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Title: Reds and Indians announce a trade.
Post by: Fitzy1962 on April 25, 2013, 06:07:35 PM
Reds trade:

Drew Stubbs CF/RF/OF  $527k (2013) ARB (2015)
Chris Archer  SP           $480k (2013) ARB (2016)
3rd-rd pick in the 2014 amateur-draft

Indians trade:

Giancarlo Stanton  RF/OF $ 480k (2013) ARB (2016)
Title: Re: Reds and Indians announce a trade.
Post by: Fitzy1962 on April 25, 2013, 06:14:54 PM
Reds do this trade to grab a stud, young player in Stanton. He's having an aweful year with only 18 pts so far, but hoping he get's traded in time to help me this year. Indians get the CF they need, along with my top-prospect (46th over-all in Top 100 MLB specs) who should help this year plus a 3rd-pick in the amateur draft.

Reds trade:

Drew Stubbs CF/RF/OF  $527k (2013) ARB (2015)
Chris Archer  SP           $480k (2013) ARB (2016)
3rd-rd pick in the 2014 amateur-draft

Indians trade:

Giancarlo Stanton  RF/OF $ 480k (2013) ARB (2016)
Title: Re: Reds and Indians announce a trade.
Post by: firemanx on April 25, 2013, 09:13:04 PM
indians have agreed ro these terms we hate parting ways with giancarlo , but helps feel our vacant CF Spot & we acuire a potential ace in archer & reacuire a 3rd round selection
Title: Re: Reds and Indians announce a trade.
Post by: yahoolando on April 26, 2013, 12:13:32 PM
I personally don't think its enough to get one of the best young sluggers in the game with 3 years remaining in his ARB years.

Would like to see another top 100 spec at least in this deal.  I am interested to see others views.

 :veto:
Title: Re: Reds and Indians announce a trade.
Post by: seanrmgallagher on April 27, 2013, 12:49:54 PM
Personal issues aside, I agree with yahoolando. Stanton should have more value than any other player in this league given his power, age, and contract. Trading him for a borderline starting CF, a borderline top 50 spec, and a draft pick just isn't nearly enough in my eyes.
Title: Re: Reds and Indians announce a trade.
Post by: Lindner on April 28, 2013, 03:12:06 AM
 :veto:

 :doh:
Title: Re: Reds and Indians announce a trade.
Post by: kenny on April 28, 2013, 03:59:28 PM
That's 3 veto's already, so trade does not pass.
Title: Re: Reds and Indians announce a trade.
Post by: Fitzy1962 on April 28, 2013, 04:08:00 PM
Stanton is hittng about .120 this year. He has absolutely  no help on that team and isn't going to have anywhere near the value he he's had the last few years.  i actually offered him what i thought was a better package,  but his is what he asked for.

The other thing is, and I've stated this before when I have voted on trades. If the two people involved are happy with the trade, for the most part, they should be approved by the league.

And since when is 3 people a majority? This trade was "viewed" almost 70 times before  anyone commented on it at all. Shouldn't the "trade  commitee" represent the majority of the league?
Title: Re: Reds and Indians announce a trade.
Post by: snbts on April 28, 2013, 07:01:47 PM
As per the constitution you can appeal the veto but it requires 70% of the league GM's to approve of it. 

It is also not based on how many times something is viewed as we dont have 70 teams.  If comes down to the trade committee which does need updated.

 :toth:
Title: Re: Reds and Indians announce a trade.
Post by: Fitzy1962 on May 14, 2013, 10:33:43 PM
Feels like cheating to me. I accepted a trade offer from the Indians and you people vetoed it because you said there wasn't enough "value" in return.

Now I see that you all skated the rules and used waivers to prevent anyone from voting on your trade!!!!

Feels like cheating to me. Is that how you all do things in this league? Can't vote on a BS "trade" because it was snuck through waivers?

This is a crock.
Title: Re: Reds and Indians announce a trade.
Post by: snbts on May 14, 2013, 11:04:21 PM
No it was not a waivers trade.  It would have gone the same way if your trade was approved.  Since the players are going from the AL to the NL and vice versa they would go on waivers. The players will show for the opposite league as being free agents. We have seperate leagues in fantrax so we can remain a free league to play.

I did not vote for either trade but I do think that Castro is more valuable at SS than what your previous trade involved but that is totally a difference in opinion.  You did have the option of reworking your trade but the Indians took another offer unfortunately.