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Re: Franchise NHL - Questions Section
« Reply #330 on: April 06, 2015, 04:57:48 PM »
I can't remember if transactions get processed during the 3 month summer break?

No. Transactions could sit on the board until August while the league is taking a break.
 Of course if we are bored and drop by we might process a few while we're here.
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Re: Franchise NHL - Questions Section
« Reply #331 on: April 28, 2015, 03:48:27 PM »
Is there a grace period from when a new owner/ gm comes into league until they are able to make moves? I think maybe this should be looked at, with the recent moves made without understanding the rules of the league. Maybe a week or two?  :toast:
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Re: Franchise NHL - Questions Section
« Reply #332 on: April 28, 2015, 04:16:02 PM »
Is there a grace period from when a new owner/ gm comes into league until they are able to make moves? I think maybe this should be looked at, with the recent moves made without understanding the rules of the league. Maybe a week or two?  :toast:
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Defacto, I think we have a higher threshold for newbie trades as it is (and that this is a good thing).
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Re: Franchise NHL - Questions Section
« Reply #333 on: April 28, 2015, 06:49:41 PM »
Is there a grace period from when a new owner/ gm comes into league until they are able to make moves? I think maybe this should be looked at, with the recent moves made without understanding the rules of the league. Maybe a week or two?  :toast:

Slack summed it up.

There are 2 commish and a trade committee to review transaction to help smooth out the kinks for everyone.

Of course nothing is fail safe.

Just look at this beauty of a deal from December 2010 Ducks-Wild.
Destroyed the Ducks team for 3 yrs.
http://www.profsl.com/smf/index.php?topic=14169.0

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Koivu
Havlat
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Garon

To Wild:
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Perry
Fowler
Hiller

Wild confirm this trade and await approval of Ducks. Thanks for the easy negotiations  :toast:

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Re: Franchise NHL - Questions Section
« Reply #334 on: April 28, 2015, 08:49:05 PM »
Looks legit  :win:
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Re: Franchise NHL - Questions Section
« Reply #335 on: April 28, 2015, 08:58:42 PM »
Its bush league to agree to a trade and then try and pull out of it. I can't blame papps if he leaves.
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Re: Franchise NHL - Questions Section
« Reply #336 on: April 28, 2015, 09:32:34 PM »
Its bush league to agree to a trade and then try and pull out of it. I can't blame papps if he leaves.

He didn't "try and pull out of it". That is not what happened. Let's not blame a guy for making a bad trade AND not honoring it! Keep it in perspective; the league was critical of the deal so he (AZ) said he was willing to let it go as it appeared to be dead.

Even if that was the case (which it clearly is not) you cannot legitimately blame the entire league for the actions of a new GM. WTF?
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Re: Franchise NHL - Questions Section
« Reply #337 on: April 28, 2015, 10:23:44 PM »
He didn't "try and pull out of it". That is not what happened. Let's not blame a guy for making a bad trade AND not honoring it! Keep it in perspective; the league was critical of the deal so he (AZ) said he was willing to let it go as it appeared to be dead.

Even if that was the case (which it clearly is not) you cannot legitimately blame the entire league for the actions of a new GM. WTF?
That is why I suggested a grace period. If you don't know the rules of the league, then what are you doing trading in the first place?
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Re: Franchise NHL - Questions Section
« Reply #338 on: April 29, 2015, 01:34:26 AM »
Its bush league to agree to a trade and then try and pull out of it. I can't blame papps if he leaves.

Bush league is that BS offer papps tried to push through.

We all know our hockey at least most of use here do. That trade stunk of bull crap!

That deal was VETOED for obvious reasons!
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Re: Franchise NHL - Questions Section
« Reply #339 on: April 29, 2015, 12:01:21 PM »
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That deal was VETOED for obvious reasons!

Yes it was! Part of the problem is the misunderstanding brought about by this reasoning from Pigs.

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(3) Arizona has asked to opt out of the deal...

Since when is someone asking out of a deal a good reason to kill it? Anyways, Blackhawk only said he would go with the flow so he'd stop getting trashed. In the first trade thread he made a pretty strong argument supporting the trade and said that he had a plan. No one ever acknowledged this so he caved under pressure the next time around. 

The deal was vetoed because it was bad for Arizona. Not because it was unfair. Not because Blackhawk wanted out. Not because he didn't have the right to make his own choices. It was vetoed because it was deemed detrimental to a suffering franchise with a new GM. 

Moving on.
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