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Fantasy Leagues => NHL Leagues => Franchise NHL => Topic started by: PigsRule on December 13, 2016, 11:54:54 AM
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30 days for owners to vote on possible change to be applied at the start of the 2017-18 FNHL season (per FNHL policy, we try to avoid making in-season rule changes).
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I don't think it would keep with whole concept of the salary cap if we allowed players to be used in games that didn't count against it.
My idea would be that a guy can be called up or sent down during the first 82 games but after that he has to stay up with the big club or be bought out. Once you call him up the first time you would give him a two way contract which only counts against the cap while he's on the main roster(same rules apply for length and amount as they do today). After 82 games it becomes one way and he has to be called up or bought out.
Whatever though just my two cents.
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I don't think it would keep with whole concept of the salary cap if we allowed players to be used in games that didn't count against it.
My idea would be that a guy can be called up or sent down during the first 82 games but after that he has to stay up with the big club or be bought out. Once you call him up the first time you would give him a two way contract which only counts against the cap while he's on the main roster(same rules apply for length and amount as they do today). After 82 games it becomes one way and he has to be called up or bought out.
Whatever though just my two cents.
Pt taken Halo99.
I think the idea Snugerud communicated was to give owner/teams the 82 game freebie sampling of the prospect without dishing out a contract. An assessment period with no strings, no extra work, but yes - once the 82 gm max reached a Wntry Level contract would absolutely need to be given or the prospect released outright.
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I like the ability to test drive the rookies at no cost or obligation to sign to a EL contract. :thumbsup:
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I like the ability to test drive the rookies at no cost or obligation to sign to a EL contract. :thumbsup:
It also eliminates the need for waivers with the prospects. Less work for PPG. :afro:
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12 voters have stopped by so far.
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From what I have read of this history with minor league prospects in this league there were problems with timing promotion of the minor leaguers, what type of penalty when minor leaguers are not promoted after 40 NHL games played, problems with owners inserting minor leaguers in the league up without an official rookie contract.
The Combination Option appears to address all those problems by giving teams a longer assessment period and the ability to freely use the minor leaguer up to the 82 game mark.
Overall that Combination Option appears to be a good solution to a long standing issue from what I can find and read in the league's archives.
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From what I have read of this history with minor league prospects in this league there were problems with timing promotion of the minor leaguers, what type of penalty when minor leaguers are not promoted after 40 NHL games played, problems with owners inserting minor leaguers in the league up without an official rookie contract.
The Combination Option appears to address all those problems by giving teams a longer assessment period and the ability to freely use the minor leaguer up to the 82 game mark.
Overall that Combination Option appears to be a good solution to a long standing issue from what I can find and read in the league's archives.
:iatp: I like this gent. Actually dug through our old posts.
DTox, how long were you trolling our boards. LOL
:bump: Needs more votes. :judge:
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:iatp: I like this gent. Actually dug through our old posts.
DTox, how long were you trolling our boards. LOL
:bump: Needs more votes. :judge:
:rofl::iatp:
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Are we missing more votes or are the balance of outstanding votes due to the Multi-Franchise owners having already voted?
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This vote goes until Voting closes: January 12, 2017, 10:54:54
I think another 6-8 owners still need to vote. :toast:
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Then it's pretty much wrapping up. Good to know. :thumbsup:
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Question for the Commissioners, do owners that own more than one franchise count as 1 vote or the same number as the number of franchises they own?
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Question for the Commissioners, do owners that own more than one franchise count as 1 vote or the same number as the number of franchises they own?
Traditionally an FNHL owner had as many votes as they did teams since extra teams were purchased as an investment. Kind of like having shares of a public company. :thumbsup::thumbsup:
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Traditionally an FNHL owner had as many votes as they did teams since extra teams were purchased as an investment. Kind of like having shares of a public company. :thumbsup::thumbsup:
Correct. :iatp:
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Given the possibility of an increase to the maximum number of games played before a prospects needs to be signed to an Entry Level contract and the likelihood of a Supplemental Draft to be established in 2018, I propose Minor league rosters be increased to accommodate these respective changes.
If you look at how MLB and NHL minor leagues are structured, it supports the need to create more minor league roster spots.
I recommend increasing MiLR to 45-50 with another 20 for Supplemental Draft players.
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no.. minor leagues are already far too big for a fantasy league.
Scroll through the teams. Only 1 or 2 have maxed their minor roster, most are in the 15/20 range, and about 1/4 of the teams have less than 15. I didnt do the full numbers but I would say there is currently room for at least another 300-400 players in the minor leagues.
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If the goal is to make Specs and draft picks more valuable and reward owners that do their homework, then I agree with Dickie Dunn.
If you have more prospects available to add at anytime through FA they'll be less scarce and therefore less valuable.
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If thats the case or the aim to make FA's harder to come by, dont put a cap on milr at all,,, or make MILR eligible players ineligible to be signed via FA. So in our case here any players with less than 80 NHL games played can not be signed via Free Agency.
Although if you go that route, I would recommend putting an age limit to minor league eligibility at say 24 or 25.
btw, pigs/ppg You may have already done this but if you set the minor league eligibility settings it makes the minor league very easy to police. all you have to do is go to Team > roster violations and it will show any team with minor league roster violations.
Edit: The problem I see with continuing to increase the size of the MILR is our depth of knowledge on prospects can only go so far. At some point there is a tipping scale where it goes from well researched doing your home work to you mine as well just pick a name out of a hat because the players are that obscure. Increasing the milr will also not stop gms from signing players in FA that they think is a diamond in the rough. They will sign them rather than take the chance or waiting for a supplemental draft.
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I would agree with DickieDunn regarding an increase to the size of the farm roster. However, I would not increase it to the extent that DickieDunn proposed because as Snugerud mentioned it can create a negative effect whether the effort to build and maintain one's farm becomes too time consuming and draft picks are effectively devalued when teams just toss them into trades as an afterthought.
Mind you, the we may soon be able to freely use prospects in your active lineup without signing them to a Rookie Contract until they reach 80-something games will boost Draft Pick value.
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Oilers represent the only team with a full minors. Actually, I've had to make moves just to accommodate guys. I don't care if you increase it or not. I will keep it filled either way :beer: If you choose to not maximize your actual roster, then that is your choice, not mine. 60/60 here in Oil city.
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Lets see where we end up with both proposed rule additions/changes then take it from there.
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30 days for owners to vote on possible change to be applied at the start of the 2017-18 FNHL season (per FNHL policy, we try to avoid making in-season rule changes).
5 days left for this vote gents! :toast:
Vote if you haven't already.
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Great idea. This makes prospectsvand draft picks hold their value.
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So does this take effect this Fall?
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So does this take effect this Fall?
The change that receives the most votes will ho into effect as of mid August when the 2017-18 kicks off.
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Great idea. This makes prospectsvand draft picks hold their value.
:iatp:
I agree. Looking forward to seeing the final results and how they will be applied.
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30 days for owners to vote on possible change to be applied at the start of the 2017-18 FNHL season (per FNHL policy, we try to avoid making in-season rule changes).
This vote closes tmw AM.
Vote on the rule change if you haven't already. :toast:
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30 days for owners to vote on possible change to be applied at the start of the 2017-18 FNHL season (per FNHL policy, we try to avoid making in-season rule changes).
This is now closed. PR will have a look at the results and count up the votes. :toast:
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RULE CHANGE 2017-18
(a) INCREASE to max. 82 games AND (b) allow free use in active lineup without promoting player until more than 82 games played
So we'll implement the rule starting in 2017-18. :judge:
Results from PR are
5 Keep 40
1 up to 60
3 up to 82
14 82 & Use freely
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RULE CHANGE 2017-18
(a) INCREASE to max. 82 games AND (b) allow free use in active lineup without promoting player until more than 82 games played
So we'll implement the rule starting in 2017-18. :judge:
Results from PR are
5 Keep 40
1 up to 60
3 up to 82
14 82 & Use freely
http://www.profsl.com/smf/index.php?topic=8272.0
OK gents, rules page for MiLR games played updated. :judge: