Author Topic: Google Sheet Thing  (Read 1457 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline SlackJack

  • Legend
  • *****
  • Join Date: Jan 2012
  • Posts: 5156
  • Bonus inPoints: 0
  • Director of Media Relations
    • :Blank:
    • :Blank:
    • :PHI-NHL:
    • :Blank:
    • View Profile
Google Sheet Thing
« on: November 23, 2020, 01:21:48 PM »
Not a huge fan of the google sheets in-lieu of profsl rosters but I'll adapt. One change for the better would be to stop projecting prospect contracts (p/na) ahead for 4 years at $500k. It really muddies the at-a-glance view. Would be better if when I look at the 2024/25 column (for example) I only see actual contract commitments, not place-holder numbers.
funny
0
like
0
dislike
0
No reactions
No reactions
No reactions
:SC-NHL: :SC-NHL: :SC-NHL: :SC-NHL:  2015-16, 2017-18, 2018-19, 2019-20 Backyard NHL Stanley Cup Champion :STL-NHL:

Offline GypsieDeathBringer

  • League Moderator
  • MVP
  • *****
  • Join Date: Jun 2011
  • Posts: 3242
  • Bonus inPoints: 0
    • :DAL:
    • :ORL:
    • :PIT-NHL:
    • :Pittsburgh:
    • :blank:
    • View Profile
Re: Google Sheet Thing
« Reply #1 on: November 23, 2020, 02:58:12 PM »
What would be the suggested alternative way?
funny
0
like
0
dislike
0
No reactions
No reactions
No reactions
2011-12 Dynasty NHL Champion :CAR-NHL:
[Dynasty NHL :PIT-NHL:]
[ProFSL Dynasty Hockey :PIT-NHL:]

Offline SlackJack

  • Legend
  • *****
  • Join Date: Jan 2012
  • Posts: 5156
  • Bonus inPoints: 0
  • Director of Media Relations
    • :Blank:
    • :Blank:
    • :PHI-NHL:
    • :Blank:
    • View Profile
Re: Google Sheet Thing
« Reply #2 on: November 23, 2020, 04:32:48 PM »
Simply fill in the current year with the $0.5 placeholder! Roll that forward one year at a time until the prospect is released or signed to a 5 year discounted pro-contract.

C   n/a   Nick Suzuki         $0.5   $0.5   $0.5   $0.5   $0.5

The (n/a) designation is reminder enough of what type of contract it is, and so by dropping the unnecessary row of $0.5's it would really enhance our ability to see how our pro-contracts are impacting future cap space!
funny
0
like
0
dislike
0
No reactions
No reactions
No reactions
:SC-NHL: :SC-NHL: :SC-NHL: :SC-NHL:  2015-16, 2017-18, 2018-19, 2019-20 Backyard NHL Stanley Cup Champion :STL-NHL:

Offline SlackJack

  • Legend
  • *****
  • Join Date: Jan 2012
  • Posts: 5156
  • Bonus inPoints: 0
  • Director of Media Relations
    • :Blank:
    • :Blank:
    • :PHI-NHL:
    • :Blank:
    • View Profile
Re: Google Sheet Thing
« Reply #3 on: November 23, 2020, 04:43:26 PM »
Currently my Salary Cap projection for 24/25 is at $30m but I only have commitments of $22.5m. This gets remedied with that suggestion as well. 
funny
0
like
0
dislike
0
No reactions
No reactions
No reactions
:SC-NHL: :SC-NHL: :SC-NHL: :SC-NHL:  2015-16, 2017-18, 2018-19, 2019-20 Backyard NHL Stanley Cup Champion :STL-NHL:

Offline jmtrops

  • Legend
  • *****
  • Join Date: Jan 2011
  • Posts: 5188
  • Bonus inPoints: 0
    • :NE:
    • :Blank:
    • :TBL:
    • :Blank:
    • View Profile
Re: Google Sheet Thing
« Reply #4 on: November 23, 2020, 05:56:37 PM »
I have my own speed sheet for my team and project future contracts for what I think they would be. for prospects on google we should show it for 3 years since we know it will at least be for 3.
funny
0
like
0
dislike
0
No reactions
No reactions
No reactions

Offline SlackJack

  • Legend
  • *****
  • Join Date: Jan 2012
  • Posts: 5156
  • Bonus inPoints: 0
  • Director of Media Relations
    • :Blank:
    • :Blank:
    • :PHI-NHL:
    • :Blank:
    • View Profile
Re: Google Sheet Thing
« Reply #5 on: November 23, 2020, 06:33:24 PM »
for prospects on google we should show it for 3 years since we know it will at least be for 3.
This isn't true though as p/na contracts are only good until the end of the season in which they hit 40 games. Only the current years salary is a true commitment...so there is no good reason to clutter up a column by projecting $0.5 forward. After 40 games the contract will either be terminated or extended for 5 years at a different number.

Anyway I only raised this because it's an easy fix.  :thumbsup:
funny
0
like
0
dislike
0
No reactions
No reactions
No reactions
:SC-NHL: :SC-NHL: :SC-NHL: :SC-NHL:  2015-16, 2017-18, 2018-19, 2019-20 Backyard NHL Stanley Cup Champion :STL-NHL:

Offline shooter47

  • MVP
  • ****
  • Join Date: Apr 2011
  • Posts: 4936
  • Bonus inPoints: 0
    • :MIN-NFL:
    • :MIN-NBA:
    • :MIN-NHL:
    • :NorthDakotaState:
    • View Profile
Re: Google Sheet Thing
« Reply #6 on: November 23, 2020, 06:37:42 PM »
This isn't true though as p/na contracts are only good until the end of the season in which they hit 40 games. Only the current years salary is a true commitment...so there is no good reason to clutter up a column by projecting $0.5 forward. After 40 games the contract will either be terminated or extended for 5 years at a different number.

Anyway I only raised this because it's an easy fix.  :thumbsup:

I dont follow this at all. When a player is on a p-n/a contract its essentially a contract for 0.5m for all years in the future. Once a player hits 40 games played it changes to a salary of 0.5m for 2 years and then after that you'd have to extend. If you only show one year for a prospect contract your going to think you have more cap space for the following year then you do because you still have to pay your p-n/a guys 0.5m next year...
funny
0
like
0
dislike
0
No reactions
No reactions
No reactions

Offline Anthony

  • Legend
  • *****
  • Join Date: Feb 2011
  • Posts: 10065
  • Bonus inPoints: 10000
    • :CHI:
    • :CHI-NBA:
    • :CHI-NHL:
    • :Minnesota:
    • :CHC:
    • View Profile
Re: Google Sheet Thing
« Reply #7 on: November 23, 2020, 07:43:52 PM »
I get what you're saying and I can cut it down to the current year and 2 additional years. I don't want to have the salary only shown in the current year for the reason shooter brought up.
funny
0
like
0
dislike
0
No reactions
No reactions
No reactions

Offline shooter47

  • MVP
  • ****
  • Join Date: Apr 2011
  • Posts: 4936
  • Bonus inPoints: 0
    • :MIN-NFL:
    • :MIN-NBA:
    • :MIN-NHL:
    • :NorthDakotaState:
    • View Profile
Re: Google Sheet Thing
« Reply #8 on: November 23, 2020, 07:59:23 PM »
I get what you're saying and I can cut it down to the current year and 2 additional years. I don't want to have the salary only shown in the current year for the reason shooter brought up.

I think how it is shown in the google spreadsheet is accurate how its currently shown. Below is how a prospect contract is described in the rules. They are eternal 500k contracts. So showing them as 500k contracts for each year shown on the spreadsheet is correct. I think if slackjack wants to look at salaries in the 2024-2025 year he can make his own roster spreadsheet and track them however he wants to.

Prospect Contracts
To simplify things, all prospects (under 40 NHL games played) will inherit $500k/yr contracts.  Prospect contracts are eternal, they will always make $500k and no extension is required.  The contract lasts for two years after the point they accumulate 40 NHL games played.  They may accumulate this over multiple years, but the two year rule does not take effect until the year they actually hit the accumulation threshold.  A player becomes ineligible for a prospect contract when that player is released from a prospect contract that had its two year clock already start.

Example:  Prospect X plays his 40th game in January of 2011.  His prospect contract would now take him through 11/12 & 12/13 and he will need to be extended to a normal contract for the 13/14 season.

Prospects on the minor league roster do not count towards the salary cap.  They only count towards the cap if they're on the NHL roster.
funny
0
like
0
dislike
0
No reactions
No reactions
No reactions

Offline SlackJack

  • Legend
  • *****
  • Join Date: Jan 2012
  • Posts: 5156
  • Bonus inPoints: 0
  • Director of Media Relations
    • :Blank:
    • :Blank:
    • :PHI-NHL:
    • :Blank:
    • View Profile
Re: Google Sheet Thing
« Reply #9 on: November 24, 2020, 01:08:52 PM »
Quote
I think if slackjack wants to look at salaries in the 2024-2025 year he can make his own roster spreadsheet and track them however he wants to.
I already had one Shooter, that was the profsl roster sheet. If my team icon could link back to that instead of google that would be great. I'd happily maintain that as I never wanted to use a spreadsheet in the first place. I think it's great that there are steps to maintain the league in the event profsl goes down but I'm here for site first and league second.

As far as prospect contracts go I see what you are saying and from one point of view it makes sense. But I look at prospect contracts as being a different class of contract (from pro-contract commitments). Prospect contacts are less obligatory and much more fluid in terms of roster movement. The 40 game threshold is a wait-and-see period that let's us evaluate the prospect and so there is a moment one commits to these players but until they are signed to a pro-contract I view them as having roster optionality.
funny
0
like
0
dislike
0
No reactions
No reactions
No reactions
:SC-NHL: :SC-NHL: :SC-NHL: :SC-NHL:  2015-16, 2017-18, 2018-19, 2019-20 Backyard NHL Stanley Cup Champion :STL-NHL:

 

Forum Search


Quick Profile

 
 
Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.
Did you miss your activation email?

* Chat Room

Refresh History
  • jimw: Some of these deals are weirder than Draymond Green on Inside the NBA
    Yesterday at 08:23:14 PM
  • Daddy: So what you're saying is... Mimics real life :rofl:
    Yesterday at 08:28:49 PM
  • Daddy: When Braves & Brian make a trade with each other.... There are certain atoms in the universe that collide. Unique atoms. Its like watching Nuclear fusion being born.
    Yesterday at 08:31:10 PM
  • Daddy: Something you arent supposed to really see and you dont know if its harmful. Im going to view it thru the eclipse glasses these idiots gave me.
    Yesterday at 08:32:28 PM
  • Daddy: Finally a good use for them. :)
    Yesterday at 08:32:52 PM
  • jimw: nuclear fusion being born....lol
    Yesterday at 08:33:20 PM
  • STLBlues91: Im just going to put this up in my classroom on Tuesday so the kids can watch the science happen
    Yesterday at 08:34:35 PM
  • Braves155: To see madness in action all you gotta do is look at all the moves Brian posts on a daily basis. He will flip half his team in 2 days or less in certain sports
    Yesterday at 08:50:02 PM
  • Braves155: PM Daddy
    Yesterday at 08:56:09 PM
  • Daddy: Back Braves :)
    Yesterday at 08:58:13 PM
  • Daddy: Congratulations gentlemen
    Yesterday at 08:58:55 PM
  • Daddy: Honestly i love the deal because my GMs love it. I dont say good deal bad deal or i like this side better.  My goal is to provide a fair platform where people are free to trade and not be judged because nobody knows for sure how these trades will play out. Lots of ACLs are gonna tear between now and new years.  Im always happy that two strangers with different backgrounds can meet in our league and enjoy freedom to be themselves and do what THEY THINK is best. I love every deal. (Had to share that @Braves) :toast:
    Yesterday at 09:15:31 PM
  • BayAreaBallers: trade made in fgm w me and braves
    Yesterday at 09:27:52 PM
  • Daddy: Nice! Getm FGM
    Yesterday at 09:42:14 PM
  • Daddy: THE Grandaddy of them all = FGM
    Yesterday at 09:43:08 PM
  • Braves155: Brian traded a Guardians prospect? What is this world coming to?
    Yesterday at 09:48:27 PM
  • indiansnation: Ok im looking for a rb,wr and te and im looking to move remaining picks in 2025
    Yesterday at 09:54:34 PM
  • indiansnation: I got 1st,2nd,4th and x2 5th rd picks
    Yesterday at 09:55:12 PM
  • indiansnation: Looking for starting,te and 1 more wr
    Yesterday at 09:56:08 PM
  • indiansnation: Lets get this done
    Yesterday at 09:56:21 PM
  • Brent: Still looking?
    Yesterday at 11:07:59 PM
  • Brent: Epcot Day
    Today at 11:01:26 AM
  • Rhino7: Have fun, the Guardians of the Galaxy ride is awesome
    Today at 11:12:42 AM
  • Daddy: Wow, Epcot is awesome!
    Today at 01:01:03 PM
  • Daddy: Live yo life
    Today at 01:01:43 PM
  • IndianaBuc: Oh how I love a rainstorm right before the race!!!
    Today at 01:43:17 PM
  • Brent: Yeah, I rode it last time.  I got innthe queue this morning and got a 230pm time.
    Today at 01:52:38 PM
  • BayAreaBallers: any golf fans in here the news on Grayson Murray is devastating and saddened to hear the cause of his sudden death
    Today at 02:14:33 PM
  • Daddy: Sad news. Remember that there are lots of Grayson Murray's around the world daily that cant hit a golf ball.
    Today at 03:01:47 PM
  • Daddy: Not to diminish his memory but i hope it draws more attention to those like him that happen to not be professional athletes.
    Today at 03:02:28 PM
  • Daddy: I feel most for his parents. Ive lost a child at an adult age. Its terrible. To out live your child is terrible.
    Today at 03:04:07 PM
  • Braves155: My heart goes out to any of those in here struggling.
    Today at 03:10:53 PM
  • Braves155: I've battled alcoholism, addiction & self-harm issues in the past. Still a daily struggle but I try to keep my head up
    Today at 03:12:03 PM
  • Daddy: You keep fighting Braves. You bring great joy to my life almost on the daily. Never give up.
    Today at 03:15:54 PM
  • STLBlues91: Ill be around the rest of the day for any trade talks
    Today at 03:45:33 PM
  • Jwalkerjr88: Same
    Today at 03:50:50 PM
  • BayAreaBallers: Yes daddy well said mental health should be talked about more
    Today at 04:18:01 PM
  • BayAreaBallers: It really puts things into perspective
    Today at 04:19:39 PM
  • Psychpop: @STLBlues91.  Who are you thinking of moving in a trade?
    Today at 05:13:46 PM
  • Braves155: Looking to deal in any sport
    Today at 05:18:11 PM
  • Braves155: PM Jwalker
    Today at 05:19:33 PM
  • Jwalkerjr88: Back braves
    Today at 05:24:45 PM
  • Braves155: Replied
    Today at 05:29:09 PM
  • BayAreaBallers: jwalker pm
    Today at 06:02:59 PM
  • Daddy: What two LIVE GMs will make the next deal? One thing i know for sure, the wait wont be long.
    Today at 06:04:01 PM
  • Braves155: They like to come in bunches!
    Today at 06:05:09 PM
  • BayAreaBallers: you might get one shortly if things progress
    Today at 06:06:09 PM
  • BayAreaBallers: jwalker replied
    Today at 06:19:35 PM
  • Jwalkerjr88: Back BAB
    Today at 06:33:24 PM
  • BayAreaBallers: back at ya jwalker
    Today at 06:34:01 PM