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Fantasy Leagues => NHL Leagues => Franchise NHL => Topic started by: SlackJack on May 01, 2015, 01:12:57 PM
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What do you think of extending the Amnesty Buy-out period to enable new GM's to get rid of players that should have been dropped by GM's that quit instead? A GM that decides not to return at the end of the finals isn't likely to make any moves for the benefit of the franchise.
Look at :TOR-NHL: currently as a mock example. That franchise has $12m tied up in goalies that likely won't play next year....any GM that takes over would benefit from access to the ABO program if it were extended through the Summer.
What do you think?
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What do you think of extending the Amnesty Buy-out period to enable new GM's to get rid of players that should have been dropped by GM's that quit instead? A GM that decides not to return at the end of the finals isn't likely to make any moves for the benefit of the franchise.
Look at :TOR-NHL: currently as a mock example. That franchise has $12m tied up in goalies that likely won't play next year....any GM that takes over would benefit from access to the ABO program if it were extended through the Summer.
What do you think?
I'll leave it to PR since he created the ABO and probably set it up the way he did for a reason.
As far as :TOR-NHL: Toronto goes. They said they are back man. :toast:
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Personally I like the ABO period for 2wks. We also allow for postdating which is something Snugerud did his 1st time around FNHL with NYI cleaning up the last owner's mess. LOL
After that the other key ways to get rid of contracts are through trades and buyouts.
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Thinking of the ABO, it's not even the best way to dump and burn a bad contract.
It's the 2nd best way to do that.
IMO the best way to get rid of a worthless or overvalued contract is to eat it up with a 1yr BO if you have the cap or trade it to a team that has plenty of cap space to eat it end of yr just before contracts rollover so nothing's left on the books.
ABOs stick through the life of the deal which sucks even if it's a 40% BO.
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Personally I like the ABO period for 2wks. We also allow for postdating which is something Snugerud did his 1st time around FNHL with NYI cleaning up the last owner's mess. LOL
After that the other key ways to get rid of contracts are through trades and buyouts.
Having a 2 week period is fine but it doesn't make the most sense for that period to start before GM's have committed for the next season.
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Having a 2 week period is fine but it doesn't make the most sense for that period to start before GM's have committed for the next season.
Well Yes and No. Depends which end of the season you want to call the head or the azzzzz for recruiting new owners. By the start of the season it's too late to bring in guys to shape a team. We prefer to recruit in the Spring so they can get in to do contract cleanup, ABO, handle contract rollover, jump into FA and draft! :thumbsup:
So we should know who's in or out by the end of the Finals like we do this season. That's what PR wants and I think it's working out so far.
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But this is a discussion thread so let's talk it up gents! :toast:
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Look at :TOR-NHL: currently as a mock example. That franchise has $12m tied up in goalies that likely won't play next year....any GM that takes over would benefit from access to the ABO program if it were extended through the Summer.
What do you think?
In fact Thunderblade is a wise man for waiting out Nabby. WHY?
Because Nabokov qualifies for the 40% retirement buyout which can be used on a 1yr BO. Whereas the ABO would've forced him to complete the BO over the remaining life of the contract.
Evgeni Nabokov, $4.7m (2014-2017) costs $5.6m (2014-2015) - 1yr retirement b/o :thumbsup:
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You're missing the point PPG. It is not about how people do their buy-outs. But at what point they are committed to staying on as GM.
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You're missing the point PPG. It is not about how people do their buy-outs. But at what point they are committed to staying on as GM.
I will put it differently. It seems backwards to determine whether we need replacement GM's AFTER the ABO period. Right?
Anyway, just drop it. It would be a small improvement but it's no big deal. Especially if new GM's can make use of ABO's retroactively. If that is the case you have essentially addressed the issue I raise.
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I will put it differently. It seems backwards to determine whether we need replacement GM's AFTER the ABO period. Right?
Anyway, just drop it. It would be a small improvement but it's no big deal. Especially if new GM's can make use of ABO's retroactively. If that is the case you have essentially addressed the issue I raise.
Actually, we don't make exceptions on dates, rules in most cases.
So no retroactive ABO unless someone PMed us with a question and that ABO hinged on an answer to the PM and the deadline expired. Then we would make an exception.
Generally, adults buy-in to Franchise NHL and go with the flow like everyone else.
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You're missing the point PPG. It is not about how people do their buy-outs. But at what point they are committed to staying on as GM.
The pt isn't lost in my understanding of the Question. IMO it doesn't matter. Plenty of other ways to deal with bad contracts or deadbeat players a team wants to move.
As for when we confirm commitment of owners. Is there a perfect time?
Not in my experience aside from when it's time to pay up. LOL PPG takes a bow.
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What do you think of extending the Amnesty Buy-out period to enable new GM's to get rid of players that should have been dropped by GM's that quit instead? A GM that decides not to return at the end of the finals isn't likely to make any moves for the benefit of the franchise.
Look at :TOR-NHL: currently as a mock example. That franchise has $12m tied up in goalies that likely won't play next year....any GM that takes over would benefit from access to the ABO program if it were extended through the Summer.
What do you think?
2wks is sufficient.
Perhaps there's a better time to slot it in.
I scheduled the ABO for immediately after the Finals because its a tool for interested ppl who are still around after the playoffs wrap up. Snug got around that by postdating which inallowed because it is an inclusive move.
Traditionally most ppl disappeared after May thru Aug and by Aug contracts rollover in FNHL.
Soni slotin the ABO at the end of the season. Everyone else including new owners can use all the other cap management tools.
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Perhaps there's a better time to slot it in.
That's all I was getting at. Appreciate that contracts are fairly easy to get out of.....just don't want a franchise to be disadvantaged (even slightly) in the event that a GM decides to fold. Anyhow, I'm satisfied that I am understood.
I'm not trying to make things difficult or more complicated than they need to be. It's just in my nature to try and improve the things that I am a part of. Enough said. :toth:
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That's all I was getting at. Appreciate that contracts are fairly easy to get out of.....just don't want a franchise to be disadvantaged (even slightly) in the event that a GM decides to fold. Anyhow, I'm satisfied that I am understood.
I'm not trying to make things difficult or more complicated than they need to be. It's just in my nature to try and improve the things that I am a part of. Enough said. :toth:
Hmmm, i had that mindset before taking over as commish. Pergaps Slack might want to step in at some pt. Something to consider Slackjack! :thumbsup:
Opinions with rationale to back them are always welcome.
The setup in FNHL is truly not one where we try to mirror the NHL... you know like the leagues that try for that authentic experience only to let you slot in 2 Allstar goalies nightly. haha
I try to keep rules relatively straightfwd for new owners to learn and allow for enough tools for them to rebuold quickly and for PPG and myself to administer so transactions dont sit on the board too long. :toast:
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Amnesty bo shouldnt be a core BO option so no need to extend the ABO period. Beyond that where ever you slot that 2wks doesnt matter but end of season seems to work because you know what you need to do with your team before FA and rollover.