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I will start accepting GM of the year votes publicly in this thread. There are some good candidates out there such as the GMs of the Astros, Cardinals, White Sox, Athletics, Tigers, Blue Jays, Brewers, Phillies, Dodgers, and Yankees.
The Astros win the tiebreaker over the Cardinals because they beat them in their one and only matchup. We didn't have anything in the rules for tiebreakers to get into the playoffs. We only have tiebreakers for the playoffs (which may never be used considering the low likelihood of such an event). I like our H2H system... the schedule can only be improved if it is customized. I offered a customized schedule prior to the season that was rejected (which is fine), but perhaps this is something that we need to consider again.
Anyways, congrats to Jeff :DET: and Kent :HOU: for wrapping up those last playoff spots. The first week of ALDS/NLDS action is as follows.
:NYY: (18-5) vs. :DET: (14-9)
:OAK: (18-5) vs. :TOR: (17-6)
*Yankees had #1 seed over Athletics because of more points (no H2H matchup)
:MIL: (21-2) vs. :PHI: (17-6)
:LAD: (18-5) vs. :HOU: (13-10)
*Brewers do not play Astros in opening round because they are a division opponent
The Brewers-Phillies is an excellent match that we have been aware of for about a month now. Likewise, the Athletics-Blue Jays tilt is another match that may feature a World Series winner.
Best of luck lady and gentlemen!
Now, regarding the GM movements that we expect to happen in the coming weeks. I am not permitting Jeff to move to the Red Sox or Steph to resign until their teams' seasons are finished. Our draft starts in a couple days which means some future GMs may miss their team's 1st round pick. If a GM position is in limbo, then they can tell me who they want to pick. If a GM is moving then the new GM can surely advise the lame duck GM of whom they want in the draft.
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Congrats to all teams that made the playoffs. Good luck to all.
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Here is my extrapolated W-L record for all of the teams. The wins and losses are not going to be perfect but the order of the teams is perfect. The order of the final eight picks in the draft order are determined by the playoffs. The remaining 22 teams will use this list to determine draft order in 2011. FYI, the Brewers had an amazing season. Honestly, I feel they were a 110 win team. They were the only team to score more than 30,000 points this season, and they pushed that feat by an extra 5,000 points. The Orioles and Padres were pretty bad... and they took some extra losses to make up for the quality of teams with winning records this year. I made sure all of the wins and losses averaged out to 81-81. Enjoy...
2010 Extrapolated Records
:MIL: 110-52
:NYY: 97-65
:LAD: 96-66
:OAK: 95-67
:TOR: 95-67
:PHI: 93-69
:DET: 90-72
:BOS: 90-72
:LAA: 89-73
:HOU: 88-74
:STL: 87-75
:CLE: 86-76
:CHW: 85-77
:ARZ: 84-78
:ATL: 83-79
:CIN: 82-80
:CHC: 80-82
:TEX: 79-83
:TB: 78-84
:SF: 77-85
:COL: 76-86
:PIT: 75-87
:WAS: 74-88
:MIN: 73-89
:NYM: 71-91
:FL: 68-94
:KC: 64-98
:SEA: 61-101
:SD: 54-108
:BAL: 50-112
Tiebreakers...
14 win teams - Red Sox beat the Angels
13 win teams - Cardinals beat the Indians
12 win teams - Braves beat the Reds, White Sox beat the Reds, Diamondbacks beat the Braves, White Sox and Diamondbacks did not play each other, so the next tiebreaker is points scored in which the White Sox easily beat out the Diamondbacks.
10 win teams - Rangers beat the Rockies, Cubs beat the Rangers, Rangers beat the Rays, Cubs beat the Giants, Rays beat the Giants, Giants beat the Rockies, Cubs beat the Rays, Rays beat the Rockies
9 win teams - Pirates beat the Nationals, Nationals beat the Twins, Twins beat the Pirates, a three-way split, next tiebreaker is points which goes in descending order of Pirates - Nationals - Twins
5 win teams - Royals beat the Mariners
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2011 Draft Order (Last 8 to be determined)
1) :BAL:
2) :SD:
3) :SEA:
4) :KC:
5) :FL:
6) :NYM:
7) :MIN:
8) :WAS:
9) :PIT:
10) :COL:
11) :SF:
12) :TB:
13) :TEX:
14) :CHC:
15) :CIN:
16) :ATL:
17) :ARZ:
18) :CHW:
19) :CLE:
20) :STL:
21) :LAA:
22) :BOS:
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I'll give my vote to Kent for his job with the Astros. It's always fun to see an underdog beat out a favorite for a playoff spot. Way to turn a losing team around.
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My vote for GM of the Year is pending but I have taken it down to three people.
Kent :HOU:, Rob :OAK:, and Daniel :TOR:
The Astros and Blue Jays had a $100m cap whereas Rob had a $70m cap in 2010. All three of these teams were at or slightly below 0.500 in 2009.
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I will make a vote, even tho i did miss half the year, and didnt see the moves that everyone made to turn there team around. The stros (no offense kent) are prolly the worst team in the playoffs. But he is in one of the deepest divisions in the league, so immediately my hat goes out for him. My vote however is the A's (time for a miller). I vote for him because of the payroll being lower, and I have seen and heard of some the moves he made to acquire the team he has. Im just completely baffled how the formger yankee gm gave up robinson cano (even b4 this year, you had to see the ability he had) The A's are 18-5 and when you look at the team they put together, you dont say, wow that team is stacked....(aka brewers). Great job Rob.
So my vote is
The Oakland Athletics and GM Rob Miller
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2010 Moneyball Award
This goes out to the GM of the team whose ranking in the league was furthest away from their cap ranking (in descending order). It has officially been clinched by Robert Miller of the Oakland Athletics. His team will finish no worse than 8th for a minimum difference of 17. The runner-ups were as follows...
Ben Yergey, Milwaukee Brewers :MIL: (no matter how he finishes he will 2nd - difference as high as 15, low as 8)
Omar Molina, Arizona Diamondbacks :ARZ: - team had a decent run in the 2nd half, difference of 8
Roy Cankosyan, Texas Rangers :TEX: - difference of 7
Colby Schaeffer, Pittsburgh Pirates :PIT: - difference of 6
Michael Bailey, Tampa Bay Rays :TB: - difference of 6
Daniel Valensi, Toronto Blue Jays :TOR: - difference of 6
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Most Improved
Jeff Wren clinched this award... the Tigers were 28th in the league in 2009 and his team will finish no worse than 8th. Runner ups were Daniel's Blue Jays who are improving from 18th to the playoffs, Rick's White Sox who went from 25th to 13th, and Kent's Astros who went from 20th to the playoffs.
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My vote goes to Ben with a slight edge over Robert. Both made the trades they needed after acquiring some top prospects. Ben has a great team and it will be interesting to see how much of it he is able to keep together next season.
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My vote is for Toronto... to overcome the beasts of the AL East is an accomplishment for the Rays of yesteryear and the Orioles and Blue Jays of today. That was one remarkable free agency run he had last year.
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I am voting for the Astros. The NL Central was a very tough division this year. Even the Pirates and Cubs posed themselves as threats.
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2010 Moneyball Award
This goes out to the GM of the team whose ranking in the league was furthest away from their cap ranking (in descending order). It has officially been clinched by Robert Miller of the Oakland Athletics. His team will finish no worse than 8th for a minimum difference of 17. The runner-ups were as follows...
Ben Yergey, Milwaukee Brewers :MIL: (no matter how he finishes he will 2nd - difference as high as 15, low as 8)
Omar Molina, Arizona Diamondbacks :ARZ: - team had a decent run in the 2nd half, difference of 8
Roy Cankosyan, Texas Rangers :TEX: - difference of 7
Colby, Pittsburgh Pirates :PIT: - difference of 6
Michael Bailey, Tampa Bay Rays :TB: - difference of 6
Daniel Valensi, Toronto Blue Jays :TOR: - difference of 6
We gladly accept this award and thank you. There was no choice with $70M and trying to compete. Next year it looks like we get a whopping $80M. I hope we can continue this and make it a tradition. As the A's GM, I have to make Billy Beane proud.
I would gladly give the award back to have JJ, Coghlan, and others healthy for the playoffs and Morrow throwing as well.
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My vote is for the A's. Breweres already had a pretty good team but the A's had so little to start with.
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My vote is for the Cards. They should of made it to the playoffs.(playoff tie-breaker rules Need to be changed!)
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All in all I think my Cubs improved. It was a year of dealing with big contracts. I ended up with the grand daddy of them all and a few $7m/year contracts, but I am much better off than where I started. Picking up Hammel at the end of this year, and ahead of OFA, was key as I am going after pitchers this winter.
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I'll go with Kent's Astros for GM of the year. Kent plays in arguably the toughest division in the league, and managed to hold off two very good teams (Reds and Cardinals) for a shot at World Series ring. Rob's A's had a much better record, but faced a weaker division, and he's already won the Moneyball award. I'd like to maintain some diversity with the awards. :koolaid:
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rob is gm of the year hands down
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Phillies, Astros, Yankees, and Blue Jays all lead their series after one day. The Phillies and Yankees scored over 300 points in their first day.
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My vote for GM of the Year is pending but I have taken it down to three people.
Kent :HOU:, Rob :OAK:, and Daniel :TOR:
The Astros and Blue Jays had a $100m cap whereas Rob had a $70m cap in 2010. All three of these teams were at or slightly below 0.500 in 2009.
I should have mentioned that Jeff Wren :DET: should be part of the GM of the Year discussion. Anyways, I have been thoroughly impressed with the job that Daniel did for the Blue Jays. They had a few good young players and a bad Vernon Wells contract. He managed to keep a decent farm, bring in free agents that produced, and shed the Wells contract in exchange for other quality players. He did this with a salary cap of $100m in a division where the Yankees and Red Sox play, not to mention the Rays.
My official vote for 2010 GM of the Year is Daniel Valensi of the Blue Jays.
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Rob :OAK: gets my vote as well... I thought I had a good team this year, and I could never catch up to him and his 2-game lead. He did all of this with half the payroll of the Angels.
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Phillies 706 - Brewers 453
Astros 450 - Dodgers 413
Yankees 565 - Tigers 147
Athletics 477 - Blue Jays 70
Wow, there are some big differentials in the scores outside of the Dodgers-Astros series. There would be some big surprises if the week ended now... the Brewers losing (although the Phillies are a strong opponent), the Astros winning yet again, and the Blue Jays lack of production. As Billy Beane once said, "once you get in the playoffs, it's all f-in luck!".
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I didnt expect anything like this for the first round thats for sure
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Imagine an A's-Astros World Series! :crazy:
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Finally the season is over.
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As a diehard Phillies fan hoping they pull out the NL East, I'm pretty conflicted this week... GO WERTH!!!
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Will my Jays wake up from their slumber in time? GL to all in the playoffs
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The Dodgers have turned things around midway through the week as they have a 240+ point lead. We could have a rematch of the 1981 ALCS (Yanks, A's) and a rematch of the 2008 NLCS (Phillies, Dodgers - Cole Hamels was the NLCS MVP that year).
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The Dodgers have turned things around midway through the week as they have a 240+ point lead. We could have a rematch of the 1981 ALCS (Yanks, A's) and a rematch of the 2008 NLCS (Phillies, Dodgers - Cole Hamels was the NLCS MVP that year).
You wrote the Brewers off too early last year Colby, sure you want to make that mistake again? :toast:
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With 2 days left the Stros and Brewcrew have made some serious combacks, and are threatening to pull off the win.....Should be pretty wild this weekend
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With 2 days left the Stros and Brewcrew have made some serious combacks, and are threatening to pull off the win.....Should be pretty wild this weekend
You are certainly right..
:PHI: 1498 - :MIL: 1439
:LAD: 1233 - :HOU: 935
:NYY: 1089 - :DET: 683
:OAK: 1013 - :TOR: 657
All eyes are on the Phillies-Brewers tilt. The Brewers have Danks starting and the Phillies have Blanton, Kazmir, and Meyers. Several Phillies sluggers looking to continue their hot streak against the Nats right now. An offensive performance could pull one team ahead, but I am going with the numbers and giving it to the Phillies and their trio of starters today.
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The Phillies have had a great week so far - After the Phillies got out to an early lead, it seems everyday the Brewers put a big score on the board, but the Phillies have matched stride for stride.
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Brewers brought back by late game heroics from Werth and Wigginton, and a blast from our own Braun. Still some time left in the MIL/SF game, but the series will likely come down to tonights 8:05PM game between CHW and DET, where the Brewers will start John Danks against his teammate Paul Konerko, going for the Phillies. Should be a good one...
EDIT: PHI - 1636, MIL - 1621, with only the CHW/DET game left (unless Seth Smith comes into the COL game).
EDIT AGAIN: Smith did come in, got a PH walk and the GP for 25 points! Brewers with a 14 point lead at the start of the CHW/DET game.
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Mid 4th, only 5 points separate PHI/MIL...
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After Danks imploded in the 7th, this one became even closer. The Phillies were up 4 going into the bottom of the 8th, Konerko pops out to bring the Brewers to 6 up... maybe no one else is paying attention, but I'm going nuts :beer:
Current Score: Brewers - 1653, Philies - 1647... helluva matchup so far Philly! :toth:
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im paying attention is ben. this is awesome
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im paying attention is ben. this is awesome
Barring a White Sox miracle in the bottom of the 9th, the score should be final. However, I've seen Fantrax have the score jump a few points here and there, presumably for MLB scoring changes, so a 6 point lead is far from safe even if Konerko's day is done (specifically, they may update his defensive stats... who knows, maybe I'm just getting paranoid).
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White Sox bringing the tying run to the plate, and extra innings would likely get Paul another AB...
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Barring a White Sox miracle in the bottom of the 9th, the score should be final. However, I've seen Fantrax have the score jump a few points here and there, presumably for MLB scoring changes, so a 6 point lead is far from safe even if Konerko's day is done (specifically, they may update his defensive stats... who knows, maybe I'm just getting paranoid).
Actually it does not currently include any of Konerko's defensive stats, so he will probably get a few points that aren't counted yet... maybe I need another Konerko AB and out...
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Here comes Konerko... AHHH
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Walk off granny....... i got the feeling
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He's gonna get a free pass... damn.
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I think that'll seal it up... wow...
Congrats Phillies, helluva friggen battle. :toth:
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wow. Ben that is just flat out incredibly sucky. I would be pissed. What a way to lose
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Looks like it would take a drawn out extra innings game with two more outs from Konerko, or a GIDP, but I'm not holding my breath... ouch...
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What a matchup.. the Phillies - Brewers playoff tilt has been anticipated for about a year. It was originally expected to be the NLCS, but for many weeks now it has been known that it would come down to these two teams in the opening round. As expected, it was a hell of a show, a mini-World Series if you will, and the Phillies, who had the match all week, took it back in the closing hours thanks to their trade-deadline acquisition of Paul Konerko.
The rematches of the 2008 NLCS and the 1981 ALCS are here...
:PHI: vs. :LAD:
:NYY: vs. :OAK:
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It was also last year's real-life NLCS. I'm rooting for the Dodgers of course, maybe they'll at least win in fantasy baseball :rofl:
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Congrats to the Dodgers and Mgr Mezzetti for the win over my Stros. The Dodgers put together a very good team and eventhough the Dodgers had a large cap to work with it takes some managing of the cap room to put together and manage that team, for that you get my vote for this years top Mgr and again congrats and good luck...
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:PHI: 219 - :LAD: 202
:OAK: 111 - :NYY: -3
Yankees go in the red and are down 100 points after the first day... doesn't mean too much yet. Consider it the A's taking game one of a seven game series.
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:PHI: 450 - :LAD: 215
:NYY: 144 - :OAK: 77
Yankees take the lead while the A's lose some points. Meanwhile, the consistent Phillies build on their lead.
P.S. - I updated 26 of the 30 MLB franchises' team histories. The four teams still in the hunt will be updated once their season finishes.
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It's shaping up to be a repeat of the real-life WS in 2009.
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:PHI: 777 - :LAD: 606
:NYY: 410 - :OAK: 127
Yankees are starting to run away, and the Dodgers trimmed their deficit.
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i vote for daniel in toronto as GM of the year...taking that wild card away from TB and BOS is quite an accomplishment
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GM of the year, I am voting for Kent. Had just enough to make it to the playoffs and certainly was not expected. He barely beats out Daniel for me. Excluding myself, I have it Kent, Daniel, and Paul = 1,2,3. The Dodgers and Brewers had ridiculous prospects after last year and should have succeeded as they both have.
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Ben's team is loaded but had the misfortune of running into the buzz saw that is the Phillies. Can't vote for the Jays because they lost to the A's. Oakland GM told me that Jose Bautista was having a "career year" and wasn't interested in his services. 32 home runs later I wonder if he feels the same way.
I have to go with Kent Puett as GM of the Year. His team made a believer out of me by eliminating me in the final week of the season.My chances were slim but had I won that series and the Tigers and Indians lost, the AL Central would have gone to the W'Sox.
Good job Kent!
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I vote for Ben, incredibly consistent from start to finish, tough ending. :thumbsup:
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GM of the Year Vote Tallies
:HOU: - 5
:OAK: - 4
:TOR: - 3
:MIL: - 3
:LAD: - 1
:STL: - 1
12 votes left
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Ben's team is loaded but had the misfortune of running into the buzz saw that is the Phillies. Can't vote for the Jays because they lost to the A's. Oakland GM told me that Jose Bautista was having a "career year" and wasn't interested in his services. 32 home runs later I wonder if he feels the same way.
I have to go with Kent Puett as GM of the Year. His team made a believer out of me by eliminating me in the final week of the season.My chances were slim but had I won that series and the Tigers and Indians lost, the AL Central would have gone to the W'Sox.
Good job Kent!
I still feel that way about Bautista, he did have a stellar year to your benefit. He always had potential in PIT, but could not hit for avg and get consitent playing time.
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I appreciate the votes and kind words on my team. I'll hold off until the WS is over to make it official, but I'm currently looking at the A's for my vote. The Astros made a great push when people counted them out, and I also really liked what St Louis did, but the A's were completely revamped during the offseason after a mediocre season, most importantly with a tiny budget, and are now have a shot at the title - seems like an easy vote to me.
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GM of the Year: My vote goes to Daniel Valensi of TOR.
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My vote goes towards the Oakland A's GM
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I have put my vote for Oakland low payroll and having great year mirror of real MLB team. Phillies are close 2 made some great moves late in year and pulling off knocking team in brewers I didn't see anyway could lose but shows have play games to find real results.
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The Dodgers have officially taken the lead...
:LAD: 952 - :PHI: 893
:NYY: 701 - :OAK: 285
The A's are dropping an egg in the ALCS. NLCS is very tight right now with three days to go.
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Gotta give my vote to Rob... very close with all of the candidates being bandied about, but Rob did a hell of a job with the A's.
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All signs point to the Dodgers successfully taking their revenge upon the Phillies and making somewhat of a surprise visit to the World Series against the Yankees.
:LAD: 1362 - :PHI: 1246
:NYY: 1159 - :OAK: 572
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Well it was a good run while it lasted. My hat is off to the Yanks. I can't believe Gregor Blanco could not carry me further.
Good luck to the Dodgers and Yanks in the playoffs.
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Wow, congrats to M.J.'s Dodgers on the huge victory over the Phillies. I will officially announce the next GM movements later today.
Final week matchup for the World Series - Dodgers :LAD: vs. Yankees :NYY:
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My GM of the year vote goes to Rob Miller, Oakland Athletics.
~MTK
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GM of the Year Vote Tallies
:OAK: 8
:HOU: 5
:TOR: 4
:MIL: 3
:STL: 1
:LAD: 1
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I am surprised by the lack of voting support for the teams in the World Series. I know I didn't vote for them but figured others would.
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:NYY: 573 - :LAD: 505
Very close matchup right now with five days to go in the 2010 FGM World Series.
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Dodgers are up big on the Yankees right now. The Dodgers are on the verge of winning the World Series, and although respected, they were never #1 in my rankings throughout the season. In the preseason, I even mentioned that the Rockies would contend with them for the division. M.J.'s Dodgers proved they are a team to beat. :toth:
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Congratulations to Mike "M.J." Mezzetti whose Los Angeles Dodgers beat the New York Yankees 1760 - 1261 in the 2010 World Series. Corey Ramsey's Yankees went to their 2nd straight World Series, but this time the team lost. The Dodgers weren't one of the absolute favorites like the Brewers, Yankees, or Phillies, but the team was very strong all year long. Mike, the expectations are that your team will be in the hunt for years to come with a bunch of top tier talent coming up through the farm.
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Congrats MJ!
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Congrats MJ, nice run.
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Thanks. I'm looking forward to the offseason. I should have considerable cap space for a limited number of roster spots this offseason.
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Congrats MJ. George just rolled over in his grave. Lost to the Dodgers. haha congrats!
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I am still waiting on some more votes for GM of the Year. I will allow voting to continue until the end of the draft. Also, I have posted the season awards in the record book. Below is a copy for all of you to enjoy. Just admire how our scoring system has correctly identified the Cy Young winners and the rookies of the year. McCutchen barely missed out to Heyward and Austin Jackson trailed both of them in the NL. Jose Bautista proved his worth not just with his bat but with his glove (something no one ever doubted him). Familiar names from the past jump into the Gold Glove awards with Pierre and Eckstein (whose bat was horrible this year). Plenty of repeat names from last year such as Mauer, Pujols, McCann, Choo, and Wells.
Using the official scoring system and what teams the players were with at the end of the season, the following players have won these awards. Fantasy points are noted in parenthesis.
National League
NL MVP: Albert Pujols (5472) :MIL:
NL Cy Young: Roy Halladay (2583) :SF:
Rookie of the Year: Jason Heyward (3166) :ATL:
Silver Slugger Team
C: Joe Mauer (3043) :COL: / Joe Mauer (562) :COL:
CI: Albert Pujols (5472) :MIL: / Albert Pujols (1275) :MIL:
CI: Adrian Gonzalez (4238) :STL: / Brandon Inge (965) :CIN:
MI: Rickie Weeks (3779) :LAD: / Kelly Johnson (899) :LAD:
MI: Kelly Johnson (3642) :LAD: / David Eckstein (822) :SD:
OF: Jose Bautista (5162) :ARZ: / Jose Bautista (1266) :ARZ:
OF: Carlos Gonzalez (4188) :ARZ: / Brett Gardner (765) :PIT:
OF: Josh Hamilton (4263) :CIN: / Juan Pierre (762) :PIT:
American League
MVP: Joey Votto (5172) :CLE:
Cy Young: Felix Hernandez (2590) :SEA:
Rookie of the Year: Gaby Sanchez (2378) :DET:
Silver Slugger / Gold Glove Teams
C: Brian McCann (2398) :LAA: / John Buck (406) :TEX:
CI: Joey Votto (5172) :CLE: / Johhny Peralta (1256) :CLE:
CI: Miguel Cabrera (4772) :BOS: / Placido Polanco (1211) :LAA:
MI: Robinson Cano (4431) :OAK: / Robinson Cano (1275) :OAK:
MI: Dan Uggla (3632) :TOR: / Brandon Phillips (1115) :TOR:
OF: Shin-Soo Choo (3754) :CLE: / Ben Zobrist (1429) :TOR:
OF: Aubrey Huff (4092) :TOR: / Garrett Jones (963) :OAK:
OF: Adam Dunn (3722) :NYY: / Vernon Wells (786) :NYY:
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Great stuff Colby, and congrats MJ! LA is a team to be reckoned with for years to come.
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Great stuff Colby, and congrats MJ! LA is a team to be reckoned with for years to come.
Are the Dodgers your vote for GM of the Year?
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I'm voting for Oakland.
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Oakland for me as well.
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Congrats to Robert Miller whose A's bring in the GM of the Year award. Most people voted for him based on his quick turn-around of a team that once had no offense and still has very little cap room.
:OAK: 10
:HOU: 5
:MIL: 3
:TOR: 4
:STL: 1
:LAD: 1
There were five GMs who did not vote.
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Thanks to all for the votes, there were many deserving GMs and ultimately the Dodgers won the prize we all want. I hope the A's are built to compete in the future as well.
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Congrats Rob. Hopefully we can get all 30 GMs to be active all year. It got a little choppy during Free Agency last year. Congrats also to Daniel, Kent, and Paul for the rest of the league recognizing their solid GM seasons. And kudos to MJ for taking the title home. I was among the many who thought it was the Brewers title to lose.
So do we vote for MVPs, ROYs, and Cy Youngs now?
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Congrats Rob. Hopefully we can get all 30 GMs to be active all year. It got a little choppy during Free Agency last year. Congrats also to Daniel, Kent, and Paul for the rest of the league recognizing their solid GM seasons. And kudos to MJ for taking the title home. I was among the many who thought it was the Brewers title to lose.
So do we vote for MVPs, ROYs, and Cy Youngs now?
Look at the record book... all of that is there based on our scoring system.