Should we change DNHL to a money league?

[shooter47]

I think one thing that hasn't been discussed yet is that we haven't really gotten thru the first prospect extensions in the league. The top prospects that were available when the league started (Huberdeau, Landeskog, Tyler Seguin, Taylor Hall, Sean Couturier, Ryan Johansen) are finally going to be hitting the end of their prospect contracts starting this year. I think in the next couple years you will see more teams having to give these types of players higher extensions which will make them run into more cap issues. This should naturally lead to more interesting players being unsigned and entering FA as teams will need to prioritize the players they do resign.

[jlapo11]

Outside of the country. Internet ver slow. Will read everything upon my return next week

[SlackJack]

I think one thing that hasn't been discussed yet is that we haven't really gotten thru the first prospect extensions in the league. The top prospects that were available when the league started (Huberdeau, Landeskog, Tyler Seguin, Taylor Hall, Sean Couturier, Ryan Johansen) are finally going to be hitting the end of their prospect contracts starting this year. I think in the next couple years you will see more teams having to give these types of players higher extensions which will make them run into more cap issues. This should naturally lead to more interesting players being unsigned and entering FA as teams will need to prioritize the players they do resign.

Really good point!

[jmtrops]

next year I will have about 11M in cap space but in 19/20 I have a bunch of players coming off of prospect contracts and if everything stays the same I will be over the cap. so next year I will have to trade or buyout a couple of players. Because of this I really cant be active in FA next year without getting rid of the same amount of salary.

[jmtrops]

im in a dynasty BB league on another site. they have a franchise tag and 2 RFA tags. with this you can only sign 3 extentions a year. The franchise tag you have to have his real life yearly average salary to extend. with the RFA tag all the other teams can put in a blind bid and the team with the highest yearly average wins the bid. the original team that tagged him can match it or let him go to the winning team and they would get compensation draft picks. something like this would be interesting

[snugerud]

The top prospects that were available when the league started (Huberdeau, Landeskog, Tyler Seguin, Taylor Hall, Sean Couturier, Ryan Johansen) are finally going to be hitting the end of their prospect contracts starting this year.


Not sure that is an accurate statement.  Discounted prospect contract is a relatively new rule(came into effect, 2 maybe 3 seasons ago),  so pretty sure most of those guys are on full , non discounted contracts.  Couturier is low because up until this year he was a 30-40pts guy.  Seguin and Hall are both around 7 mill which sounds like its full contract. Landeskog is 5 mill which sounds like a full contract as well when you consider the extensions at LW are lower than centers. I didnt look up Huberdeau or Johansen.

If anything, I would say we havent seen the full effect of the discounted prospect contracts.
 

[GypsieDeathBringer]

Great point by Shooter.  Just did a decently thorough check.  Seguin and Hall were full contracts

Landeskog, Couturier, Johansen, Justin Faulk, Orlov, Henrique, TJ Brodie, Nick Leddy,   have prospect contracts due up at the end of next year

Guys like Jaden Schwartz, Huberdeau, Bishop, Reilly Smith, Atkinson, Barrie,  are prospect contracts done at the end of 19-20

Toffoli, Mackinnon, Trouba, Tatar, Tarasenko, H. Lindholm, Seth Jones, Maroon, E. Lindholm, Rakell, Ristolainen, Talbot,  are up at the end of 20-21

Looks like the first big batch will be ending at the end of next year.  With that out there maybe it is best to wait.

It does seem we are wandering away from the idea of increased participation into just tinkering though.  But, I'm all for a good tinker.

[Rob]

Sequin and Hall never had prospect contracts because they hit 40 GP in 2010/2011 - the year prior to when we started.  Therefore they were already NHL players at inception, not prospects.

But Shooter's general point is accurate - and we have had prospect discounts since day one.

But I just see it as relative.  You have older guys that previously had very high contracts phasing out (Chara, for instance).  Then you have the group you're discussing, coming off prospect contracts and getting more expensive.  Then you have new prospects carving out FP on budget contracts.  Moreover, we spent at least 1 or 2 extension periods without reducing the extension value of Defensive players.  This means that all the original D contracts plus all of the originally extended D players are getting reductions. Which on its own might offset the increase from the end of the original prospect contracts.

I don't see it having a huge effect.

[SlackJack]

Great energy and wealth of ideas that have been shared the last couple of days, it feels like a virtual GM's meeting!

[tanager]

If it is not broken no need too change it.Just a thought from the new guy.Does not matter too me either way.Just a thought i had.What if we gave out trophies too the winners in place of a money league just for fun.Were we put in money for trophies in its place?