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Title: RC Decision - Wildcard Playoffs in 2013
Post by: Colby on May 01, 2012, 11:04:05 AM
MLB has moved to a two wildcard per league setup for this season.  We have decided to implement this in the 2013 season.  We need to determine the appropriate playoff scheduling for teams and then work from there.

My thoughts are that we have the following.

World Series = Last week of season and last full week of season (anywhere between 8-14 days)
LCS = One full week prior to WS
LDS = One full week prior to DS
WC Round = During same week as DS with winner essentially having two matchups that week
Title: Re: RC Decision - Wildcard Playoffs in 2013
Post by: Dan Wood on May 01, 2012, 11:48:24 AM
I'm going to argue that we don't have any sort of meaningful play during the last week of the season. Guys get benched, especially on good teams, even when they don't have injuries. That makes it tough because then we have essentially 5 weeks of playoffs. 1st WC, 2nd WC, LDS, LCS, and WS - and that is making the WS only a week.

It makes it difficult because I really don't think it makes sense to have 6 weeks on playoffs. We could also use the last week of the regular seasons stats as the "new" wildcard, without having a tie breaker. Then that leads to further tie breakers...it gets muddled to say the least. 
Title: Re: RC Decision - Wildcard Playoffs in 2013
Post by: Colby on May 01, 2012, 11:57:10 AM
I'm going to argue that we don't have any sort of meaningful play during the last week of the season. Guys get benched, especially on good teams, even when they don't have injuries. That makes it tough because then we have essentially 5 weeks of playoffs. 1st WC, 2nd WC, LDS, LCS, and WS - and that is making the WS only a week.

It makes it difficult because I really don't think it makes sense to have 6 weeks on playoffs. We could also use the last week of the regular seasons stats as the "new" wildcard, without having a tie breaker. Then that leads to further tie breakers...it gets muddled to say the least.

True true... what are we doing this year for the World Series?

I like the idea of the last week of the regular season stats as the wildcard round.  The regular season gets settled first, then tiebreakers are applied, and then the final week scores between the wildcard teams are tabulated.  If the RC really wanted it, we could put that in place this season without a problem.
Title: Re: RC Decision - Wildcard Playoffs in 2013
Post by: Dan Wood on May 01, 2012, 12:27:01 PM
We are doing the same thing as last year...which to the best of my knowledge was no games on final week of the season. If I am mistaken, then (and I know Rob was in favor of this) then we could implement it - as the schedule has been fluid thus far and it is still early
Title: Re: RC Decision - Wildcard Playoffs in 2013
Post by: Colby on May 01, 2012, 01:40:56 PM
We are doing the same thing as last year...which to the best of my knowledge was no games on final week of the season. If I am mistaken, then (and I know Rob was in favor of this) then we could implement it - as the schedule has been fluid thus far and it is still early

 :iatp:
Title: Re: RC Decision - Wildcard Playoffs in 2013
Post by: h4cheng on May 01, 2012, 02:12:50 PM
I would support the addition of a WC spot iff it does not prolong the playoffs.
Title: Re: RC Decision - Wildcard Playoffs in 2013
Post by: Eric on May 01, 2012, 02:31:53 PM
I would support the addition of a WC spot iff it does not prolong the playoffs.

For what it is worth :iatp:
Title: Re: RC Decision - Wildcard Playoffs in 2013
Post by: VolsRaysBucs on May 01, 2012, 04:49:49 PM
I would support the addition of a WC spot iff it does not prolong the playoffs.
:iatp:
Title: Re: RC Decision - Wildcard Playoffs in 2013
Post by: h4cheng on May 02, 2012, 10:28:54 AM
One way to simulate the WC playoff game is to look at the highest daily score of the two WC teams in the final week of regular season, and have that as the tie breaker / playoff game.
Title: Re: RC Decision - Wildcard Playoffs in 2013
Post by: Colby on May 02, 2012, 11:00:54 AM
One way to simulate the WC playoff game is to look at the highest daily score of the two WC teams in the final week of regular season, and have that as the tie breaker / playoff game.

I like that idea to a point.  This is fantasy baseball and a high daily score could be biased by the number of SPs pitching that day.
Title: Re: RC Decision - Wildcard Playoffs in 2013
Post by: Dan Wood on May 02, 2012, 12:14:22 PM
I like that idea to a point.  This is fantasy baseball and a high daily score could be biased by the number of SPs pitching that day.

 :iatp:
Title: Re: RC Decision - Wildcard Playoffs in 2013
Post by: Eric on May 02, 2012, 12:25:10 PM
I like that idea to a point.  This is fantasy baseball and a high daily score could be biased by the number of SPs pitching that day.

:iatp:

I prefer the last week of the regular season, not just the last day (or whatever it may be).
Title: Re: RC Decision - Wildcard Playoffs in 2013
Post by: kangol on May 02, 2012, 06:30:53 PM
i like the idea of adding WC teams

maybe a 3 or 4 day matchup between the WC teams
Title: Re: RC Decision - Wildcard Playoffs in 2013
Post by: Colby on May 07, 2012, 01:54:18 PM
:bump:
Title: Re: RC Decision - Wildcard Playoffs in 2013
Post by: shooter47 on May 11, 2012, 11:07:51 AM
After reading this over here is my take on some of the main points. 

World series should be two weeks long and be played out the last two full weeks of the season.

League Championship Series should be one week long and played a week before the world series.

Division Series one week long and played a week before the LCS.

This makes the playoffs 4 weeks long. MLB is implementing a one game playoff but this seems impossible for us to mimic. I don't see a highest daily scoring option in the last regular season week being fair to simulate the one game playoff that MLB will be using.  I also don't think that a 3 or 4 day matchup would work. I see two viable ways of handling adding an extra wildcard team.

1) Add a 5th week to the playoffs before the division series and have the two wildcard teams from each league play a week long matchup.

2) Keep the playoffs the same length at 4 weeks and have the final regular season week matchup determine the winner of the Wildcard.  The 2 wildcard teams in each league would be determined by the final standings and their scores in the final week would be compared and the higher scoring team would advance to the playoffs as the wildcard team.

My vote would be for option #2.  This option seems to mimic the one game playoff the best and also does not affect the current playoff schedule. 
Title: Re: RC Decision - Wildcard Playoffs in 2013
Post by: h4cheng on May 11, 2012, 11:35:05 AM
I am on board with option #2 as well.
Title: Re: RC Decision - Wildcard Playoffs in 2013
Post by: rcankosy on May 11, 2012, 11:53:26 AM
I would be in favor of option # 1.  My concern with option # 2 if I am understanding it correctly would be that 1 of the WC teams could have a vastly easier schedule the last week of the season than the other WC team.  I think that the 2 WC teams have to face each other or it defeats the purpose of having the additional WC team.
Title: Re: RC Decision - Wildcard Playoffs in 2013
Post by: Colby on May 11, 2012, 12:06:24 PM
I would be in favor of option # 1.  My concern with option # 1 if I am understanding it correctly would be that 1 of the WC teams could have a vastly easier schedule the last week of the season than the other WC team.  I think that the 2 WC teams have to face each other or it defeats the purpose of having the additional WC team.

I vote for #2... fantasy schedules don't matter.  Essentially, the regular season standings would be determined and then the final wee's fantasy points of the two wildcard teams would be compared to determine the team that advances.
Title: Re: RC Decision - Wildcard Playoffs in 2013
Post by: Dan Wood on May 12, 2012, 08:27:40 PM
I vote we leave it as is...in real life it is one game, which I view as kind of superfluous...No team really benefits, we don't get playoff bonuses etc...so I vote nay on the whole change
Title: Re: RC Decision - Wildcard Playoffs in 2013
Post by: VolsRaysBucs on May 13, 2012, 10:31:31 AM
I am on board with option 2
Title: Re: RC Decision - Wildcard Playoffs in 2013
Post by: Colby on May 15, 2012, 01:57:45 PM
Option #2 - Colby, VolsRaysBucs, h4cheng, shooter47
Option #1 - rcankosy
Against additional WC - Dan Wood

It appears as if we have a majority for implementing the WC change seamlessly this season. :judge:
Title: RC Decision - Wildcard Playoffs in 2013
Post by: kungfuwig on May 20, 2012, 05:33:59 PM
Of the two options posed above I would rather go with option 2. That being said, I do not think this would be easy to mimic the one game playoff so keeping it as is could be a better option.


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Title: Re: RC Decision - Wildcard Playoffs in 2013
Post by: Colby on May 20, 2012, 07:42:29 PM
Option #2 - Colby, VolsRaysBucs, h4cheng, shooter47, kungfuwig
Option #1 - rcankosy
Against additional WC - Dan Wood

Wildcard round is effectively a matchup between the 4th and 5th best teams within the last week of the regular season. :judge:
Title: Re: RC Decision - Wildcard Playoffs in 2013
Post by: rcankosy on August 13, 2012, 12:30:54 PM
Are the Rangers facing the Red Sox this week to determine which of the 2 WC teams will move on to the playoffs?

Same question for the Nationals and the Astros in the NL.

Is the regular season effectively already over?
Title: Re: RC Decision - Wildcard Playoffs in 2013
Post by: h4cheng on August 13, 2012, 12:37:59 PM
My interpretation is that this week is used to determine both which 2 teams would be the two wild card teams AND which of the two wild card teams would qualify for the playoffs.

For this week, if :OAK: to go 0-8 and score 100 points, :TEX: to go 8-0, and :BOS: goes 4-4 and scores 200 points then :TEX: and :BOS: would both make the playoffs along with :NYY: and :CLE:

NL is much more open :STL: and :LAD: are in for sure, the wildcard spots and NL east is still up for grabs.
Title: Re: RC Decision - Wildcard Playoffs in 2013
Post by: Colby on August 14, 2012, 06:11:30 PM
Howe is correct.  The winners of the wildcards and the final regular season standings are decided this week.  Essentially, the regular season standings are decided first, and then whichever of the two wildcard teams had the highest score this week will advance.
Title: RC Decision - Wildcard Playoffs in 2013
Post by: Brewers GM on August 15, 2012, 07:33:17 PM
Interesting. I had missed all of this, not that it would have changed my approach but good to know.