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Who has made the most improvements this offseason? (You may change vote)

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Voting closed: April 19, 2010, 01:18:18 PM

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Re: Who has made the most improvements this offseason?
« Reply #10 on: November 20, 2009, 07:19:47 PM »
I don't understand the infatuation with Gordon Beckham. Absolutely a good infielder. Compare with McGehee:
  G    AB  R    H   2B 3B  HR  RBI    TB    BB   SO  SB  CS     OBP      SLG     AVG   
 116 355 58 107  20  1   16   66   177   34    67   0   2      .360     .499     .301

Beckham:
 103 378 58 102   28 1   14   63   174   41    65   7    4     .347      .460     .270
Pretty much comparable and McGehee fended off Gamels who was supposed to be the Brewers top 2 or 3 prospect. Yes, I'm thrilled to get him a N.Feliz for Beckham and a 2A pitcher

If you compare their stats for 2009, definitely very comparable players.  For McGehee to put up that season, even at age 26 and with significant high-minors development time, is impressive and he has a reasonable chance at a good future.  For Beckham to do it at age 22, one season in the minors is just much more impressive IMO, and gives reason to think his ceiling is much higher.  How will it play out?  Who knows...

If you're going to evaluate based on 2009 stats alone, Daniel Hudson is no 2A pitcher...
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Re: Who has made the most improvements this offseason?
« Reply #11 on: November 20, 2009, 07:25:13 PM »
I'll stand by the trade.

As you should... It was a swap of some great young players - only time will tell how it works out, and the consensus view on a prospect is hardly an exact predictor (neither Beckham nor Feliz are sure things).
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Re: Who has made the most improvements this offseason?
« Reply #12 on: November 20, 2009, 07:42:52 PM »
As you should... It was a swap of some great young players - only time will tell how it works out, and the consensus view on a prospect is hardly an exact predictor (neither Beckham nor Feliz are sure things).
Exactly. Speculation on prospects is scary. Jay Bruce came thru the system and was MiLB POY. Had a good rookie year and then 2009...ouch. I had an asset and, I think, turned it into two assets. Time will tell.
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Re: Who has made the most improvements this offseason?
« Reply #13 on: November 20, 2009, 09:10:09 PM »
I also think the A's has improved the most as they have so little to work with to begin with. Brewers also improved but they already have a good team to begin with.
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Re: Who has made the most improvements this offseason?
« Reply #14 on: November 20, 2009, 09:54:30 PM »
Jay Bruce has hit over 20 homers in two shortened seasons in the Majors, most guys are still in A, or AA ball. Given his pace he would have hit 30 homers last year. Hardly an "ouch" year for a 22 year old. His BABIP last year was around .200. So his low batting average was due to extremely bad luck. He is never going to put up an OBP of .400, that is not the type of hitter he is, not even when he was destroying the minor leagues. No one is bagging on you for making the trade, but most people, quote un quote experts as well, feel that Gordon Beckham will be a star for many years to come, and from an middle infield position. And as far as Gamel goes, the guy could not play third base at all. Not even barely like Ryan Braun could before he got shipped to left field. The Brewers had no room to move him to the OF. Plus IMHO - Gamel will never be the player everyone thought he was going to be.
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Re: Who has made the most improvements this offseason?
« Reply #15 on: November 23, 2009, 03:00:33 PM »
I voted for the Rockies.  Landing Hudson, Haren, and especially Justin Upton, while holding onto Hawpe and Tulo, should ensure his team will contend in that division next year.
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Re: Who has made the most improvements this offseason?
« Reply #16 on: December 30, 2009, 03:53:13 PM »
 :bump:

Howe's Rockies have been quite busy!
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