:23 PM
Does the free agency process stay the same once the season starts?  Still have to post bid or does it become a free for all of sorts based on waiver wire order?   

Thanks,
   Frank-brewers

I believe it's open as is until the end of the World Series.
Title: Re: Free Agency Discussion Thread
Post by: fperric on March 09, 2014, 12:00:55 PM
Ok. Thanks.  :toast:by
Title: Re: Free Agency Discussion Thread
Post by: drejay25 on March 14, 2014, 08:04:56 AM
Can someone please message me and let me know where I can find the FAs so that I can place some up for bid!!!!
Title: Re: Free Agency Discussion Thread
Post by: ThePetis on March 14, 2014, 10:22:33 AM
Your best bet is to look at the available players on FanTrax.
Title: Re: Free Agency Discussion Thread
Post by: drejay25 on March 14, 2014, 11:11:23 AM
It is telling me on FanTrax that I am not a member of the league
Title: Re: Free Agency Discussion Thread
Post by: ThePetis on March 14, 2014, 11:53:44 AM
What is your FanTrax ID?
Title: Re: Free Agency Discussion Thread
Post by: chrisetc21 on March 17, 2014, 03:11:48 AM
I think it's clear that the Twins have every intention of making a mockery of the competitiveness of his team.  I think that's a serious problem really.
Title: Re: Free Agency Discussion Thread
Post by: Lindner on March 17, 2014, 03:40:15 AM
I think it's clear that the Twins have every intention of making a mockery of the competitiveness of his team.  I think that's a serious problem really.

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Title: Re: Free Agency Discussion Thread
Post by: chrisetc21 on March 17, 2014, 03:42:38 AM
Maturity not your strong suit I see.
Title: Re: Free Agency Discussion Thread
Post by: seanrmgallagher on March 17, 2014, 01:18:19 PM
It is well within the rules, and the smart thing to do under the current rules. That being said, how would people feel about instituting a competitiveness rule? An example would be a rule where all teams must have at least 10 players on ML deals on their team. If a team does not reach that quota, they could have salary reductions in upcoming years. It would help stop all out tanking and be more realistic, as the MLB forces teams to pay a certain amount in salary.
Title: Re: Free Agency Discussion Thread
Post by: ThePetis on March 17, 2014, 01:38:28 PM
How about a rule that requires you to call up players that have a certain number of major league at-bats or innings pitched?  This would help keep the stockpiling of talent in the minor leagues to a minimum.

Title: Re: Free Agency Discussion Thread
Post by: Lindner on March 17, 2014, 02:46:16 PM
Maturity not your strong suit I see.

I'd much rather play with people that like to have fun than arrogant pricks like you. Do we need to implement some rules to prevent people from holding guys in the minors? Maybe. It seems like a personal preference thing to me. Calling me out specifically for the way I run my team (and my methods are completely within the rules) shows your inability to make sound judgment in dealing with people/problems. There's a reason 95+% of the people here dislike you. Run your team and I'll run mine. If you think there should should be certain rules in place, you suggest them. You don't post on the public threads that someone is making a mockery of their team. I believe I'm giving myself the best chance to string together multiple championships with this strategy. It's odd that I had signed a couple retired guys several days ago, but you didn't call me out on it until I started bumping some of your guys in FA.
Title: Re: Free Agency Discussion Thread
Post by: seanrmgallagher on March 17, 2014, 02:55:06 PM
How about a rule that requires you to call up players that have a certain number of major league at-bats or innings pitched?  This would help keep the stockpiling of talent in the minor leagues to a minimum.

I like the idea, but that opens up the question of how to handle veterans that are signed to minor league deals and when veterans on bad contracts take up a 40-man spot that an owner rightfully would not want there. The rule would have to be hammered out obviously.
Title: Re: Free Agency Discussion Thread
Post by: ThePetis on March 17, 2014, 03:22:14 PM
I like the idea, but that opens up the question of how to handle veterans that are signed to minor league deals and when veterans on bad contracts take up a 40-man spot that an owner rightfully would not want there. The rule would have to be hammered out obviously.

Not sure how to handle veterans on minor league deals, but they are only on one-year deals anyway....

For true prospects, once they hit a certain AB or IP threshold, you could start their clocks.  They don't have to be promoted, but there's no longer an incentive to keep them in the minors.
Title: Re: Free Agency Discussion Thread
Post by: chrisetc21 on March 17, 2014, 03:27:06 PM
I'd much rather play with people that like to have fun than arrogant pricks like you. Do we need to implement some rules to prevent people from holding guys in the minors? Maybe. It seems like a personal preference thing to me. Calling me out specifically for the way I run my team (and my methods are completely within the rules) shows your inability to make sound judgment in dealing with people/problems. There's a reason 95+% of the people here dislike you. Run your team and I'll run mine. If you think there should should be certain rules in place, you suggest them. You don't post on the public threads that someone is making a mockery of their team. I believe I'm giving myself the best chance to string together multiple championships with this strategy. It's odd that I had signed a couple retired guys several days ago, but you didn't call me out on it until I started bumping some of your guys in FA.

LOL  This is where a picture of a crying child certainly fits. 

So there shouldn't be a rule to prevent people like you from filling a team out to receive zero points for the season?  How about multiple teams filling out their rosters to receive zero points for the season?  You've made little to no effort to fill out your roster, promote players who are MLB ready, or sign free agents.  You are absolutely making a mockery of the competitiveness of your team.  Instead of responding responsibly, like an adult, you resort to personal attacks and boohoo nobody likes you.  Huh?  And somehow my response is due to the fact that you tried to sign a free agent that I bid on despite the fact I've already spent like $75 million in free agency and signed more players than anyone in the league?  That's a brilliant deduction.  If I've been consistent with anything it's promoting the benefit of the league by suggesting improvements and rule changes, many of which have been implemented.  It's laughably paranoid and deluded that you'd believe my post was anything but that and it's even more laughable that I have to defend my motives in pointing out the problem with your tactic when it's clear you're precisely trying to score zero points for the season.   
Title: Re: Free Agency Discussion Thread
Post by: Jss0062 on March 17, 2014, 03:41:08 PM
Are y'all really arguing about who is doing a better job of tanking?  Both of your teams are bad on purpose. It's currently within the rules, and a good strategy in real life, though I wonder about in a fantasy league.  These attacks need to end now.
Title: Re: Free Agency Discussion Thread
Post by: chrisetc21 on March 17, 2014, 04:43:49 PM
Are y'all really arguing about who is doing a better job of tanking?  Both of your teams are bad on purpose. It's currently within the rules, and a good strategy in real life, though I wonder about in a fantasy league.  These attacks need to end now.

Actually I promoted several players (Yelich, Mercer, Wilson, Sanchez, traded for Capps) to fill out my roster, signed free agents (Bianchi, Izturis), and bid on other MLB free agents to fill out my roster so your characterization isn't entirely accurate.  It's about whether you want multiple teams in a league scoring zero points.  And if there are multiple teams scoring zero points, what is the tiebreaker for the draft?  I could have very easily stashed those players and signed a bunch of retired guys.  That's easy to do if that's the league we want to have. 
Title: Re: Free Agency Discussion Thread
Post by: Maydab23 on March 17, 2014, 05:28:48 PM
As far as this bickering, you both are tanking on purpose and following the rules in doing so. Just doing it in different ways while arguing about the morality in each of your methods. Get over it. Stop the attacks. If I was in your positions I would have a strategy somewhere between the two of you.

As far as the real topic here, I don't think this is a problem that needs to be addressed. Real teams hold back prospects all the time for arb clock purposes. Besides, if you delay the arb clock (let's say 3 years) then when your player hits years 4-6 in AFB they would have probably already signed a FA contract in real life for more salary (which would be "previous years" salary used in AFB)

So I don't have a problem delaying prospects because real teams do it and it will only cost you more in salary(in most cases) in years 4-6.
Title: Re: Free Agency Discussion Thread
Post by: chrisetc21 on March 17, 2014, 06:29:12 PM
I had zero intention of bickering.  It seems this was a blatantly obvious problem that needed to be addressed but if it's going to be fair game then that's fine.  If I have an question from now on I'll just direct it to the Commissioners.
Title: Re: Free Agency Discussion Thread
Post by: mgzd on March 18, 2014, 12:43:27 AM
Not to belittle the issue, but I have a wife who's pissed off at me 50% of the time, 2 sons in school and a boss who's an a-hole.
This is supposed to be my relief, my enjoyment. How about we all quit the name calling and accusations and just try to arrive at a solution to any issues at hand? State your point and leave it at that. Just my thought on things.
Title: Re: Free Agency Discussion Thread
Post by: Fitzy1962 on May 23, 2014, 02:21:19 PM
Why don't we make signing veterans to minor league contracts illegal? Should be that way anyway.
Title: Re: Free Agency Discussion Thread
Post by: Fitzy1962 on May 23, 2014, 02:28:27 PM
im with chris on this one.  where is the spirit of the rule?  we can't expect these guys to draft a 5,000 page document to avoid every little angle or loophole.  just my opinion. 

anyway, I have a question re FA contracts: i thought "PC+$50k" contracts were only for prospects.  maybe i am mistaken here, but want to be sure any new bids i put in are correct, since i see some vets being opened up with "PC+$50k".  thanks.

also, are we still on a "6 leading bid" max?

thanks,
  frank-mil

Well said. People looking for the "un-written rule" to break, are simply trying to gain an unfair advantage.