Author Topic: PROPOSED: MiLR Expanding to 20 Spots in 2013-14  (Read 2084 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline PigsRule

  • League Moderator
  • Legend
  • *****
  • Join Date: Jul 2011
  • Posts: 7161
  • Bonus inPoints: 0
    • :Blank:
    • :Blank:
    • :Blank:
    • :Blank:
    • :blank:
    • View Profile
Re: PROPOSED: MiLR Expanding to 30 Spots in 2013-14
« Reply #10 on: February 05, 2013, 03:36:43 PM »
:veto:

I think this could have a very negative effect on the league.

it might... but after:
looking over the setup
4 draft picks annually,
only 13 current MiLR spots/team
usually only the top 5 players from the first 10 picks at the NHL entry make the NHL quickly
most other draftees linger for 3-5yrs before getting called up
i think there's room to expand Minor league rosters (MiLR)


Quote
Look at which teams are currently signing up the young talent or future NHLers.  Its the bottom dwellers like myself because it is currently one of the only avenues left to rebuild a team.

that's the name of the game in a uber deep 30-team league isn't it...
you're the last guy in, so you get the scraps.
been there, done that when i joined July 2011.

guess what, then i packed off the prospects + vets and got more assets.
kept trading til i got a serviceable team.
then i finished behind drew's :MIN-NHL: for the 2011-12 season... my 1st in the league.


Quote
I actually think you should move in the opposite direction which is limit MiLR to 10 ,  reduce draft picks to 3 rounds and start allowing teams to sign and place players to their MiLR instead of forcing them to store them on their pro roster.
...

we could but the problem with that is... all the prospects that are very close to the NHL will face being cut right after the next draft for most teams.

why?
because your 4 new draft picks might also be amazing.
so now you have to cut newly drafted players.

oh oh.
doesn't that de-value your draft picks???

oh oh, then maybe we should cut the # of draft rounds from 4 to 1 or 2???

that's what we're facing... and it leads to shallow league play that's not as challenging not as advanced as a 30-team league should be.

bottomline: increasing MiLR spots will lead to more strategic, competitive league play where resources are valuable, not devalued.

funny
0
like
0
dislike
0
No reactions
No reactions
No reactions
Florida Panthers ... link to team page

2023-24 FRANCHISE NHL PAYOUT TO CHAMPION ... :money: $530.00USD :money:
ONLY THE BEST OWNERS WANTED


Offline PigsRule

  • League Moderator
  • Legend
  • *****
  • Join Date: Jul 2011
  • Posts: 7161
  • Bonus inPoints: 0
    • :Blank:
    • :Blank:
    • :Blank:
    • :Blank:
    • :blank:
    • View Profile
Re: PROPOSED: MiLR Expanding to 30 Spots in 2013-14
« Reply #11 on: February 05, 2013, 03:38:39 PM »
...BUT Snugerud... your comments are noted!

to your pt, we do need to ensure teams don't mortgage the farm literally to make a push for the post-season.

and that's something any league commissioner(s) + trade committee members need to be mindful of while monitoring trades and owner movement.
funny
0
like
0
dislike
0
No reactions
No reactions
No reactions
Florida Panthers ... link to team page

2023-24 FRANCHISE NHL PAYOUT TO CHAMPION ... :money: $530.00USD :money:
ONLY THE BEST OWNERS WANTED


Offline snugerud

  • MVP
  • ****
  • Join Date: Jul 2011
  • Posts: 4390
  • Bonus inPoints: 0
  • I am the ghost of fantasy hockey past
    • :NE:
    • :TOR-NBA:
    • :PIT-NHL:
    • :Blank:
    • View Profile
Re: PROPOSED: MiLR Expanding to 30 Spots in 2013-14
« Reply #12 on: February 05, 2013, 04:31:57 PM »
Point taken, but I will add that I am sure your rebuild would have been slowed had you not been able to sign the likes of Craig Smith, Carl Haglien, orlov.  There is probably others I just dont have the time to look. 

Dont pretend like you got there all with your amazing trade raping skills.
funny
0
like
0
dislike
0
No reactions
No reactions
No reactions
Bro-Lo El Cunado

Offline PigsRule

  • League Moderator
  • Legend
  • *****
  • Join Date: Jul 2011
  • Posts: 7161
  • Bonus inPoints: 0
    • :Blank:
    • :Blank:
    • :Blank:
    • :Blank:
    • :blank:
    • View Profile
Re: PROPOSED: MiLR Expanding to 30 Spots in 2013-14
« Reply #13 on: February 05, 2013, 04:54:49 PM »
lol

actually, it was easier than that... just stock up on filler players that get you some pts nightly and you can overtake star studded teams that aren't filled.

anyway, remember how you said you can't win... uh, did i notice your :NYI: winning its WEEK 2 matchup? ;)
funny
0
like
0
dislike
0
No reactions
No reactions
No reactions
Florida Panthers ... link to team page

2023-24 FRANCHISE NHL PAYOUT TO CHAMPION ... :money: $530.00USD :money:
ONLY THE BEST OWNERS WANTED


Offline snugerud

  • MVP
  • ****
  • Join Date: Jul 2011
  • Posts: 4390
  • Bonus inPoints: 0
  • I am the ghost of fantasy hockey past
    • :NE:
    • :TOR-NBA:
    • :PIT-NHL:
    • :Blank:
    • View Profile
Re: PROPOSED: MiLR Expanding to 30 Spots in 2013-14
« Reply #14 on: February 06, 2013, 11:40:32 AM »
I didnt say I cant win,  I didnt want to win but dont want to ethically so, I am still putting the best team together that I can to compete but frankly hope each week that I lose horribly and get a good pick for whomever is taking over next year. 

I still disagree with the MILR increase.  Your better bet would be to no longer allow free agent signing of players that would still be considered Minors eligible so basically anyone under 40 games played can't be signed via FA. 

Then open your drafts to all players under 40 games that are still FA's so not only current draft but all previous drafts. 

That way teams can draft players that are closer to making the NHL instead of having to invest 3-4 years in advance.

You have to admit that after 2nd round guys are usually just drafting a name because the NHL Scouts did. where is the strategy or the knowledge with that. Large MiLR's are just that a hoarding place where GM's hardly know anything more than the guys name for about 75% of them. 

You also pointed out that gms may have to drop guys and to me that is where the skill comes in, making the tough choices of who has the talent to actually make it. It doesn't devalue picks at all for savvy GMs that research their minors. 

it also forces a choice of build for 2-3 yrs from now with a guy that maybe higher skill or higher potential or do you draft that guy that is a step away from a regular gig but probably a 3rd 4th liner. 
funny
0
like
0
dislike
0
No reactions
No reactions
No reactions
Bro-Lo El Cunado

Offline dickiedunn

  • All-Star
  • ***
  • Join Date: Nov 2011
  • Posts: 1638
  • Bonus inPoints: 0
    • :Blank:
    • :Blank:
    • :Blank:
    • :Blank:
    • View Profile
Re: PROPOSED: MiLR Expanding to 30 Spots in 2013-14
« Reply #15 on: February 08, 2013, 10:49:51 PM »
I'm not a fan of drafting draftees from prior years.  It's too easy to cherry pick prospects that have already matured through two levels of the minors.

One of the reasons I find Franchise NHL challenging is because you not only have to assemble a competitive ML team but also develop a strong pipeline of prospects to eventually feed your parent club. That's the cool factor for me in this league.
funny
0
like
0
dislike
0
No reactions
No reactions
No reactions

Offline PigsRule

  • League Moderator
  • Legend
  • *****
  • Join Date: Jul 2011
  • Posts: 7161
  • Bonus inPoints: 0
    • :Blank:
    • :Blank:
    • :Blank:
    • :Blank:
    • :blank:
    • View Profile
Re: PROPOSED: MiLR Expanding to 30 Spots in 2013-14
« Reply #16 on: February 21, 2013, 11:34:35 AM »
we'll move fwd with an increase to 20 MiLR spots starting in 2013-14.

enough leagues on profsl already offer drafts with players eligible from prior yrs so there's no need to mimic that here.

rules will be updated.
plan accordingly.
funny
0
like
0
dislike
0
No reactions
No reactions
No reactions
Florida Panthers ... link to team page

2023-24 FRANCHISE NHL PAYOUT TO CHAMPION ... :money: $530.00USD :money:
ONLY THE BEST OWNERS WANTED


 


* FNHL Chat

Sorry, this shoutbox does not exist.

Forum Search


Quick Profile

 
 
Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.
Did you miss your activation email?

* Chat Room

Refresh History
  • Jwalkerjr88: Per my own eval at least
    April 26, 2024, 06:48:25 PM
  • Daddy: There are still +220 picks to be made. So. Yeah.
    April 26, 2024, 07:35:23 PM
  • Daddy: If you got ANY extra loot laying around. Pick #33 will definitely be a WR. Probably got to wager $5 to win $1 by now but the line was -400 last i looked.
    April 26, 2024, 07:36:50 PM
  • Daddy: #33 + WR = $$$
    April 26, 2024, 07:37:36 PM
  • Daddy: My guess Keon Coleman. I put it out there. Now im going to drink my crown and smoke a cigar. Rounds 2 & 3 begins in 10 minutes.
    April 26, 2024, 07:49:11 PM
  • Daddy: Damn im good
    April 26, 2024, 08:18:55 PM
  • Daddy: Only 12 offensive players were drafted in Round 2. All of them 1st rd NFL LIVE picks.
    April 26, 2024, 10:31:11 PM
  • Daddy: 63% of NFL Roster makeup  Are players drafted in rounds 4-7 or UDFA
    April 27, 2024, 01:05:08 PM
  • Alpha5: CBS's comp for Bo Nix is Josh Dobbs lol
    April 27, 2024, 03:01:57 PM
  • IndianaBuc: Maybe there’s hope for Zack after all.
    April 27, 2024, 03:13:10 PM
  • Alpha5: Trotter to the Eagles. That's pretty good @jwalker
    April 27, 2024, 03:58:11 PM
  • Jwalkerjr88: Nix will be their guy for at least a few years. He was picked 1.12. Zach wilson is fighting for his nfl life
    April 27, 2024, 04:35:18 PM
  • Jwalkerjr88: @Alpha Trotter to eagles is a great story. Not sure it produces great results. We will see
    April 27, 2024, 04:35:42 PM
  • Jwalkerjr88: Zach wilson vs Jarrett Stidham camp battle for QB2. The suspense!
    April 27, 2024, 04:45:40 PM
  • Alpha5: Keon Colemans comp is Ja'Marr chase on CBS which is weird to me
    April 27, 2024, 05:19:09 PM
  • Jwalkerjr88: Nothing like having some depth guys on your NFL Live roster you believe in and watching his team draft a player at his position. Sometimes it happens twice. Stay strong NFL Live GMs lol
    April 27, 2024, 05:53:25 PM
  • Alpha5: Trey Benson picked crushed my Demarcado/Michael Carter hopes
    April 27, 2024, 06:12:44 PM
  • Alpha5: *pick
    April 27, 2024, 06:12:58 PM
  • Daddy: Dont think of it that way. So many guys get hurt. The NFL moves so fast. Think of your players as commodity even if they are backups or rookies that arent playing much.
    April 27, 2024, 06:16:20 PM
  • Daddy: Any player that plays at all has LIVE value. It's the GMs here that determine what that value means to them or is worth in a trade.
    April 27, 2024, 06:17:45 PM
  • Daddy: If a guy is on your team and he is also on an NFL roster. He has LIVE value.
    April 27, 2024, 06:19:21 PM
  • Daddy: How much do you love sports? How much do you love "your sport". Do you feel you could GM a franchise?
    April 27, 2024, 10:30:28 PM
  • Daddy: LIVE is a free league, better than any money league. That tests your ability to build a franchise. In a simulation setting more realistic than anything you are going to find.
    April 27, 2024, 10:31:51 PM
  • Daddy: Dont believe me? See for yourself.
    April 27, 2024, 10:32:08 PM
  • Daddy: Dont like me? So what
    April 27, 2024, 10:32:18 PM
  • Daddy: If you like sports and like dynasty. And you arent in LIVE... You aint hurting me none. You just wont know how good you really are. Pretending to be the best, isnt being the best.
    April 27, 2024, 10:33:55 PM
  • Daddy: The "best GMs" seek the best competition. Period.
    April 27, 2024, 10:38:07 PM
  • PsychoticPondGoons: FNHL Carolina Hurricanes welcome new owners MooseMan & GoForth :CAR-NHL: [link] :CAR-NHL:
    Yesterday at 01:44:14 PM
  • Mt_Crushmore: Here to talk
    Yesterday at 10:25:28 PM
  • dbreer23: PM Mt_Crushmore
    Today at 12:58:42 AM
  • Mt_Crushmore: Pm DBreer23
    Today at 01:30:41 PM
  • Daddy: NCAA LIVE updates are happening on fantrax and profsl.
    Today at 02:49:06 PM
  • Daddy: Check your profiles on each site and pms to be sure you are caught up but more updates are coming its a massive league and its a busy time.
    Today at 02:50:11 PM
  • Daddy: NFL/NCAA LIVE football commith.
    Today at 02:51:48 PM
  • Daddy: Recruiting begins June 1
    Today at 02:52:19 PM
  • Daddy: Draft is August 1
    Today at 02:52:40 PM
  • Daddy: MLB LIVE Draft [link] one week after MLB Draft is set and locked in.
    Today at 02:55:01 PM
  • Daddy: Huge NFL LIVE trade up in the draft.
    Today at 03:35:50 PM
  • Daddy: Congratulations to both teams
    Today at 03:36:00 PM
  • Daddy: @Sky welcome back to profsl. @indiansnation @Brent are two GMs that i know remember you on site. There are probably many others. Big time return. :toast:
    Today at 06:05:28 PM
  • Sky: :) Thanks Daddy! You pulled me back in lol
    Today at 06:58:51 PM
  • STLBlues91: Ill be around for any talks
    Today at 08:16:52 PM
  • Mt_Crushmore: Vegeta100 PM'D you.
    Today at 09:51:48 PM
  • Daddy: There are pms flying all over the place and trades happening in multiple sports.
    Today at 11:16:34 PM
  • Daddy: Dont let the clean boards fool you. :) Run those teams and dominate somebody.
    Today at 11:17:59 PM
  • Daddy: There goes another trade. Congratulations to the trading teams.
    Today at 11:20:39 PM
  • Daddy: Sky you old sly devil you. You been back on site 15 minutes :rofl:
    Today at 11:21:27 PM
  • Sky: :) why wait. got players I like
    Today at 11:22:17 PM
  • Brent: Sky, Welcome back.  PM sent.
    Today at 11:29:45 PM
  • Daddy: I knew @Brent would approve.
    Today at 11:30:47 PM