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Fantasy Leagues => NHL Leagues => Franchise NHL => Topic started by: PsychoticPondGoons on September 13, 2016, 03:57:25 PM
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We're 1 year away from an Expansion Draft in Franchise NHL.
These are your 2 options as owners for players you want to protect in the Expansion Draft:
(1) 7 forwards, 3 defensemen & 1 goaltender
(2) 8 skaters (forwards/defensemen) & 1 goaltender
All MiLR prospects are automatically protected.
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Just some thoughts
Columbus Blue Jackets :CLS:
8 Skaters & 1 Goalie option at this point for the BJs
- Mikko Koivu, $1.5m (2016-2019)
- Brandon Dubinsky, $6.0m (2016-2020)
- Michael Raffl, $3.0m (2015-2018)
- Jackub Voracek, $5.9m (2015-2019)
- Shayne Gostisbehere, $0.5m (2015-2018-EL)
- Dion Phaneuf, $5.1m (2016-2019)
- Jake Muzzin, $6.2m (2015-2019)
- Shea Weber, $7.0m (2015-2019)
- Steve Mason, $7.6m (2016-2020)
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We're 1 year away from an Expansion Draft in Franchise NHL.
These are your 2 options as owners for players you want to protect in the Expansion Draft:
(1) 7 forwards, 3 defensemen & 1 goaltender
(2) 8 skaters (forwards/defensemen) & 1 goaltender
All MiLR prospects are automatically protected.
Something to think about for sure!
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I don't think I have that many players worth protecting :rofl:
Is it going to follow the NHL rules where a player with two years or less of pro experience is exempt from the expansion draft(such as our first round picks this year should we sign them) or will anyone with a contract be eligible to be picked by Vegas?
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I think FNHL player with less than 2yr should be exempt. Prospects on MiLRs shouldnt count. Thats how I read it.
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As of this moment Id protect these boys
7F
Patrice Bergeron, $5.4m (2013-2017-FP-7.1 )
Darren Helm, $1.5m (2016-2019)
Andre Burakovsky, $1.5m (2014-2017-EL)
Oliver Bjorkstrand, $0.4m (2015-2018-EL)
David Pastrnak, $1.5m (2015-2018-EL)
Jimmy Hayes, $2.1m (2015-2018)
Kevin Hayes, $2.1m (2016-2019)
3 D
Tyler Myers, $2.1m (2014-2017)
Torey Krug, $5.9m (2014-2018)
Morgan Rielly, $4.2m (2016-2019)
1G
Tukka Rask, $4.2m (2013-2017-FP-5.5 )
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As of this moment Id protect these boys
7F
Patrice Bergeron, $5.4m (2013-2017-FP-7.1 )
Darren Helm, $1.5m (2016-2019)
Andre Burakovsky, $1.5m (2014-2017-EL)
Oliver Bjorkstrand, $0.4m (2015-2018-EL)
David Pastrnak, $1.5m (2015-2018-EL)
Jimmy Hayes, $2.1m (2015-2018)
Kevin Hayes, $2.1m (2016-2019)
3 D
Tyler Myers, $2.1m (2014-2017)
Torey Krug, $5.9m (2014-2018)
Morgan Rielly, $4.2m (2016-2019)
1G
Tukka Rask, $4.2m (2013-2017-FP-5.5 )
:iatp: Good list man
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Just some thoughts
Columbus Blue Jackets :CLS:
8 Skaters & 1 Goalie option at this point for the BJs
- Mikko Koivu, $1.5m (2016-2019)
- Brandon Dubinsky, $6.0m (2016-2020)
- Michael Raffl, $3.0m (2015-2018)
- Jackub Voracek, $5.9m (2015-2019)
- Shayne Gostisbehere, $0.5m (2015-2018-EL)
- Dion Phaneuf, $5.1m (2016-2019)
- Jake Muzzin, $6.2m (2015-2019)
- Shea Weber, $7.0m (2015-2019)
- Steve Mason, $7.6m (2016-2020)
Option 1 gives teams the opportunity to protect 11 players while Option 2 teams can only protect 9.
Owners will have a tough time deciding between players to protect.
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We're 1 year away from an Expansion Draft in Franchise NHL.
These are your 2 options as owners for players you want to protect in the Expansion Draft:
(1) 7 forwards, 3 defensemen & 1 goaltender
(2) 8 skaters (forwards/defensemen) & 1 goaltender
All MiLR prospects are automatically protected.
Never seen an expansion fantasy draft but what's wrong with following exactly what the NHL does?
We try to model our league after the big boys don't we?
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I guess it would be rather unfair for the expansion team to get a crack at picking up 3 goalies when they pick their roster next June. 1 goalie is realistic, I can understand 2, but getting 3 goalies like NHL's Vegas will be is over the top.
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:NYR: Rangers would look to protect these guys
7F
Rick Nash, $5.9m (2010-2018-FP-7.8 :NYR:)
Ryan Kesler, $2.6m (2016-2019)
Zemgus Girgensons, $1.9m (2015-2018)
Daniel Sedin, $3.0m (2016-2019)
Beau Bennett, $0.2m (2015-2017)
Josh Anderson, $0.3m (2015-2017)
Jonathan Drouin, $1.5m (2016-2019)
3 D
Erik Gudbranson, $2.6m (2016-2019)
Johnny Boychuk, $8.0m (2016-2021)
Adam Clendening, $0.9m (2014-2017-EL)
1G
Martin Jones, $5.5m (2015-2019)
Players with 2yrs or less FNHL experience automatically protected. That's what we understand to be the rule.
Patrik Laine, $3.0m (2016-2019-EL)
Dylan Larkin, $2.0m (2015-2018-EL)
Andrey Vasilevskiy, $2.0m (2015-2018-EL)
Philipp Grubauer, $4.5m (2015-2018)
Charlie Lindgren, $1.5m (2016-2019)
Phillip Di Giuseppe, $0.9m (2016-2019-EL)
Phillip Danault, $1.0m (2015-2018-EL)
Alan Quine, $0.2m (2016-2019-EL)
Kevin Fiala, $2.0m (2016-2019-EL)
Yohann Auvitu, $0.5m (2016-2018)
Nathan Lieuwen, $0.3m (2016-2018)
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:NYR: Rangers would look to protect these guys
7F
Rick Nash, $5.9m (2010-2018-FP-7.8 :NYR:)
Ryan Kesler, $2.6m (2016-2019)
Zemgus Girgensons, $1.9m (2015-2018)
Daniel Sedin, $3.0m (2016-2019)
Beau Bennett, $0.2m (2015-2017)
Josh Anderson, $0.3m (2015-2017)
Jonathan Drouin, $1.5m (2016-2019)
3 D
Erik Gudbranson, $2.6m (2016-2019)
Johnny Boychuk, $8.0m (2016-2021)
Adam Clendening, $0.9m (2014-2017-EL)
1G
Martin Jones, $5.5m (2015-2019)
Players with 2yrs or less FNHL experience automatically protected. That's what we understand to be the rule.
Patrik Laine, $3.0m (2016-2019-EL)
Dylan Larkin, $2.0m (2015-2018-EL)
Andrey Vasilevskiy, $2.0m (2015-2018-EL)
Philipp Grubauer, $4.5m (2015-2018)
Charlie Lindgren, $1.5m (2016-2019)
Phillip Di Giuseppe, $0.9m (2016-2019-EL)
Phillip Danault, $1.0m (2015-2018-EL)
Alan Quine, $0.2m (2016-2019-EL)
Kevin Fiala, $2.0m (2016-2019-EL)
Yohann Auvitu, $0.5m (2016-2018)
Nathan Lieuwen, $0.3m (2016-2018)
Looks about right for the Auto protected players with 2yr experience or less.
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Looks about right for the Auto protected players with 2yr experience or less.
How many games qualifies for less than 2 years experience?
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How many games qualifies for less than 2 years experience?
If the player has been on the active roster for 2yr of less they are not exposed in the Expansion Draft.
That way a franchise's youngest and best prospects are naturally protected for the team. :judge:
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If the player has been on the active roster for 2yr of less they are not exposed in the Expansion Draft.
That way a franchise's youngest and best prospects are naturally protected for the team. :judge:
Las Vegas will be the eighth team in the Pacific Division and the 15th team in the Western Conference. The NHL has 16 teams in the Eastern Conference.
The following rules were approved for the 2017 Expansion Draft:
Protected Lists
* Clubs will have two options for players they wish to protect in the Expansion Draft:
a) Seven forwards, three defensemen and one goaltender
b) Eight skaters (forwards/defensemen) and one goaltender
* All players who have currently effective and continuing "No Movement" clauses at the time of the Expansion Draft (and who to decline to waive such clauses) must be protected (and will be counted toward their club's applicable protection limits).
* All first- and second-year professionals, as well as all unsigned draft choices, will be exempt from selection (and will not be counted toward their club's applicable protection limits).
Player Exposure Requirements
* All Clubs must meet the following minimum requirements regarding players exposed for selection in the Expansion Draft:
i) One defenseman who is a) under contract in 2017-18 and b) played in 40 or more NHL games the prior season OR played in 70 or more NHL games in the prior two seasons.
ii) Two forwards who are a) under contract in 2017-18 and b) played in 40 or more NHL games the prior season OR played in 70 or more NHL games in the prior two seasons.
iii) One goaltender who is under contract in 2017-18 or will be a restricted free agent at the expiration of his current contract immediately prior to 2017-18. If the club elects to make a restricted free agent goaltender available in order to meet this requirement, that goaltender must have received his qualifying offer prior to the submission of the club's protected list.
* Players with potential career-ending injuries who have missed more than the previous 60 consecutive games (or who otherwise have been confirmed to have a career-threatening injury) may not be used to satisfy a club's player exposure requirements, unless approval is received from the NHL. Such players also may be deemed exempt from selection by the League.
Regulations Relating to Expansion Franchise
* The Las Vegas franchise must select one player from each presently existing club for a total of 30 players (not including additional players who may be acquired as the result of violations of the Expansion Draft rules).
* The Las Vegas franchise must select the following number of players at each position: 14 forwards, nine defensemen and three goaltenders.
* The Las Vegas franchise must select a minimum of 20 players who are under contract for the 2017-18 season.
* The Las Vegas franchise must select players with an aggregate Expansion Draft value that is between 60-100% of the prior season's upper limit for the salary cap.
* The Las Vegas franchise may not buy out any of the players selected in the Expansion Draft earlier than the summer following its first season.
The 30 NHL Clubs must submit their Protection List by 5:00 P.M. ET on Saturday, June 17, 2017. The Las Vegas team must submit their Expansion Draft Selections by 5:00 P.M. ET on June 20 and the announcement of their selections will be released on made on June 21.
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I'm sure once June comes around each nhl team will have a list of players ineligible for the expansion draft that don't need to be protected because they don't meet the two year pro requirement.
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I'm sure once June comes around each nhl team will have a list of players ineligible for the expansion draft that don't need to be protected because they don't meet the two year pro requirement.
That's true however we will use FNHL active service time for prospects promoted to the Active Roster.
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FLORIDA PANTHERS ADVANCE PLANNING FOR EXPANSION DRAFT NEXT YEAR.
Seven forwards, three defensemen and one goaltender.
7 Forwards
Ryan O'Reilly, $3.8m (2016-2019)
Evgeny Kuznetsov, $7.1m (2016-2020)
Alex Killorn, $3.1m (2016-2019)
Nino Niederreiter, $3.2m (2015-2018)
Richard Panik, $0.4m (2015-2017)
Tyler Ennis, $3.4m (2015-2018)
Cedric Paquette, $0.2m (2016-2018)
3 Defensemen
Aaron Ekblad, $4.5m (2015-2019-FP-6.0 :FLO:)
Cody Ceci, $1.5m (2014-2017)
PK Subban, $6.6m (2016-2020)
1 Goalie
Carey Price, $10.4m (2016-2021)
Good planning exercise.
I think Armia might be exempt with only 2yrs of Active service in FNHL but I'd have to do a search to verify.
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At this rate Flames will have avail roster spots to stash stars from other teams. No joke. At the end of the season Flames can trade for your stars and send them back for a price. :toast: WIN WIN
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1. Jonathan Toews, $6.4m (2014-2018)
2. Brayden Schenn, $6.9m (2016-2020)
3. Nick Foligno, $4.5m (2016-2019)
4. Duncan Keith, $5.5m (2010-2018)
5.
6.
7.
8.
1. Anton Forsberg, $3.5m (2016-2019)
This is a really young :EDM: team I got, so most of my guys should be protected. Eichel, Reinhart, Ritchie, Soshnikov, Horvat, Tkachuk, etc. I got plenty of wiggle room if a few barely miss.
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7f 3d 1g :WAS-NHL:
1. Nicklas Backstrom, $6.0m (2014-2018)
2. Mikael Granlund, $2.9m (2016-2019)
3. Aleksander Barkov, $4.3m (2016-2020-FP-5.7:WAS-NHL3:)
4. Alex Ovechkin, $7.2m (2013-2018-FP-9.5:WAS-NHL3:)
5. Valeri Nichushkin, $2.0m (2015-2018)
6. Tyler Toffoli, $6.5m (2016-2020)
7. Nail Yakupov, $1.5m (2016-2018)
1. Ryan Suter, $5.7m (2014-2018)
2. Nathan Beaulieu, $2.5m (2016-2019)
3. Oliver Ekman-Larsson, $7.0m (2016-2020)
1. Kari Lehtonen, $9.7m (2015-2020)
Kapanen appears to be a casualty here, but we are long ways away and a lot can change. Not even sure I protect a G to be honest. My D positions are all locks with no competition. Byron has been surprisingly amazing this year, could beat out Yak for that final spot.
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7f 3d 1g :WAS-NHL:
1. Nicklas Backstrom, $6.0m (2014-2018)
2. Mikael Granlund, $2.9m (2016-2019)
3. Aleksander Barkov, $4.3m (2016-2020-FP-5.7:WAS-NHL3:)
4. Alex Ovechkin, $7.2m (2013-2018-FP-9.5:WAS-NHL3:)
5. Valeri Nichushkin, $2.0m (2015-2018)
6. Tyler Toffoli, $6.5m (2016-2020)
7. Nail Yakupov, $1.5m (2016-2018)
1. Ryan Suter, $5.7m (2014-2018)
2. Nathan Beaulieu, $2.5m (2016-2019)
3. Oliver Ekman-Larsson, $7.0m (2016-2020)
1. Kari Lehtonen, $9.7m (2015-2020)
Kapanen appears to be a casualty here, but we are long ways away and a lot can change. Not even sure I protect a G to be honest. My D positions are all locks with no competition. Byron has been surprisingly amazing this year, could beat out Yak for that final spot.
Thought Kapanen would be protected with less than 2yr experience but seems your Caps activated his eligibility in 2014 so this is his 3rd yr in FNHL.
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Yes, this man is a fan of strategy when it comes to these entry level contracts. I don't think skaters in round 1 are worth the cost initially. After round 1 and Goalies are golden with those contracts, but not so much 1st round picks. Its worked out in some cases, but I appear to get burnt with Kap. He should of never been called up. Can't win them all :toast:
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Are franchised players automatically protected? I couldn't tell if that was the case, but you can't even trade those players.
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Just some thoughts
Columbus Blue Jackets :CLS:
8 Skaters & 1 Goalie option at this point for the BJs
- Mikko Koivu, $1.5m (2016-2019)
- Brandon Dubinsky, $6.0m (2016-2020)
- Michael Raffl, $3.0m (2015-2018)
- Jackub Voracek, $5.9m (2015-2019)
- Shayne Gostisbehere, $0.5m (2015-2018-EL)
- Dion Phaneuf, $5.1m (2016-2019)
- Jake Muzzin, $6.2m (2015-2019)
- Shea Weber, $7.0m (2015-2019)
- Steve Mason, $7.6m (2016-2020)
Update BLUE JACKETS PROTECTED LIST NOVEMBER 2016
8 SKATERS
Brandon Dubinsky, $4.5m (2016-2020-FP-6.0 :CLS:)
Scott Laughton, $1.0m (2016-2018)
Brayden McNabb, $3.0m (2016-2019)
Marco Scandella, $3.3m (2015-2018)
Dion Phaneuf, $5.1m (2016-2019)
Erik Karlsson, $7.2m (2014-2018)
Jake Muzzin, $6.2m (2015-2019)
Shea Weber, $7.0m (2015-2019)
1G
Jean-Francois Berube, $1.0m (2015-2017)
Exempt
Shayne Gostisbehere, $0.5m (2015-2018-EL)
Joel Armia, $2.1m (2016-2019)
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Are franchised players automatically protected? I couldn't tell if that was the case, but you can't even trade those players.
Franchise Players need to be protected if you want to keep them.
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:EDM: List
1. Jonathan Toews, $6.4m (2014-2018)
2. Brayden Schenn, $6.9m (2016-2020)
3. Nick Foligno, $4.5m (2016-2019)
4. Duncan Keith, $5.5m (2010-2018)
5. Bo Horvat, $2.1m (2016-2019)
6. Sam Reinhart, $2.1m (2016-2019-EL-FP-2.7 :EDM:)
7. Dmitry Orlov, $1.5m (2015-2018)
8. Nikita Zadorov, $1.5m (2015-2018)
1. Anton Forsberg, $3.5m (2016-2019)
After some research, Edmonton has found that Reinhart, Horvat and Zadorov were all called up in 2014-2015 season and must be protected. We still have a solid exempt list.
Exempt:
Esa Lindell, $0.5m (2016-2019-EL)
Nikita Soshnikov, $0.2m (2016-2018)
Matthew Tkachuk, $2.5m (2016-2018-EL)
Jack Eichel, $2.3m (2015-2018-EL-FP-3.0 :EDM:)
Brett Ritchie, $0.8m (2015-2018-EL)
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Got some questions to be answered.
1) what happens to players that are left off rosters do they go back to original owners if not taken in draft?
2) is vegas required to take certain amount of players from each team so not one team loses alot of players?
3) can a team pull back a player if a player gets taken.
4) if vegas takes a player from sharks can he trade that player to another team like the wild for example if the wild likes a certain player?
Just asking?
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Got some questions to be answered.
1) what happens to players that are left off rosters do they go back to original owners if not taken in draft?
2) is vegas required to take certain amount of players from each team so not one team loses alot of players?
3) can a team pull back a player if a player gets taken.
4) if vegas takes a player from sharks can he trade that player to another team like the wild for example if the wild likes a certain player?
Just asking?
I'll answer these best as possible, But PPG and PR will chime in.
1. You only lose players if they get drafted by Vegas
2. No, They can take whoever they want, as long as they are not protected.
3. No, you have to protect players before the draft.
4. After the draft, Vegas can do as they please, just like the other 30 teams. They can't trade with a team that has the same owner. That is the only restriction, but it is in place right now. Like I can't trade with Montreal, even though I don't run them. Conflict of interest.
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I will add a few questions, mostly about timing:
Will there be a grace period between the finals and the deadline to protect players ? I found that trading opens back up.
** FNHL Stanley Cup Champion crowned (scoring system updates overnight) & Trading Resumes April 10, 2017 10h00 ET
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I will add a few questions, mostly about timing:
Will there be a grace period between the finals and the deadline to protect players ? I found that trading opens back up.
** FNHL Stanley Cup Champion crowned (scoring system updates overnight) & Trading Resumes April 10, 2017 10h00 ET
Definitely. Expansion Draft will happen 1 wk before the 2017 August FNHL Contract Rollover period. So about 2wks before FNHL Free Agency starts, the FNHL Expansion Draft will take place publicly in an expansion draft thread.
So everyone's got liek 2.5 months to get their rosters ready for expansion draft exposure.
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Definitely. Expansion Draft will happen 1 wk before the 2017 August FNHL Contract Rollover period. So about 2wks before FNHL Free Agency starts, the FNHL Expansion Draft will take place publicly in an expansion draft thread.
So everyone's got liek 2.5 months to get their rosters ready for expansion draft exposure.
:iatp: correct
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:TBL: 's protected list
Forwards:
Nic Dowd
Alexander Wennberg
Steven Stamkos
Brendan Gallager
Reilly Smith
Marcus Johansson
Justin Abdelkader
Defensemen:
Alec Martinez
Rasmus Ristolainen
Justin Faulk
Goalie:
Ben Bishop
Don't believe Dowd is even eligible to be drafted but led me to realize why not post the "unprotected" & eligible to be drafted Bolts.
Eligible to be drafted by Vegas
C/LW/RW Tom Pyatt (Ottawa)
C/RW Ben Smith (Toronto)
D Paul Postma (Winnipeg)
D Justin Falk (Buffalo)
D Matt Tennyson (Carolina)
D Connor Carrick (Toronto)
D Brendan Smith (Detroit)
D Andrej Sekera (Edmonton)
G Antti Niemi (Dallas)
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:iatp: correct
We may need to space it out to allow 2 wks from the end of the Expansion Draft to the start of Free Agency.
Vegas needs time to draft.
FNHL Commish needs time to verify eligibility of Expansion Draft players picked by Vegas.
Time to clean up rosters for teams and Vegas.
Time to rollover all team contracts.
Thinking ahead Vegas Expansion Draft might take 3-5 days to complete. Just saying it might be longer than usual to get FA rolling or Expansion Draft might take place sooner.
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Ok question and this may have been covered already. Rookies and second year players are exempt from the expansion draft. So when is a second year player a 3rd year player? Lets use Connor McDavid as an example, when does he become a 3rd year guy? First day of the new season (2017-18) or after this current season ends?
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Ok question and this may have been covered already. Rookies and second year players are exempt from the expansion draft. So when is a second year player a 3rd year player? Lets use Connor McDavid as an example, when does he become a 3rd year guy? First day of the new season (2017-18) or after this current season ends?
easy. Any Entry level deal signed 2015 or later is exempt
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Haha thanks, i was trying to be lazy. Ended up reading some of the thread. Was thinking that but wanted to confirm. Thanks again
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easy. Any Entry level deal signed 2015 or later is exempt
:iatp: Jonathan is correct.
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Ok question and this may have been covered already. Rookies and second year players are exempt from the expansion draft. So when is a second year player a 3rd year player? Lets use Connor McDavid as an example, when does he become a 3rd year guy? First day of the new season (2017-18) or after this current season ends?
Some teams signed Prospects to 1yr deals and might have to dig up proof that their young active roster player is exempt because it might not be obvious from their current non-Entry Level contract.
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Forwards:
Leon Draisaitl, $3.0m (2014-2017-EL)
Ondrej Palat, $6.7m (2014-2018)
Alex Galchenyuk, $5.8m (2016-2020)
Kirill Kaprizov, $1.6m (2016-2019)
Kevin Labanc, $0.2m (2016-2018)
Jeff Skinner, $1.2m (2015-2018)
TJ Oshie, $5.5m (2015-2019)
Defense:
Erik Johnson, $6.3m (2014-2018)
Joel Edmundson, $2.5m (2016-2019)
Brian Dumoulin, $0.7m (2015-2018-EL)
Just out of curiousity. Would players like Labanc who were drafted in the late rounds of previous entry drafts(but not by a team in FNHL) have been eligible to be picked in the one we had in September or is the draft restricted to guys drafted by NHL teams that year?
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Just out of curiousity. Would players like Labanc who were drafted in the late rounds of previous entry drafts(but not by a team in FNHL) have been eligible to be picked in the one we had in September or is the draft restricted to guys drafted by NHL teams that year?
Short Ans is NO.
Only players eligible for same yr NHL draft as FNHL Draft can be picked.
Others that were passed over in older drafts are simply Free agents
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Forwards:
Leon Draisaitl, $3.0m (2014-2017-EL)
Ondrej Palat, $6.7m (2014-2018)
Alex Galchenyuk, $5.8m (2016-2020)
Kirill Kaprizov, $1.6m (2016-2019)
Kevin Labanc, $0.2m (2016-2018)
Jeff Skinner, $1.2m (2015-2018)
TJ Oshie, $5.5m (2015-2019)
Defense:
Erik Johnson, $6.3m (2014-2018)
Joel Edmundson, $2.5m (2016-2019)
Brian Dumoulin, $0.7m (2015-2018-EL)
Just out of curiousity. Would players like Labanc who were drafted in the late rounds of previous entry drafts(but not by a team in FNHL) have been eligible to be picked in the one we had in September or is the draft restricted to guys drafted by NHL teams that year?
Kirill is exempt. Same with dumoulin. Maybe even Lablanc.
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Do they need to have the EL designation to be exempt in FNHL? I know those guys should be exempt since they are like 20 years old.
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It's the FNHL contract. Any contract that started in 2015 or later is exempt. Assuming that is the first contract they signed here.
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Thanks for the clarification Jonathon
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:BUF-NHL3: Buffalo Sabres thinking out loud.
If we go 8 skaters and 1 goalie
1. Zdeno Chara, $6.9m (2014-2018)
2. Dennis Seidenberg, $2.0m (2015-2018)
3. Charlie Coyle, $3.4m (2016-2019)
4. Dustin Brown, $7.7m (2014-2018)
5. Jarome Iginla, $1.7m (2016-2019)
6. Andrew Ladd, $7.3m (2015-2019)
7. Matthew Nieto, $0.3m (2015-2017)
8. Jussi Jokinen, $2.1m (2015-2018)
9. Goalie - Ryan Miller, $5.5m (2013-2017) needs extension
Exempt
Marko Dano, $1.0m (2015-2018-EL)
Jordan Martinook, $0.7m (2015-2018-EL)
Christian Dvorak, $0.7m (2016-2019-EL)
Casey DeSmith, $0.3m (2016-2018)
Joel Hanley, $0.6m (2016-2018)
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:BUF-NHL3: Buffalo Sabres thinking out loud.
If we go 8 skaters and 1 goalie
1. Zdeno Chara, $6.9m (2014-2018)
2. Dennis Seidenberg, $2.0m (2015-2018)
3. Charlie Coyle, $3.4m (2016-2019)
4. Dustin Brown, $7.7m (2014-2018)
5. Jarome Iginla, $1.7m (2016-2019)
6. Andrew Ladd, $7.3m (2015-2019)
7. Matthew Nieto, $0.3m (2015-2017)
8. Jussi Jokinen, $2.1m (2015-2018)
9. Goalie - Ryan Miller, $5.5m (2013-2017) needs extension
Exempt
Marko Dano, $1.0m (2015-2018-EL)
Jordan Martinook, $0.7m (2015-2018-EL)
Christian Dvorak, $0.7m (2016-2019-EL)
Casey DeSmith, $0.3m (2016-2018)
Joel Hanley, $0.6m (2016-2018)
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No one is safe! :beer:
Gimme Gimme Gimme!!!
:bacon: :taco: :bacon:
:koolaid: :o :koolaid:
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No one is safe! :beer:
Gimme Gimme Gimme!!!
:bacon: :taco: :bacon:
:koolaid: :o :koolaid:
:iatp: The Expansion Draft is gonna be like Christmas for you Daddy!
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:iatp: The Expansion Draft is gonna be like Christmas for you Daddy!
:iatp: True.
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No one is safe! :beer:
Gimme Gimme Gimme!!!
:bacon: :taco: :bacon:
:koolaid: :o :koolaid:
One thing's for sure.
The expansion draft is forcing teams to make trades. :toast:
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:EDM: List
1. Jonathan Toews, $6.4m (2014-2018)
2. Brayden Schenn, $6.9m (2016-2020)
3. Nick Foligno, $4.5m (2016-2019)
4. Duncan Keith, $5.5m (2010-2018)
5. Bo Horvat, $2.1m (2016-2019)
6. Sam Reinhart, $2.1m (2016-2019-EL-FP-2.7 :EDM:)
7. Dmitry Orlov, $1.5m (2015-2018)
8. Nikita Zadorov, $1.5m (2015-2018)
1. Darcy Kuemper, $6.0m (2014-2018)
Exempt:
Esa Lindell, $0.5m (2016-2019-EL)
Nikita Soshnikov, $0.2m (2016-2018)
Matthew Tkachuk, $2.5m (2016-2018-EL)
Jack Eichel, $2.3m (2015-2018-EL-FP-3.0 :EDM:)
Brett Ritchie, $0.8m (2015-2018-EL)
Chase De Leo, $0.3m (2016-2019-EL)
Barclay Goodrow, $0.2m (2016-2018)
Ethan Bear, $0.2m (2016-2018)
Trevor Carrick, $0.2m (2016-2018)
Joe Hicketts, $0.2m (2016-2018)
Philippe Myers, $0.2m (2016-2018)
Alex Lyon, $0.9m (2016-2018)
Sergey Tolchinsky, $2.1m (2015-2018) Did my HW. https://goo.gl/wTKyHB (https://goo.gl/wTKyHB)
All 28 prospects in the Minors :taco: :bacon: :taco: :bacon: :toast: :toast: :judge:
Players Available for Vegas to Draft:
Jay McClement, $0.2m (2016-2018)
Henrik Zetterberg, $6.1m (2010-2018) Will be traded or Bought out by end of year
Matt Moulson, $1.3m (2016-2018) Will be traded
Dale Weise, $1.2m (2015-2017) Will not be extended
Jared Spurgeon, $3.0m (2016-2019) Will be traded
Anton Forsberg, $3.5m (2016-2019)
Igor Bobkov, $0.8m (2016-2018)
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:EDM: List
1. Jonathan Toews, $6.4m (2014-2018)
2. Brayden Schenn, $6.9m (2016-2020)
3. Nick Foligno, $4.5m (2016-2019)
4. Duncan Keith, $5.5m (2010-2018)
5. Bo Horvat, $2.1m (2016-2019)
6. Sam Reinhart, $2.1m (2016-2019-EL-FP-2.7 :EDM:)
7. Dmitry Orlov, $1.5m (2015-2018)
8. Nikita Zadorov, $1.5m (2015-2018)
1. Darcy Kuemper, $6.0m (2014-2018)
Exempt:
Esa Lindell, $0.5m (2016-2019-EL)
Nikita Soshnikov, $0.2m (2016-2018)
Matthew Tkachuk, $2.5m (2016-2018-EL)
Jack Eichel, $2.3m (2015-2018-EL-FP-3.0 :EDM:)
Brett Ritchie, $0.8m (2015-2018-EL)
Chase De Leo, $0.3m (2016-2019-EL)
Barclay Goodrow, $0.2m (2016-2018)
Ethan Bear, $0.2m (2016-2018)
Trevor Carrick, $0.2m (2016-2018)
Joe Hicketts, $0.2m (2016-2018)
Philippe Myers, $0.2m (2016-2018)
Alex Lyon, $0.9m (2016-2018)
Sergey Tolchinsky, $2.1m (2015-2018) Did my HW. https://goo.gl/wTKyHB (https://goo.gl/wTKyHB)
All 28 prospects in the Minors :taco: :bacon: :taco: :bacon: :toast: :toast: :judge:
Players Available for Vegas to Draft:
Jay McClement, $0.2m (2016-2018)
Henrik Zetterberg, $6.1m (2010-2018) Will be traded or Bought out by end of year
Matt Moulson, $1.3m (2016-2018) Will be traded
Dale Weise, $1.2m (2015-2017) Will not be extended
Jared Spurgeon, $3.0m (2016-2019) Will be traded
Anton Forsberg, $3.5m (2016-2019)
Igor Bobkov, $0.8m (2016-2018)
:soapbox: (damyou) :soapbox:
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:soapbox: (damyou) :soapbox:
haha But I probably have the youngest team in the league. A lot of teams will have tough decisions to make (looking at all you teams with 2 goalies).
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haha But I probably have the youngest team in the league. A lot of teams will have tough decisions to make (looking at all you teams with 2 goalies).
Idk...The Bolts are pretty young.
Avg age 25.3 (among 30 NHLers)
Average age includes a 30 year old Bishop and 33 year old Niemi as our netminders. Minus those 2 dinosaurs we are even younger. Not too bad.
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Capitals:
7f:
Nicklas Backstrom, $6.0m (2014-2018)
Mikael Granlund, $2.9m (2016-2019)
Aleksander Barkov, $4.3m (2016-2020-FP-5.7:WAS-NHL3:)
Paul Byron, $0.9m (2016-2018)
Alex Ovechkin, $7.2m (2013-2018-FP-9.5:WAS-NHL3:)
Tyler Toffoli, $6.5m (2016-2020)
Valeri Nichushkin, $2.0m (2015-2018)
3d:
Nathan Beaulieu, $2.5m (2016-2019)
Oliver Ekman-Larsson, $7.0m (2016-2020)
Ryan Suter, $5.7m (2014-2018)
1g:
Kari Lehtonen, $9.7m (2015-2020)
Exempt:
Daniel Pribyl, $0.2m (2016-2018) https://goo.gl/YFcfOq (https://goo.gl/YFcfOq)
Derek Ryan, $0.2m (2016-2018) https://goo.gl/1pcwM (https://goo.gl/1pcwM)l
Dryden Hunt, $0.2m (2016-2018) https://goo.gl/xay4mU (https://goo.gl/xay4mU)
Brendan Leipsic, $0.2m (2016-2018) https://goo.gl/gfpliQ (https://goo.gl/gfpliQ) https://goo.gl/Wlc0MJ
(https://goo.gl/Wlc0MJ) Charles Hudon, $0.2m (2016-2019-EL) https://goo.gl/RmhMCX (https://goo.gl/RmhMCX)
Linus Hultstrom, $0.2m (2016-2018) https://goo.gl/ufbeHL (https://goo.gl/ufbeHL)
Ziyat Paigin, $0.4m (2016-2018) https://goo.gl/lXj98W (https://goo.gl/lXj98W)
Chris Bigras, $0.6m (2016-2018) https://goo.gl/ybJSQr (https://goo.gl/ybJSQr)
Frank Vatrano, $0.7m (2016-2018) https://goo.gl/XGIDp5 (https://goo.gl/XGIDp5)
20 guys in Minors
Available for Vegas:
Pheonix Copley, $0.7m (2016-2018)
Michael Sgarbossa, $0.2m (2016-2018)
Bryan Bickell, $0.2m (2016-2018)
Nail Yakupov, $1.5m (2016-2018)
Kasperi Kapanen, $0.2m (2016-2018)
Jannik Hansen, $1.9m (2016-2019)
Steve Oleksy, $0.7m (2016-2018)
Brandon Gormley, $1.5m (2015-2018)
Ryan Murray, $1.7m (2016-2019)
Petteri Lindbohm, $0.5m (2015-2017)
Did some HW here. 9 of my 10 protected skaters are all but locks. Fight between Byron, Yak, Kap and Hansen for that last spot. A trade could change things, though.
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:soapbox: (damyou) :soapbox:
Now that I think about it, I will probably use the 7f/3d setup. I forgot I even had 3 D worth protecting. Pretty much whole team will be protected.
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Now that I think about it, I will probably use the 7f/3d setup. I forgot I even had 3 D worth protecting. Pretty much whole team will be protected.
No worries, I can only draft one guy, so I only need one.
One man's trash is another man's treasure. Besides I've got no issues with protecting your guys within the rules.
I would only have an issue with guys "cheating" the process. I didn't pay $100 (the highest fee in FNHL history) to be cheated out of the expansion process.
Guys can panic and make trades, and worry and be up all night if they choose. Guys can have almost an entire roster protected. None of that fazes :LV: ...it's the same process faced in real life.
The idea of anyone colluding to cheat the legal process of expansion...now that would get to me. Short of that, do what you do. :iatp:
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:rofl:
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:rofl:
Exactly
:rofl:
FNHL GMs are the best I know of anywhere for hockey. I expect you geniuses to make them :soapbox: (damyou) :soapbox: roster moves.
I wouldn't have a whole lot eligible in Tampa neither. :rofl:
:beer: :beer: :beer: :beer:
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We'll throw your Vegas Golden Knoghts a bone :toast: You might not like the bone but we'll throw you one regardless. :Koolaid:
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I think franchise values will continue to climb. This place is well run and excuse free.
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We'll throw your Vegas Golden Knoghts a bone :toast: You might not like the bone but we'll throw you one regardless. :Koolaid:
:rofl: :soapbox: :rofl:
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haha But I probably have the youngest team in the league. A lot of teams will have tough decisions to make (looking at all you teams with 2 goalies).
hmmmm.....i might challenge you on that one with my Leafs. All 4 goalies i have are exempt. I have a decision or two with the yotes, nothing difficult.
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If i had to guess Avs mightve exposed the most young talent having promoted a bunch of prospects well in advance to get an insanely cheap if not criminal extension value.
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If the expansion draft were to take place today I doubt Calgary would have much to offer Vegas.
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Calgary Flames have a straight-forward task here.
1. Mark Giordano, $5.0m (2016-2020-FP-6.6 :CLG:)
2. Anze Kopitar, $4.3m (2015-2018)
3. Milan Lucic, $5.9m (2013-2017)
4. Chris Kreider, $2.7m (2014-2017)
5. Mikeal Backlund, $2.9m (2015-2018)
6. Elias Lindholm, $2.8m (2016-2019)
7. Tyler Ennis, $3.4m (2015-2018)
8. Joe Morrow, $1.5m (2015-2018)
Goalie. Brian Elliott, $6.3m (2015-2019)
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1 - Bryan Little, $5.7m (2015-2019)
2 - Micheal Ferland, $1.5m (2015-2018)
3- Jesper Fast, $0.4m (2015-2017)
4 - Olli Maatta, $3.2m (2015-2018)
5 - Dustin Byfuglien, $7.1m (2016-2020)
6- Adam Lowry, $2.4m (2015-2018)
7 - Radek Faksa, $0.3m (2016-2018)
8- Devan Dubnyk, $8.9m (2015-2020)
as it stands now... Phil Kessel will probably work his way in there. Probably depend on extensions etc.
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I think that was the best trade the Canadiens couldve made dealing Helly! :iatp:
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Interesting to see teams making moves to prepare for the Expansion Draft. Its clear owners want to setup their roster for some big opportunities in late Spring early Summer prior to the August draft.
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My Calgary Flames are just worried about icing a competitive team to fight for a playoff spot. We have 2 1/2 months by my estimation and we can do it.
Nevermind the strategic maneuvering tactics to protect players from the expansion draft.
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Canucks protection list at the moment looking like
Forward's: Tyler Johnson, $6.4m (2016-2020), Derick Brassard, $5.5m (2014-2018),
Travis Zajac, $3.1m (2014-2017), Loui Eriksson, $4.8m (2016-2020), Tomas Tatar, $5.7m (2016-2020), Michael Raffl, $3.0m (2015-2018) and Sven Baertschi, $0.5m (2016-2018)
Defence: Tobias Enstrom, $1.5m (2016-2019), Brandon Davidson, $1.0m (2016-2018) and
Eric Gelinas, $4.0m (2015-2018)
Goalie: Jacob Markstrom, $4.1m (2015-2018)
Plus that of 7 rookie skaters, with the hope of the Canucks in the future placed on Auston Matthews shoulders.
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Canucks protection list at the moment looking like
Forward's: Tyler Johnson, $6.4m (2016-2020), Derick Brassard, $5.5m (2014-2018),
Travis Zajac, $3.1m (2014-2017), Loui Eriksson, $4.8m (2016-2020), Tomas Tatar, $5.7m (2016-2020), Michael Raffl, $3.0m (2015-2018) and Sven Baertschi, $0.5m (2016-2018)
Defence: Tobias Enstrom, $1.5m (2016-2019), Brandon Davidson, $1.0m (2016-2018) and
Eric Gelinas, $4.0m (2015-2018)
Goalie: Jacob Markstrom, $4.1m (2015-2018)
Plus that of 7 rookie skaters, with the hope of the Canucks in the future placed on Auston Matthews shoulders.
Good list. :toast:
Things will change a little between now and the Expansion Draft.
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PPG or PR...
Is Vegas allowed to draft RFAs from other clubs?
We are working off the assumption that we can since we can't control resign tendencies of other clubs. This has become increasingly curious after all the trades this season.
Because we have to sign a certain number of players and some players are automatically ineligible (the Tampa roster is also not eligible) when combined with teams being able to protect whoever they want, I need to be sure RFAs (like Lundquist) are in play.
Let us all know and thank you. :toast:
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It's all in the rules, if a player is left off of the protected player list he then can be taken in the expansion draft. If his contract is up he then needs to be signed to a contract. No differently than you would sign a player on your Tampa Bay team.
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It's all in the rules, if a player is left off of the protected player list he then can be taken in the expansion draft. If his contract is up he then needs to be signed to a contract. No differently than you would sign a player on your Tampa Bay team.
True
Thank you for re-pointing that out :rofl:
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True
Thank you for re-pointing that out :rofl:
hey no problem, I've been looking at the teams. Also some of the lists that have been put up, you have some home work to do my friend. I would suggest (if there isn't already) a deadline to submit protected lists.
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:PHI-NHL: Flyers planning ahead. Looking at who's protected and exempt. Things might change by the time we reach the expansion draft.
Protected: 7 forwards, 3 defensemen & 1 goaltender
Forwards
1. Nick Bjugstad, $2.8m (2014-2017)
2. James Neal, $6.7m (2014-2018)
3. Chris Stewart, $1.6m (2015-2018)
4. Evander Kane, $5.9m (2016-2020)
5. Pat Maroon, $1.2m (2016-2018)
6. Scott Hartnell, $3.4m (2016-2019)
7. Claude Giroux, $6.0m (2014-2018-FP-7.9 :PHI-NHL:)
Defense
1. Brent Burns, $7.1m (2015-2019)
2. Matt Niskanen, $5.5m (2014-2018)
3. Jamie Oleksiak, $0.8m (2015-2017)
Goalie
1. Calvin Pickard, $4.9m (2016-2019)
Exempt (2yr experience or less, 1st FNHL contract signed in 2015 or later)
Ivan Provorov, $2.5m (2016-2019-EL)
Jake McCabe, $0.8m (2015-2018-EL)
Nick Jensen, $0.4m (2016-2018) 1st signed in 2015
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PPG or PR...
Is Vegas allowed to draft RFAs from other clubs?
We are working off the assumption that we can since we can't control resign tendencies of other clubs. This has become increasingly curious after all the trades this season.
Because we have to sign a certain number of players and some players are automatically ineligible (the Tampa roster is also not eligible) when combined with teams being able to protect whoever they want, I need to be sure RFAs (like Lundquist) are in play.
Let us all know and thank you. :toast:
We don't have RFA's in FNHL.
All pending free agents players with expiring contracts (contract ending in 2017 and not resigned) cannot be picked in the Expansion Draft.
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hey no problem, I've been looking at the teams. Also some of the lists that have been put up, you have some home work to do my friend. I would suggest (if there isn't already) a deadline to submit protected lists.
Ive done a lot of the footwork but trades change the landscape. Its still too far away to have a true gauge no matter what I did now.
Just going to sit back and let the season play out and put a final plan together at that time. After the reg season, we will see what needs to be seen.
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Ive done a lot of the footwork but trades change the landscape. Its still too far away to have a true gauge no matter what I did now.
Just going to sit back and let the season play out and put a final plan together at that time. After the reg season, we will see what needs to be seen.
true true plus 3 more weeks of trades i think (havent checked). I'm just trying to enjoy the seson and not look too far ahead.
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There is still a full month of trading ahead. Time to make some calls.
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Definitely. Expansion Draft will happen 1 wk before the 2017 August FNHL Contract Rollover period. So about 2wks before FNHL Free Agency starts, the FNHL Expansion Draft will take place publicly in an expansion draft thread.
So everyone's got liek 2.5 months to get their rosters ready for expansion draft exposure.
Update to this, there will be 2wks after the expansion draft to allow Vegas to move/trade players with the other teams to give them a chance to get ready for the 2017 Free agency period.
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Anaheim Ducks :ANA:
8 skaters (forwards/defensemen) & 1 goaltender
8 Skaters
Cody Eakin, $2.4m (2015-2018)
Rickard Rakell, $4.1m (2016-2019)
Sean Monahan, $4.9m (2016-2019)
Ryan Getzlaf, $4.6m (2016-2020-FP-6.1)
Kris Versteeg, $1.3m (2015-2017)
Wayne Simmonds, $6.1m (2014-2018)
Travis Hamonic, $3.0m (2014-2017)
Sami Vatanen, $4.4m (2015-2018)
1 Goalie
Craig Anderson, $9.1m (2016-2021)
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Devils Protected List:
James Van Riemsdyk
Mark Stone
Ryan Nugent- Hopkins
Michael Haley
Radko Gudas
Jeff Petry
Nickolay Kulemin
Antoine Rousel
Semyon Varlamov
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Vancouver Canucks :VAN: Protect List (7-3-1)
Filip Forsberg, $7.9m (2017-2021)
Tyler Johnson, $6.4m (2016-2020)
Derick Brassard, $5.5m (2014-2018)
Samuel Bennett, $2.6m (2017-2020)
Tomas Tatar, $5.7m (2016-2020)
Loui Eriksson, $4.8m (2016-2020)
Travis Zajac, $2.5m (2017-2019)
Tobias Enstrom, $1.5m (2016-2019)
Andrew MacDonald, $0.2m (2016-2018)
Brandon Davidson, $1.0m (2016-2018)
Jacob Markstrom, $4.1m (2015-2018)
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sharks protected list
patrick burgland
paul byron
david backes
lars eller
tomas hertl
ryan strome
jaroslav halak
oliver lawson
tyson barrie
william karlson
ty rattie
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wild protection list
paul stansy
mikkel boedker
tobias reider
conor sheary
cam foley
victor hedman
kyle turris
jason chimera
corey perry
mike condon
nick cousins