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Re: DISCUSSION: DECREASE 2021-22 CAP CEILING?
« Reply #10 on: August 09, 2020, 10:13:37 AM »
Though true what happened with the Vegas expansion in FNHL, I am with the camp that feels it is not the time to rollback the cap ceiling.

Mordecai makes a great point, and being the owner of more than one of the league’s under performers, I appreciate the thinking behind the suggestion at this time.

I will agree with BB’s recommendation to rollback by 5% the following season to help keep things in check.
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Re: DISCUSSION: DECREASE 2021-22 CAP CEILING?
« Reply #11 on: August 10, 2020, 12:22:19 AM »
I would like to see this rollback of 5% from the NHL's cap ceiling for 2021-22. It's a good suggestion to ensure some additional cap tension gets introduced because as we saw last off season, there were tons of teams with too much cap and not enough players entering Free Agency.


 
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Re: DISCUSSION: DECREASE 2021-22 CAP CEILING?
« Reply #12 on: August 10, 2020, 11:42:38 AM »
Ultimately, a 5% rollback of any salary cap ceiling is a drop in the hat.

For example, 5% off $81.5 million is 4$ million.

Many FNHL teams had well over $10-$15 million heading into FA last yr and the FA talent pool ended up being blaaaaaah to say the least.
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Re: DISCUSSION: DECREASE 2021-22 CAP CEILING?
« Reply #13 on: August 10, 2020, 05:54:12 PM »
Ultimately, a 5% rollback of any salary cap ceiling is a drop in the hat.

For example, 5% off $81.5 million is 4$ million.

Many FNHL teams had well over $10-$15 million heading into FA last yr and the FA talent pool ended up being blaaaaaah to say the least.


:iatp: That's the point. It's not a significant rollback by any means. This would help level the playing field for all franchises.

Again, my team has more to lose than gain from this BUT if the league is better off, we are all better off in the long run. :toast::win:
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Re: DISCUSSION: DECREASE 2021-22 CAP CEILING?
« Reply #14 on: August 11, 2020, 12:14:49 PM »
Ultimately, a 5% rollback of any salary cap ceiling is a drop in the hat.

For example, 5% off $81.5 million is 4$ million.

Many FNHL teams had well over $10-$15 million heading into FA last yr and the FA talent pool ended up being blaaaaaah to say the least.
:iatp: That's the point. It's not a significant rollback by any means. This would help level the playing field for all franchises.

Again, my team has more to lose than gain from this BUT if the league is better off, we are all better off in the long run. :toast::win:
Mind you, given the pandemic, the NHL might be forced to reduce the cap ceiling anyways in 2021-22 so it could still happen naturally whether FNHL owners vote to introduce it artificially or not.

:iatp::iatp: I have to say, at first I wasn't in favour of a rollback but after hearing the pros and cons, I am on board for a small rollback to keep all teams in the league in check financially.

I do think the NHL will naturally rollback the cap given how COVID-19 has cut deep into league revenues due to zero attendance and very limited merchandise sales since the pandemic started and there doesn't appear to be a end to this at least not before the midpoint of the 2020-21 season at best.
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Re: DISCUSSION: DECREASE 2021-22 CAP CEILING?
« Reply #15 on: August 11, 2020, 12:33:48 PM »
Colorado would prefer to wait and see. Following NHL cap just seems simpler and we can keep an eye on this going forward.
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Re: DISCUSSION: DECREASE 2021-22 CAP CEILING?
« Reply #16 on: August 12, 2020, 12:34:32 PM »
How about park this decision by saying for the 2021-22 FNHL cap:

A) Roll back by 5% IF NHL cap ceiling is => $81.5M (equal or greater than)
B) Maintain and mirror NHL cap ceiling if < $81.5M (less than)

Thoughts?
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Re: DISCUSSION: DECREASE 2021-22 CAP CEILING?
« Reply #17 on: August 12, 2020, 12:59:43 PM »
How about park this decision by saying for the 2021-22 FNHL cap:

A) Roll back by 5% IF NHL cap ceiling is => $81.5M (equal or greater than)
B) Maintain and mirror NHL cap ceiling if < $81.5M (less than)

Thoughts?
:winner::winner::winner:


:iatp: :toast: That would be a smart move. :iatp:
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Re: DISCUSSION: DECREASE 2021-22 CAP CEILING?
« Reply #18 on: August 12, 2020, 02:50:23 PM »
How about park this decision by saying for the 2021-22 FNHL cap:

A) Roll back by 5% IF NHL cap ceiling is => $81.5M (equal or greater than)
B) Maintain and mirror NHL cap ceiling if < $81.5M (less than)

Thoughts?
:iatp: I agree with Wild Thing. Fantasy cap leagues need this type of safe guard against artificially large amounts of salary cap room given there is no real-world-like free market to help keep contracts and team cap levels in check through negotiations. This type of conditional rule will keep cap in check.
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Re: DISCUSSION: DECREASE 2021-22 CAP CEILING?
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