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Fantasy Leagues => Dynasty NHL => NHL Leagues => Dynasty NHL: Archive => Topic started by: Rob on April 09, 2019, 03:39:17 PM
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Thanks to shooter for automating these standings with his leet coding skills.
Final Standings
1 Ottawa Senators 72
2 Winnipeg Jets 70
3 Boston Bruins 68
4 New York Islanders 66
5 Philadelphia Flyers 65
6 Vancouver Canucks 64
7 Arizona Coyotes 63
7 Montreal Canadiens 63
9 St. Louis Blues 61
10 Buffalo Sabres 58
10 New York Rangers 58
12 Detroit Red Wings 49
12 Las Vegas Knights 49
14 Chicago Blackhawks 48
14 Colorado Avalanche 48
16 Toronto Maple Leafs 47
17 Pittsburgh Penguins 46
18 Nashville Predators No Picks
19 Edmonton Oilers No Picks
20 Washington Capitals No Picks
I think it's pretty funny that Colorado copied all of Pittsburgh's picks and then Pittsburgh ended up dead last :rofl:
Congrats janesvilleaces!!
The discount needs to be used on a 2018 extension and the following rules also apply:
***The discount is applied to the normal extendable amount and the length of the contract is based on the normal extendable amount. For example, if a player would normally extend at $5m for 4 or 5 years - the discounted contract would be $4m for 4 or 5 years. Note that the final contract does not adhere to the extension contract limits ($4m/year would normally qualify for 3 or 4 years) - the length limits apply to the original amount, not the discounted amount***
***This discount may be applied in addition to the Prospect Discount. It must be applied to the already discounted amount. So it's 30% off the original for prospect, then 20% off that amount. NOT 50% off the original extension price.***
***The discount may only be used on expiring players - it may not be used to extend a player who is currently under contract.***
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After reviewing Ottawa's roster situation I realize this discount is worthless for them this year. I want to make it worth something.
Option 1) Allow the discount to be used in future years
Option 2) Make the discount trade-able
Either way, Janesvilleaces benefits. The trade-able option piques my interest. Thoughts?
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Don't like the idea of letting it be used in future years so put me down for the trade option.
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After reviewing Ottawa's roster situation I realize this discount is worthless for them this year. I want to make it worth something.
Option 1) Allow the discount to be used in future years
Option 2) Make the discount trade-able
Either way, Janesvilleaces benefits. The trade-able option piques my interest. Thoughts?
I don't really like either of those options, but I like Option 2) better.
My suggestion would be Option 3) Allow the discount to be used on an off-season FA winning bid.
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Any of 1, 2 or 3 is fine with me.
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I came back to say that if it's option 2 then all future winners should be allowed to trade as well....then I read Ian's post and like his idea better.
Put the Coyotes down for option 3
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Since most are kind enough to make the exception i am fine with whatever the majority go with.
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I came back to say that if it's option 2 then all future winners should be allowed to trade as well....then I read Ian's post and like his idea better.
Put the Coyotes down for option 3
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Hopefully you would have considered this if I had ended up winning :P (although I'm never any good at these things). I don't think I have any expiring contracts this season either.
FA is the best option. Keeps it within this year, rather than the complexity of trading (what's it worth) and to be used in future years (makes the whole thing messy).
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I agree that it should be worth something for a team to win the rankings contest. I don't know how I really feel about changing the reward after the fact just to make it more valuable to a team. What are we going to do in the future if a team wins it and they don't have any players to resign and they don't have any cap space for FA? or there aren't any good FA players one year for the team to sign? Seems like it could just cause more issues in the future.
I think making the resign discount tradeable is the easiest way to keep the reward value similar year to year. That way an owner can choose to use it themselves or trade it to someone else who will find value in it. Other options that could be considered is instead of making it a percentage of the resign value to make it a just a $1m discount off of a resign. That way you don't see the year to year fluctuations that we have seen so far (Snuge saved $2.1m off Crosby last year while the previous year I saved $0.8m off Jake Allen).
Crosby extension: http://www.profsl.com/smf/index.php?topic=327401.msg1330982#msg1330982
Allen Extension: http://www.profsl.com/smf/index.php?topic=296983.msg1252231#msg1252231
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I know I know.... Another gray area that I didn't foresee and I'm addressing it on the fly. But I think as a group we've always been good at addressing these kinda things and coming up with solutions that make sense. That's the beauty of this democratic dictatorship thing we have going here. I've always opened the floor even when I've made "executive" decisions like this. And I've changed those decisions on the fly based on great input from you all.
I just think it will be sad to see a year long contest end with lame prize. It's my fault. Cally - yes - if it were you I would be having the same conversation. I think most around here who have been around would vouch for that.
I personally think making it trade-able is the best solution. It adds value for both Ottawa and the rest of the league, not to mention the intrigue involved with others going after that discount. I don't really like the idea of it carrying over. And I really don't like the FA idea. Especially since it could be used on a massive 1 year deal.
If we do make it trade-able then it can be used on any contract that's already been extended (and currently unprocessed), so that those teams that already posted extensions aren't left out of this.
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I just think it will be sad to see a year long contest end with lame prize. It's my fault. Cally - yes - if it were you I would be having the same conversation. I think most around here who have been around would vouch for that.
Haha, I know I know I trust that you would. Just stirring the pot haha.
I think making the resign discount tradeable is the easiest way to keep the reward value similar year to year. That way an owner can choose to use it themselves or trade it to someone else who will find value in it. Other options that could be considered is instead of making it a percentage of the resign value to make it a just a $1m discount off of a resign. That way you don't see the year to year fluctuations that we have seen so far (Snuge saved $2.1m off Crosby last year while the previous year I saved $0.8m off Jake Allen).
I could get on board with this suggestions as well. Fixed amount.
As Rob pointed out, a 1-year deal that's a big dollar value could be impacted a lot with a FA discount percentage.
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I personally think making it trade-able is the best solution. It adds value for both Ottawa and the rest of the league, not to mention the intrigue involved with others going after that discount. I don't really like the idea of it carrying over. And I really don't like the FA idea. Especially since it could be used on a massive 1 year deal.
If we do make it trade-able then it can be used on any contract that's already been extended (and currently unprocessed), so that those teams that already posted extensions aren't left out of this.
Hmm...I'm swinging in the breeze.
And what about a 4th option and make the prize a free-play in our dynasty $$ playoff pool. Take the prize right out of the regular season game and give the winner a free ride....oh wait, we don't have a $$ play-off pool. Rob, you better get on that!
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Hmm...I'm swinging in the breeze.
And what about a 4th option and make the prize a free-play in our dynasty $$ playoff pool. Take the prize right out of the regular season game and give the winner a free ride....oh wait, we don't have a $$ play-off pool. Rob, you better get on that!
Yea that would have to happen like right now eh? What's the best option? Fantrax? I've never done one before.
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Yea that would have to happen like right now eh? What's the best option? Fantrax? I've never done one before.
Realistically we're probably talking about next year but if we have the numbers we can still hold a draft a week into the playoffs no problem. I just don't know anything about Fantrax and if there's enough interest or not.
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Realistically we're probably talking about next year but if we have the numbers we can still hold a draft a week into the playoffs no problem. I just don't know anything about Fantrax and if there's enough interest or not.
The best option would be a live draft, but getting any number of us around at the same time would be a hell of a task. A slow draft (4 hours per pick?) would take, maybe, 2-3 days? So we launch at week 2 of the playoffs? Ehh...
That's all kinda rushed for a $$ event. Maybe we do this right for next year. And plan a live draft months in advance. And open up voice comm's on Discord for trash talk - that would be fun as hell.
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The best option would be a live draft, but getting any number of us around at the same time would be a hell of a task. A slow draft (4 hours per pick?) would take, maybe, 2-3 days? So we launch at week 2 of the playoffs? Ehh...
That's all kinda rushed for a $$ event. Maybe we do this right for next year. And plan a live draft months in advance. And open up voice comm's on Discord for trash talk - that would be fun as hell.
We could do a freebee this year as a trial run. Set the picks at 1 hour per so if GM's aren't available they'll just have to lean on auto-draft. It'll be chaos but fun! I'd bet we get half the GM's and so if we go 12-14 players deep we'd be through it in a couple days.
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I'm going to go ahead and make the discount trade-able. :judge: