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Dynasty NHL: Invalid Transactions / Re: pitts and van trades
« on: August 13, 2017, 08:03:43 PM »
To clarify, I got the 2nd for an additional $5.4m. So, I paid $10.8m for 2 very late picks (the last 2nd and 3rd for NEXT year!).

Hey now.... We're not just handing the 2017-18 league title to Shooter, haha.
Guy's gotta earn those back to back 'ships!

I don't think I'm the only one interested in dethroning the Blues to get that ugly pic of Tarasenko off our homepage haha. I can't even minimize it anymore since the site is all out of whack lately.

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Dynasty NHL: Invalid Transactions / Re: pitts and van trades
« on: August 13, 2017, 07:44:57 PM »
I see that this trade has been re-jigged, so just using the thread for convo

Makes sense to me while it's still open.


Maybe it's just me, but for some reason I don't see someone paying Sam Gange $6m per year in FA for 4 or 5 years in length. Then again I could be wrong...

And also Bozak could be flipped again for more picks/prospects down the road since he's on a minimum contract taking up next to no cap space for  a team.

For interests sake, I paid $5.4m (Mikko Koivu) for the 3rd round pick in the Suter deal. Monster deal for me, not saying it wasn't, but $5.4m for what is likely the last pick in next years draft is setting kind of a low bar for the value of cap space.

You also got a 2nd round pick in the Koivu deal.
Which, I get your point for this trade thread, which is why the 2nd rounder was taken out along with another 3rd rounder.

Also for comparison sake from past trades - paying $6.9m for a player, giving cap savings for a team got a 1st and 2nd round pick in return. (Chara trade, who's ranked 34th overall).
It only cost a couple of fringe players and 3rd rounder to get the 13th ranked D in the other trade (Suter trade).
Maybe it's just me, but the way we're all talking up draft picks, a 1st and a 2nd round pick for Morrow, Jaskin and a 3rd might even get vetoed now as well.

Either way, it's all good. I see where everyone is coming from.
It's the deal that was agreed upon so it was posted.
Now with the revision, PIT keeps some extra picks for future trade negotiations with other teams.

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Dynasty NHL: Invalid Transactions / Re: pitts and van trades
« on: August 13, 2017, 05:46:02 PM »
Respect the TC decision. That's what we're here for


Also to Slack's point - this year was really weird for draftees. Even with all of the keeper draftees we take, there were still 1st round players remaining to be had for some reason.
People were taking 2nd rounders over the 1st rounders, and taking NCAA college and some AHL guys, along with Swedish and Finnish league players.

I don't think I've ever seen 1st round draftees from the same year left at the end of our 60-pick rookie draft! Especially when there's only maybe 15 or so of them left after our keepers!

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Dynasty NHL: Completed Transactions / PIT / VAN Revised
« on: August 13, 2017, 05:38:41 PM »
vanvouver gets:
C Andrew Shaw, $4.3m (2017-2018)
X- 2018 3rd Round Draft Pick, Vegas, $m this year 
X- 2019 3rd Round Draft Pick, Pittsburgh, $m this year

pittsburgh gets
C Tyler Bozak, $0.5m (2017-2018)


Revised edition taking 2 picks off of the last deal including the 2nd rounder

PIT still saves $3.8m in cap and doesn't lose out on production this year (gains some in fact)

I didn't plan on being involved in FA so I can take the cap hit

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Dynasty NHL: Invalid Transactions / Re: pitts and van trades
« on: August 13, 2017, 12:39:08 PM »
Vancouver confirms the trade.

I realize it looks like a lot coming back on paper. This was the reasoning the trade ended up happening like it is:

PIT wants to clear cap space for FA, and this swap clears up $3.8m in cap for PIT.

Bozak was actually the better fantasy player last year too:
Shaw: 143.5 fantasy points  (2.11 per game)
Bozak: 189.5 fantasy points  (2.43 per game)

Realistically neither of these 2 players will be re-signed in the off-season, given the high re-sign values for Centres in our league.
So PIT wanted to give the future picks to get cap space right now to sign a longer-term FA for his roster.

Overall, in exchange for the $3.8m in cap and the slightly better production, VAN gets some late round draft picks in the future. The 2nd will (hopefully) be a very late 2nd rounder, and the 3rd's are 3rd's

Also, we all value draft picks differently.
Some of us value 3rd rounders because like to dig up the older prospects in hopes that their NCAA college success turns into NHL playing time.
I know others hate draft picks all-together outside of top-10 selections, and then others just auto-draft the current year's rookies.

Either way - I'll let the TC decide what happens.
This is just the deal that was drawn up that was acceptable to PIT in order to clear some more cap space before FA starts.

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Dynasty NHL: Completed Transactions / Vancouver Canucks Extensions
« on: August 13, 2017, 01:07:57 AM »
Canucks are going to take a gamble and extend hometown kid Troy Stecher:

120th ranked D = $1.8m extension

Bump that up to $2.0m per year to get him on a 3-year deal.

D Troy Stecher, $2.0m (2019-2020)


Here's hoping he improves on his rookie season and makes this contract worth it (or better yet, makes this contract look cheap in comparison to what he is producing!)

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Dynasty NHL: Completed Transactions / Re: Pens and Coyotes!
« on: August 13, 2017, 01:03:45 AM »
Approve

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Dynasty NHL: Completed Transactions / Re: Buffalo - Toronto
« on: August 11, 2017, 11:15:43 AM »
Approve

I did try - although my minors (and main) roster are now full anyways

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Dynasty NHL: Completed Transactions / Canucks & Capitals Trade
« on: August 10, 2017, 11:31:48 PM »
Capitals Trade:
Pick 3-17
X- 2018 3rd Round Draft Pick, Washington, $m this year

Canucks Trade:
C/RW Seth Griffith, $m (P-18/19)
D Maxwell Gildon, $m (P-n/a)
RW Ty Rattie, $m (P-n/a)


Canucks Confirm.

Still have a handful of gamble picks left so taking a chance it'll be there in a few picks this year, and add another 3rd for next year too.

Lose out on Rattie and Griffith joining new teams with fresh starts, so hopefully they don't go bonkers this year and finally find the scoring touch in the NHL.
Gildon's a longer term project but scouts seem to have nice things to say about him, and he's already got the size which you can't teach.

Either way, I'll take the gamble on whatever I get at 3-17

Thanks for the deal Brian.

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Dynasty NHL: Completed Transactions / Re: Colorado - Montreal Trade
« on: August 10, 2017, 07:06:04 PM »
Approve

Snug also beat me to it while I was busy

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