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Dynasty NHL / Re: Extension cost discussion
« on: April 26, 2024, 03:11:47 PM »
Referendum on "Dynasty" aside I think the changes we're talking about are minor but worth discussing.

1) Small static factor adjustment.

Would like to hear more opinions on this.  I kinda feel like $25k is the sweetspot when you comp real life contracts down to fantasy point production.  There's lots of cap space out there in this league right now.  I don't know that lowering this factor really helps the health and balance of the league.  Moreover, it seems like everyone so far supports the idea of adding elements that create more turnover, and this has the reverse effect.  Also, as Snug pointed out - there was actually a reduction in total FP from last year to this year - we're very close to the same total FP as when we created the $25k/point factor.  I think this is something to watch - if there's a significant increase or decrease in total FP in the league in the future, then we need to consider revising the factor.

2) Cash trading cap.

Would like to hear more justification for this.  How does it help?  Our broad rules on cash trades have always benefited rebuilding teams.  It's also a good trade tool - if we're trying to create more trade buzz and general activity across the league, how does reducing it help?

3) Shorter contract extensions.

I'm intrigued by this idea as a tool to generate more turnover.  Just know that we would not see much of an effect for 3-5 years. 

I think that $25k per point is high if the plan is for us to rebuild with our prospects. I'll have to let most of mine walk.

I think there should be a different multiplier for D than there is for LW/C/RW. Extending defensemen is really not affordable

Prospect extension cost is $17.5K per point with the discount.  I think that 30% discount has always made building from the ground up the ultimate strategy here. 

I'm not in support of a different multiplier for D-men.  We did that in the past before we had Blocked Shots as a stat category, but I don't see it as necessary now.  When you're paying a flat fee per fantasy point it washes out any need for position bias. 

I am good with discussing but none of these changes even if agreed upon should happen immediately.  Especially changes to extension rules.  They should always be delayed by a season.

 :iatp:

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Dynasty NHL: Transactions / Maple Leafs/Red Wings trade
« on: April 25, 2024, 03:27:19 PM »
Detroit Red Wings trade
2024 Draft Pick, Round 2 Pick 2      
            
Toronto Maple Leafs trade   
Barrett Hayton

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Dynasty NHL: Transactions / Bruins/Maple Leafs trade
« on: April 25, 2024, 03:25:03 PM »
Boston Bruins trade   
Jonathan Quick

Toronto Maple Leafs trade
2024 Draft Pick, Round 2 Pick 9   

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Dynasty NHL: Transactions / Bruins/Coyotes trade
« on: April 25, 2024, 02:56:58 PM »
Coyotes trades
Josh Morrissey

Boston trades
Dakota Joshua
Trevor Moore

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Dynasty NHL / Re: Extension cost discussion
« on: April 25, 2024, 02:06:13 PM »
I think in its totality the extension setup we have is plenty conducive to building a "Dynasty".  The top players in the league (top 50 or so) cost about the same as they would have cost before the change.  It's the next level of 'above average' to 'average' talent that are more pricey than they were in the old extension rules.  Teams have tough decisions in this bracket of talent.  And that's true of the NHL as well.  Most competitive teams will spend big on their top line, top D pairing and their Goalie, then add veterans and young guns to fill out their middle six and beyond.  A guy like Tyler Bertuzzi, who I'd consider 'above average', but not elite, will inevitably end up in Free Agency.  I think that's how it should be.

This setup certainly makes it harder to maintain a full, deep roster - even if you've built it from the bottom up with lots of Prospect Discounts.  But, Free Agency is the tool to make up for that. 

And, let's face it - Hockey is not a sport that's conducive to "Dynasties" in the traditional sense.  When was the last real NHL dynasty?  The Oilers in the 80's?  There's just too much parity in the modern NHL.  I'm fairly certain that our player turnover with these rules is still less than actual NHL teams player turnover. 

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Dynasty NHL / Re: Official Trade Block/Negotiations Thread
« on: April 25, 2024, 01:25:45 PM »
If any contending teams are seeking a productive backup, short term goalie option, I'd be happy to trade the extension rights to Jonathan Quick.  He renews at $3.5M.  Contract is voidable if he retires.  Would do this for a draft pick. 

OR, I'll extend him and pay 100% for the 24/25 season in exchange for a better return. 

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Dynasty NHL: Transactions / Bruins extensions
« on: April 25, 2024, 01:22:50 PM »
Quinton Byfield
$3,972,500 for 5 years with Prospect Extension Discount

Jonas Brodin
$3,950,000 for 3 years

Anthony Stolarz
$2,380,000 for 5 years with Prospect Extension Discount

Josh Morrissey
$7,125,000 for 5 years

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Dynasty NHL: Processed on Fantrax / Re: More Ottawa moves
« on: April 25, 2024, 01:09:45 PM »
 :judge:

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Dynasty NHL: Processed on Fantrax / Re: Ottawa moves
« on: April 25, 2024, 01:09:07 PM »
 :judge:

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Dynasty NHL / Re: Extension cost discussion
« on: April 24, 2024, 10:05:07 AM »
I pulled this out of the Q&A thread since it's as good a time as any to have this discussion.  It's been a couple years using this method - how does everyone feel about it?

I still like the simplicity of it and I like what it does to inject good talent into Free Agency.  Any numbers we use are going to be arbitrary in some sense.  Unless we match their real life contracts. 

I do agree on the sluggish trade environment.  Though I think the trade environment was sluggish before this change as well.  As we've settled in over the years we have fewer and fewer trades.  New GM's have been the only active trade partners.  So I think it's partly a condition of longtime GM's sticking with their youth and cost controlled contracts and playing for the long haul.  In early years we have a good number of teams playing it the way Cedric is now - going for the gold at all costs, future be damned.  As GM's gain tenure they seem to get more and more conservative.

That's my initial thoughts.  As always I'm open to change if the league is.  Let's hear what you all think.

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