HEADS UP Goalie Extensions Increase 2016-17

[favo_zomg]

Hope you're only looking at the top-end and not pushing salaries up across the board. It would be very ugly having to pay a Jussi Rynnas type over $6m per. Even the $2.2m he commands now is rich. 

 

[dickiedunn]

Hope you're only looking at the top-end and not pushing salaries up across the board. It would be very ugly having to pay a Jussi Rynnas type over $6m per. Even the $2.2m he commands now is rich. 

I am sure it only impacts the top Goaltenders.

PPG said the top 5 Goaltenders would be affected but I would like to see it only for the top 10.

- DD

[PigsRule]

It'll be goalies in the top 1-15... PPG will crunch numbers and post the goalie rankings that will be updated. I do feel top 8 or top 10 makes most sense.

[PigsRule]

It'll be goalies in the top 1-15... PPG will crunch numbers and post the goalie rankings that will be updated. I do feel top 8 or top 10 makes most sense.

there is still a pending task on this: need to confirm the range of Goalie rankings this impacts top #1-10 or #1-15...

[Burkes Boys]

What's the status on this PPG?

[snugerud]

You guys should probably look into revamping the list down through for goalies.   When I revamped them I just did a 20% hike across the board. ( I did kind of a crappy job)  Goalie extensions really need more of a stepped approach vs. the skaters extensions. 

When you look at it the top 33 players in ftps last year were all goalies(except ovi, he is a freak) .  So your top 30 highest paid players in the league should in a perfect world be all goalies. ie 30 teams 30 starting goalies.   

Your current 30th goalie extension is only 5.9 highest is 10.4, which is too much of a drop off between starting goalies as they all produce somewhat similar numbers.  You top 5 goalies should be probably in the 10-12 region , 6th to 30th should start dropping 10-8mill, 30th to 45 should take another steep dive since you are starting to get into backup territory with less than half the value of a full starter. 8mill drop to 4/5 mill
45 to 65 , 4/5mill to 2.5/3 mill ,   Anything after 65 is getting into speculation and should start a stead spike down to 1million (any goalie worth having on your pro roster should be at least 1mill per year)

***credit to Slackjack for our converstion and bringing out an obvious flaw in the mid section of the extensions***

[PsychoticPondGoons]

You guys should probably look into revamping the list down through for goalies.   When I revamped them I just did a 20% hike across the board. ( I did kind of a crappy job)  Goalie extensions really need more of a stepped approach vs. the skaters extensions. 

When you look at it the top 33 players in ftps last year were all goalies(except ovi, he is a freak) .  So your top 30 highest paid players in the league should in a perfect world be all goalies. ie 30 teams 30 starting goalies.   

Your current 30th goalie extension is only 5.9 highest is 10.4, which is too much of a drop off between starting goalies as they all produce somewhat similar numbers.  You top 5 goalies should be probably in the 10-12 region , 6th to 30th should start dropping 10-8mill, 30th to 45 should take another steep dive since you are starting to get into backup territory with less than half the value of a full starter. 8mill drop to 4/5 mill
45 to 65 , 4/5mill to 2.5/3 mill ,   Anything after 65 is getting into speculation and should start a stead spike down to 1million (any goalie worth having on your pro roster should be at least 1mill per year)

***credit to Slackjack for our converstion and bringing out an obvious flaw in the mid section of the extensions***

The Goalie Extensions were structured to ensure teams don't hoard Free Agent Goalie prospects without paying a steep price.

Because Goalie scoring is so damn off the charts in this league they have to be the highest earners. They are the mega stars of Franchise NHL so they will earn the most on extension deals.   And rightfully so man! I wouldn't have it any other way!

[snugerud]

The Goalie Extensions were structured to ensure teams don't hoard Free Agent Goalie prospects without paying a steep price.

Because Goalie scoring is so BooYah!  off the charts in this league they have to be the highest earners. They are the mega stars of Franchise NHL so they will earn the most on extension deals.   And rightfully so man! I wouldn't have it any other way!

i am not saying teams dont need to pony up or that they goalies are too expensive.  I am just saying there could be a better layout/divisions for the extensions.  They are not like skaters and there are some definite divisions/cutoffs that goalies go from extreme value to useless.

Teams should definitely have to pay for production but I dont think making someone pay 5mill per year for a speculation goalie is good.  I guess what i am saying in a round about way is yes increase to the top end goalies, but reduce the backend of goalies. 

 

[PigsRule]

We'll see after a few yrs. The new era of Goalie extensions only kicked in last yr so give it a little more time to play out.

Another way to position this is drafting goalies and holding them as prospects in the minors has gained more value.

i am not saying teams dont need to pony up or that they goalies are too expensive.  I am just saying there could be a better layout/divisions for the extensions.  They are not like skaters and there are some definite divisions/cutoffs that goalies go from extreme value to useless.

Teams should definitely have to pay for production but I dont think making someone pay 5mill per year for a speculation goalie is good.  I guess what i am saying in a round about way is yes increase to the top end goalies, but reduce the backend of goalies. 

 

[Jonathan]

We'll see after a few yrs. The new era of Goalie extensions only kicked in last yr so give it a little more time to play out.

Another way to position this is drafting goalies and holding them as prospects in the minors has gained more value.

  That is because you never changed Goalies as far as Entry Level Draft contracts are concerned.