DISCUSSION: Same owner Team A Drops Team B bidding (Jay Harrison)

[ripper]

Let's have a discussion about buy-outs.

If you bid on a player, win him then buy him out......

You should not be able to use an exemption and essentially win back the player at a reduced salary.

I would like to see a time added (30 days) before you can even bid on a released player.

We need to correct the rule to make this a better league.

[izaman3]

 

[SlackJack]

Keep in mind that the buy-out rules are purposely forgiving. The aim is to 1) prevent franchises from being burdened with crippling contracts and 2) to replenish the free-agency pool. If as a result GM's are able to wiggle out tough contracts I think it's all well and good.

That said a couple minor stipulations might help. Not sure what a 30 day clause would do, but what about one that stated something to the effect that all new contracts must be honoured for the season they were signed in? In other words, new contracts would be ineligible for buy-out until their second year. Fair?

[Jonathan]

30 days clause is specifically so you cannot buyout someone, then start bidding on them. I am fine either way honestly, if the rule changes, everyone will just be buying guys out, while the sale lasts. I am sure every GM has a list.


Here is another idea,

if you buyout a player, and then win that player back, then the original contract is restored. I like that. Loophole is closed.

Although, you could argue this rule makes the league unique and why it still exists.

[SlackJack]

30 days clause is specifically so you cannot buyout someone, then start bidding on them. I am fine either way honestly, if the rule changes, everyone will just be buying guys out, while the sale lasts. I am sure every GM has a list.

True about the sell offs. I suppose a 30 day restriction would help assuming other GM's get in on the free-agent. Wasn't looking at it with that in mind but see now it works. (Except that it would be a hassle to track. Far simpler to say that if you buy a player out, you can't rebid on same. Period. )

[snugerud]

Can we call it the Sean Avery rule?

Even though I am obviously the biggest offender and it may surprise you, but I am entirely for that change.  I think its a total cop out, but I am definitely going to use it while I can.

As with Hutch I full well knew someone would bid him.. I just went the 22 to get the market to where I needed it without a bunch of pussy footing. 

[izaman3]

Can we call it the Sean Avery rule?

Even though I am obviously the biggest offender and it may surprise you, but I am entirely for that change.  I think its a total cop out, but I am definitely going to use it while I can.

 

haha, 

Snug I'm totally for you using it while its available. I almost used it a couple times and then didn't, but maybe I might if the rule is going to change soon. But I think it something we talk about and change for the future.

[Jonathan]

Can we call it the Sean Avery rule?

Even though I am obviously the biggest offender and it may surprise you, but I am entirely for that change.  I think its a total cop out, but I am definitely going to use it while I can.

As with Hutch I full well knew someone would bid him.. I just went the 22 to get the market to where I needed it without a bunch of pussy footing.

and I only bid on him b/c I knew if it didn't work out, I could do same thing. Also, I only have Lehtonen, and if he goes down, I am toast.

[snugerud]

As long as he doesnt get sent to the minors your ok...

I had it all figured out that at the 5.5 , I could buy him out again at the .66  and lump it all into this year.

I had actually offered a 4th round pick to about 8 different GMS to trade and have them buy him out so that I could use the buy out /discount option at the 5.5 rate, but couldnt get anyone to bite. 

[snugerud]

30 days clause is specifically so you cannot buyout someone, then start bidding on them. I am fine either way honestly, if the rule changes, everyone will just be buying guys out, while the sale lasts. I am sure every GM has a list.

if you cant see me I am rubbing my hands together and licking my chops for people to start buying out their players!! I got money in the bank and would love for that to happen.