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Fantasy Leagues => Franchise GM: Transactions => Franchise GM => MLB Leagues => Franchise GM: Invalid Transactions => Topic started by: Brent on June 23, 2013, 12:57:49 AM
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What can I do with a guy like Nishioka who signed in Japan and forfeited is MLB contract?
MI Nishioka, Tsuyoshi, $2m (2014)
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It's treated the same as a player retiring. Unfortunately, you are on the hook for the remainder of the contract. One option is to do a buy-out where you pay his 2014 salary this year and get it off your books for 2014. Hope this helps :toast:
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He can be dropped now for a $1.8m (2013) and $1.2m (2014) cap hit. If you wait until the trade deadline the cap hit is $1.5m in 2013 and $1m in 2014.
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He can be dropped now for a $1.8m (2013) and $1.2m (2014) cap hit. If you wait until the trade deadline the cap hit is $1.5m in 2013 and $1m in 2014.
Isn't a 1.8m cap hit actually a 2.0m cap hit?
"The hit against the cap is rounded to the nearest $500,000. Therefore, if it ends up being less than $250,000, the hit to the cap will be zero for that year." - Rulebook/Releasing Players
Or is it that the 1.8m (2013) + 1.2m (2013) = 3.0m (then rounded to the nearest 500k) and after that you can pay the 3.0m all this season or use the 1.1 x 3.0m buyout clause and pay the 3.3m over the two seasons?
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Isn't a 1.8m cap hit actually a 2.0m cap hit?
"The hit against the cap is rounded to the nearest $500,000. Therefore, if it ends up being less than $250,000, the hit to the cap will be zero for that year." - Rulebook/Releasing Players
Or is it that the 1.8m (2013) + 1.2m (2013) = 3.0m (then rounded to the nearest 500k) and after that you can pay the 3.0m all this season or use the 1.1 x 3.0m buyout clause and pay the 3.3m over the two seasons?
The cap hits would be 2M and 1M. 1.8M and 1.2M would be the cap hits in Moneyball or New Era where salaries are rounded to the closest 100,000.
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Shooter is correct. Different league rules.
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The cap hits would be 2M and 1M. 1.8M and 1.2M would be the cap hits in Moneyball or New Era where salaries are rounded to the closest 100,000.
Can I just buyout and pay 3m this season?
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The buyout for 2013 would be $4.5m. There is an additional 10% tax on the remaining $4m for buyouts.
http://www.profsl.com/smf/index.php?topic=32.0
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The buyout for 2013 would be $4.5m. There is an additional 10% tax on the remaining $4m for buyouts.
http://www.profsl.com/smf/index.php?topic=32.0
No, 1.2 is nearest to 1m. The rules state rounded to the nearest.
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The correct buyout for 2013 would be $3.5M. Nishiokia can be released with a $2M cap hit in 2013 and a 1M cap hit in 2014. This totals to a lump sum of $3M. The 10% tax is equal to $0.3M which rounds to $0.5M. Add this number to the total lump sum of the contract and you get a $3.5M buyout in 2013. See examples in the following link.
http://www.profsl.com/smf/index.php?topic=32.0
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The rule clearly states that the 10% penalty is on the entire original remaining amount, NOT on the discounted cap hits. The buyout would be $4.5m unless the rule is re-written.
Contract Buyout
Money owed to a player released under contract may be financed through a contract buyout. This can be done by adding up the total remaining contract amount, multiplying it by 1.1 rounded up to the nearest $500k. This amount may be divided up any way you choose as long as the number of years is not more than what it was before AND that no salary owed in any year is more than an amount in a prior year. I will use some current examples to highlight the effects of the buyout and its 10% tax.
Jones, Andruw, Released Under Contract ($5m in 2009, $3m from 2010 to 2014)
Jones' salary hit doesn't fall under the 90/60/30 cap hit rules because these liabilities were inherited. The lump sum as of 2009 is $20m. Applying the buyout tax of 10% ($2m), and the cap hit can be consolidated into $22m for 2009.
Riske, David, Released Under Contract, $2.5m in 2010, $4m in 2009
The Brew Crew is $5.5m under the cap, but without Riske in the situation, they are $8m under the cap. The lump sum for Riske's contract is $6.5m (10% is $650k, rounded up to $1m), so the buyout lump sum is $7.5m. They may opt to consolidate the cap hit into 2009.
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The rule clearly states that the 10% penalty is on the entire original remaining amount, NOT on the discounted cap hits. The buyout would be $4.5m unless the rule is re-written.
Contract Buyout
Money owed to a player released under contract may be financed through a contract buyout. This can be done by adding up the total remaining contract amount, multiplying it by 1.1 rounded up to the nearest $500k. This amount may be divided up any way you choose as long as the number of years is not more than what it was before AND that no salary owed in any year is more than an amount in a prior year. I will use some current examples to highlight the effects of the buyout and its 10% tax.
Jones, Andruw, Released Under Contract ($5m in 2009, $3m from 2010 to 2014)
Jones' salary hit doesn't fall under the 90/60/30 cap hit rules because these liabilities were inherited. The lump sum as of 2009 is $20m. Applying the buyout tax of 10% ($2m), and the cap hit can be consolidated into $22m for 2009.
Riske, David, Released Under Contract, $2.5m in 2010, $4m in 2009
The Brew Crew is $5.5m under the cap, but without Riske in the situation, they are $8m under the cap. The lump sum for Riske's contract is $6.5m (10% is $650k, rounded up to $1m), so the buyout lump sum is $7.5m. They may opt to consolidate the cap hit into 2009.
The examples state that the players were released under contract but they were also written a long time ago. They also show contracts with values that differ from year to year. Maybe Colby can explain how this rule is to be interpreted.
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The examples state that the players were released under contract but they were also written a long time ago. They also show contracts with values that differ from year to year. Maybe Colby can explain how this rule is to be interpreted.
That would be great.
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The rule clearly states that the 10% penalty is on the entire original remaining amount, NOT on the discounted cap hits. The buyout would be $4.5m unless the rule is re-written.
Contract Buyout
Money owed to a player released under contract may be financed through a contract buyout. This can be done by adding up the total remaining contract amount, multiplying it by 1.1 rounded up to the nearest $500k. This amount may be divided up any way you choose as long as the number of years is not more than what it was before AND that no salary owed in any year is more than an amount in a prior year. I will use some current examples to highlight the effects of the buyout and its 10% tax.
Jones, Andruw, Released Under Contract ($5m in 2009, $3m from 2010 to 2014)
Jones' salary hit doesn't fall under the 90/60/30 cap hit rules because these liabilities were inherited. The lump sum as of 2009 is $20m. Applying the buyout tax of 10% ($2m), and the cap hit can be consolidated into $22m for 2009.
Riske, David, Released Under Contract, $2.5m in 2010, $4m in 2009
The Brew Crew is $5.5m under the cap, but without Riske in the situation, they are $8m under the cap. The lump sum for Riske's contract is $6.5m (10% is $650k, rounded up to $1m), so the buyout lump sum is $7.5m. They may opt to consolidate the cap hit into 2009.
I am talking about releasing a player under contract, the 10% tax is only if a team decides to buyout over multiple years. All the money owed upon release can be paid up front for no tax and the buyout would be merely 3m. Per the rules.
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Last season I utilized a contract buyout for Ronnie Paulino. There was some question regarding the rules at that time because Colby, one of the original founders of Franchise GM had a different interpretation of the rules than Roy. Colby claimed that you dropped the players and their remaining contract amounts were multiplied by 1.1%. Roy overruled that interpretation and stated that I was to add the total amount of the current contracts and then multiply by 1.1% (in each case rounding up to the nearest $.5m).
In regards to MI Nishioka, Tsuyoshi, $2m (2014), the buyout is $4.5m
$2m (2013) + $2m (2013) + $0.5m (1.1% buyout tax) = $4.5m
Roy made this ruling on August 8, 2012 in a post I no longer can access. I kept the PM with the ruling link. Maybe someone with moderator's rights can access this link:
http://www.profsl.com/smf/index.php?action=post;msg=370169;topic=67744.0
In short, we cannot drop a player and then get a reduced buyout amount. We have to eat the entire amount and add the 1.1% buyout fee (rounded up to the nearest $0.5m unless the amount is less than $0.25m).
I'm not sure about spreading a buyout over multiple years when you are still required to pay the full amount of the original contract plus 1.1%. See the current rules regarding contract drops and their corresponding percentage drops in the rules below.
---Any player dropped before the trade deadline still has part of his contract count against the cap in the following manner: Current year: 90%, Next year: 60%, All future years after: 30%.
---If the player is dropped after the trade deadline, then the hit to the cap changes to 75%, 50%, 25%, respectively.