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HEADS UP Goalie Extensions Increase 2016-17
« on: May 07, 2015, 02:55:13 PM »
That's right. Market conditions are driving up the value of goalie contracts in the NHL and FNHL will be keeping up and probably a step ahead with projected extension value increases to kick in starting August 2016 at contract roll-over.

Top 10 and possibly Top 15 goalie salaries will be north of $10.0m.

UPDATED JANUARY 7, 2016

Here are the new Extension values for the TOP 10 Franchise NHL Goalies starting August 2016
Contract Roll-over date (approximately August 16th).

(TOP 10 GOALIE EXTENSIONS INCREASE EFFECTIVE AUGUST 2016)
1   10.4  >>> 14.3
2   10.2  >>> 13.5
3   9.9  >>> 12.9
4   9.7  >>> 12.3
5   9.5  >>> 11.7
6   9.3  >>> 11.1
7   9.1  >>> 10.5
8   8.9  >>> 9.9
9   8.7  >>> 9.4
10   8.5  >>> 8.9

« Last Edit: April 13, 2016, 03:36:50 PM by PsychoticPondGoons »
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Re: HEADS UP Goalie Extensions Increase 2016-17
« Reply #1 on: May 09, 2015, 12:55:54 AM »
The highest base salary this yr in the NHL is supposed to be Shea Weber's $14m

Are you thinking of that as the top extension value or highed/lower?
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Re: HEADS UP Goalie Extensions Increase 2016-17
« Reply #2 on: May 24, 2015, 11:06:42 AM »
So I understand, what is the purpose of this increase?

The way I see it, it's to do one of these 3 things

To keep up with contract values of top NHL players? Or
Force owners to not hoard starting goalies? Or
A knuckleball to change things up in our cap league?
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Re: HEADS UP Goalie Extensions Increase 2016-17
« Reply #3 on: May 24, 2015, 05:36:10 PM »
So I understand, what is the purpose of this increase?

The way I see it, it's to do one of these 3 things

To keep up with contract values of top NHL players? Or
Force owners to not hoard starting goalies? Or
A knuckleball to change things up in our cap league?

ALL 3!
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Re: HEADS UP Goalie Extensions Increase 2016-17
« Reply #4 on: May 24, 2015, 06:18:02 PM »
Looked like JD might have been asking about raising the cap on skaters as well. If not then let me....with Toews and Kane at $10.5m and Stamkos soon to follow, are you thinking of raising the maximum values for other players as well? Just curious.
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Re: HEADS UP Goalie Extensions Increase 2016-17
« Reply #5 on: May 24, 2015, 11:05:31 PM »
I think it's important to note that salary per year is different from cap hit. It's easier to pay a guy 10.5m when his cap hit is only 8m.

Not to mention that Chicago (real life Chi-town) keeps running into cap trouble. They had to let Leddy go for nothing and they have to make some interesting moves this off-season.

Point is that we should be looking at cap hit for year and not salary. Real life teams can have variable contracts and we can't
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Re: HEADS UP Goalie Extensions Increase 2016-17
« Reply #6 on: May 24, 2015, 11:42:03 PM »
I think it's important to note that salary per year is different from cap hit. It's easier to pay a guy 10.5m when his cap hit is only 8m.

Not to mention that Chicago (real life Chi-town) keeps running into cap trouble. They had to let Leddy go for nothing and they have to make some interesting moves this off-season.

Point is that we should be looking at cap hit for year and not salary. Real life teams can have variable contracts and we can't

Good point. I think the variable contracts have been changed a lot to prevent the back-diving so that cap hits in the future will be more in line with salaries but yes we don't have the same flexibility. I know there's a CBA rule that caps any one players pay to 20% of the over-all team cap but I'm not sure if that relates to cap number or actual salary.

Anyways I think there was some general curiosity about whether the other positions would see a hike or if this is more to about adjusting for the league being skewed towards goalies.
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Re: HEADS UP Goalie Extensions Increase 2016-17
« Reply #7 on: May 25, 2015, 12:09:47 AM »
Anyways I think there was some general curiosity about whether the other positions would see a hike or if this is more to about adjusting for the league being skewed towards goalies.

More about moving away from teams being able to hold 2 starting goalies for any extended period of time give this is a league that rewards goalies.


I think it's important to note that salary per year is different from cap hit. It's easier to pay a guy 10.5m when his cap hit is only 8m.

Not to mention that Chicago (real life Chi-town) keeps running into cap trouble. They had to let Leddy go for nothing and they have to make some interesting moves this off-season.

You nailed it in your own post Izaman!
The NHL's Chicago Blackhawks example is what we want with respect to goalies.
FNHL teams will have to make choices. The high cost of a starting goalie will make teams really think long and hard about how they build their roster from the net out. It will lead to a few more FA skaters each yr.
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Re: HEADS UP Goalie Extensions Increase 2016-17
« Reply #8 on: May 27, 2015, 01:02:51 PM »
The highest base salary this yr in the NHL is supposed to be Shea Weber's $14m

Are you thinking of that as the top extension value or higher/lower?

Yes.
We're going to figure out the top end of the FNHL payscale so that it can be left for a few years. $15 or $16 sounds about right.
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Re: HEADS UP Goalie Extensions Increase 2016-17
« Reply #9 on: May 27, 2015, 02:44:27 PM »
Yes.
We're going to figure out the top end of the FNHL payscale so that it can be left for a few years. $15 or $16 sounds about right.

Hope you're only looking at the top-end and not pushing salaries up across the board. It would be very ugly having to pay a Jussi Rynnas type over $6m per. Even the $2.2m he commands now is rich.  :toth:
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