Author Topic: Future Rules on League Openings - RC Only  (Read 3061 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline rcankosy

  • All-Star
  • ***
  • Join Date: Oct 2009
  • Posts: 2459
  • Bonus inPoints: 0
    • :Blank:
    • :Blank:
    • :Blank:
    • :Blank:
    • View Profile
Future Rules on League Openings - RC Only
« on: May 06, 2013, 08:08:31 AM »
I have already decided that all future league openings will be decided by the RC.  THat said, I see 3 critical questions that must be answered once and for all:

1.  Should internal transfers be allowed to fill team openings going forward? 

2.  If yes, how should existing league members candidacies' be weighed against one another?

3.  Regardless of the answer to # 1, how should candidates in general be judged against one another.

We will start by having the RC rule on question # 1 in a separate post.
« Last Edit: May 06, 2013, 06:46:58 PM by rcankosy »
funny
0
like
0
dislike
0
No reactions
No reactions
No reactions

Offline Colby

  • MLFB Founder
  • Legend
  • *****
  • Join Date: Jan 2009
  • Posts: 28820
  • Bonus inPoints: 27
    • :PIT-NFL:
    • :Blank:
    • :PIT-NHL:
    • :PennState:
    • :UnitedStates:
    • View Profile
Re: Future Rules on League Openings - RC Only
« Reply #1 on: May 06, 2013, 11:17:13 AM »
I have already decided that all future league openings will be decided by the RC.  THat said, I see 3 critical questions that must be answered once and for all:

1.  Should internal transfers be allowed going forward?

2.  If yes, how should existing league members candidacies' be weighed against one another?

3.  Regardless of the answer to # 1, how should candidates in general be judged against one another.

We will start by having the RC rule on question # 1 in a separate post.

1) Yes, internal transfers should be allowed once every five years and a maximum of three times.  This also means that a person can only manage up to three different teams.

2) H2H-categories with three categories: Tenure with franchise, franchise performance, franchise performance vs. expected performance (if team had 29th highest cap and they finish 27th then that is a +2 in expectations).

3) I answered that with #2, but for external hires, we should use time on the waiting list, # of posts per month at ProFSL, and a rating of past performances in MLB and/or FGM as the three roto-categories.  Only one is subjective and that is the last one.
funny
0
like
0
dislike
0
No reactions
No reactions
No reactions
Learn about :Commish: inPoints and the Invitationals.

Offline kungfuwig

  • All-Star
  • ***
  • Join Date: Sep 2009
  • Posts: 1962
  • Bonus inPoints: 3
    • :NY:
    • :CLG:
    • :ArizonaState:
    • View Profile
Future Rules on League Openings - RC Only
« Reply #2 on: May 06, 2013, 12:35:28 PM »
1) Yes, internal transfers should be allowed once every five years and a maximum of three times.  This also means that a person can only manage up to three different teams.

2) H2H-categories with three categories: Tenure with franchise, franchise performance, franchise performance vs. expected performance (if team had 29th highest cap and they finish 27th then that is a +2 in expectations).

3) I answered that with #2, but for external hires, we should use time on the waiting list, # of posts per month at ProFSL, and a rating of past performances in MLB and/or FGM as the three roto-categories.  Only one is subjective and that is the last one.

I think this sounds perfect and I answered how I feel about internal transfers in the other thread. Similar w slightly shorter timelines
funny
0
like
0
dislike
0
No reactions
No reactions
No reactions
"This is your life and its ending one minute at a time"

Offline rcankosy

  • All-Star
  • ***
  • Join Date: Oct 2009
  • Posts: 2459
  • Bonus inPoints: 0
    • :Blank:
    • :Blank:
    • :Blank:
    • :Blank:
    • View Profile
Re: Future Rules on League Openings - RC Only
« Reply #3 on: May 06, 2013, 02:52:20 PM »
I would like to add a few more points in defense of eliminating internal transfers altogether.

1.  We would eliminate the inevitable hurt feelings by owners on the short end of transfer requests.  I firmly believe that no matter how hard we try to be objective about it, we will lose league members in the future who do not agree with the RC's decisions.  It has happened before, and it will happen again.

2.  It is simply not necessary, and we have proof of it.  The Oakland As in our own league have been the model franchise for small market teams.  The second example is the Padres in Moneyball when their GM was JMACisBACK. 

It would be one thing if we had to sell tickets or convince our owners to increase our cap space or approve trades, but neither is necessary.  Our caps go up as we win, although I will admit it is a slow process that should perhaps be reviewed in the near future. 
Moreover, it may take a while for prospects to pan out, but you can usually flip a decent prospect for good value right off the bat if you were so inclined. 
funny
0
like
0
dislike
0
No reactions
No reactions
No reactions

Offline Colby

  • MLFB Founder
  • Legend
  • *****
  • Join Date: Jan 2009
  • Posts: 28820
  • Bonus inPoints: 27
    • :PIT-NFL:
    • :Blank:
    • :PIT-NHL:
    • :PennState:
    • :UnitedStates:
    • View Profile
Re: Future Rules on League Openings - RC Only
« Reply #4 on: May 06, 2013, 03:42:23 PM »
People like to run their favorite teams, so I get the part about internal transfers to a degree.  I think if we put strict limits on them and have a valuation determination that I proposed then it will be a straight forward process.
funny
0
like
0
dislike
0
No reactions
No reactions
No reactions
Learn about :Commish: inPoints and the Invitationals.

Brewers GM

  • Guest
Future Rules on League Openings - RC Only
« Reply #5 on: May 06, 2013, 04:18:24 PM »
I personally have never been in favor of internal transfers, but see why they can occasionally be good for the league (ex: Jake turning the Nats around when no one wanted them).  I do not think it should be a common occurrence or something an owners aspires towards like a promotion.  Your job is to make your team a contender, not prepare your resume to then win with someone else's team.

Do we need special rules for internal transfers versus hiring external managers?  Why not just let all managers apply and either the Commish or RC can vote on who to hire.  We can be transparent with the criteria candidates will be evaluated by and why we vote the way we do.  Sure this leaves some subjectivity to it and people may get upset, but the premise of the RC is to have league elected people represent the best interests of the league (ie: if the league as a whole is unhappy with the RC decisions, they should elect new RC members).
funny
0
like
0
dislike
0
No reactions
No reactions
No reactions

Offline rcankosy

  • All-Star
  • ***
  • Join Date: Oct 2009
  • Posts: 2459
  • Bonus inPoints: 0
    • :Blank:
    • :Blank:
    • :Blank:
    • :Blank:
    • View Profile
Re: Future Rules on League Openings - RC Only
« Reply #6 on: May 06, 2013, 04:26:17 PM »
I personally have never been in favor of internal transfers, but see why they can occasionally be good for the league (ex: Jake turning the Nats around when no one wanted them).  I do not think it should be a common occurrence or something an owners aspires towards like a promotion.  Your job is to make your team a contender, not prepare your resume to then win with someone else's team.

Do we need special rules for internal transfers versus hiring external managers?  Why not just let all managers apply and either the Commish or RC can vote on who to hire.  We can be transparent with the criteria candidates will be evaluated by and why we vote the way we do.  Sure this leaves some subjectivity to it and people may get upset, but the premise of the RC is to have league elected people represent the best interests of the league (ie: if the league as a whole is unhappy with the RC decisions, they should elect new RC members).

We tried combining internal and external transfers with the Dodgers and it left us with this mess.  Therefore, I have proposed that we vote on internal transfers first, because it guides all of the other decisions.  You are free to correct me if I am wrong, but I took your comments as a no vote to question # 1.

The vote stands at 2-2 for allowing internal transfers.  I am not trying to rush anyone, but I would like this vote wrapped up by tomorrow evening.
funny
0
like
0
dislike
0
No reactions
No reactions
No reactions

Eric

  • Guest
Re: Future Rules on League Openings - RC Only
« Reply #7 on: May 06, 2013, 04:29:32 PM »
who are you missing if you don't mind me asking
funny
0
like
0
dislike
0
No reactions
No reactions
No reactions

Offline rcankosy

  • All-Star
  • ***
  • Join Date: Oct 2009
  • Posts: 2459
  • Bonus inPoints: 0
    • :Blank:
    • :Blank:
    • :Blank:
    • :Blank:
    • View Profile
Re: Future Rules on League Openings - RC Only
« Reply #8 on: May 06, 2013, 04:32:49 PM »
By the way, I consider taking over a team that NO ONE wants (i.e. Corey leaving the Yanks for the Mets) to be an entirely different circumstance and should not be confused with the matter at hand when voting for question # 1. 
funny
0
like
0
dislike
0
No reactions
No reactions
No reactions

Offline rcankosy

  • All-Star
  • ***
  • Join Date: Oct 2009
  • Posts: 2459
  • Bonus inPoints: 0
    • :Blank:
    • :Blank:
    • :Blank:
    • :Blank:
    • View Profile
Re: Future Rules on League Openings - RC Only
« Reply #9 on: May 06, 2013, 04:35:14 PM »
who are you missing if you don't mind me asking

The RC is comprised of the following.

Colby (Colby)
Ben (Brewers GM)
Dan (Dan Wood)
Roy (rcankosy)
Mike (VolsRaysBucs)
Bob (Shooter 47)
Freddy (kungfuwig)

We are waiting on Dan, Mike, and Bob to cast their votes.
funny
0
like
0
dislike
0
No reactions
No reactions
No reactions

 

Forum Search


Quick Profile

 
 
Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.
Did you miss your activation email?

* Chat Room

Refresh History
  • dbreer23: Mucho respecto!
    April 17, 2024, 03:31:00 PM
  • STLBlues91: ill be around the rest of the night for any deals
    April 17, 2024, 06:58:06 PM
  • Daddy: Michael Porter Jr.'s brother Jontay.... Banned for life by NBA for gambling.
    April 17, 2024, 07:58:24 PM
  • Daddy: He bet on his own performance (under) and his team to lose games.
    April 17, 2024, 07:58:57 PM
  • dbreer23: good riddance
    April 17, 2024, 10:17:11 PM
  • dbreer23: and I'm not even a NBA fan
    April 17, 2024, 10:17:20 PM
  • Daddy: Gambling is as bad an addiction as there is.  This guy comes from money, has a brother thats uber rich, and he himself was in the NBA.
    April 17, 2024, 11:00:36 PM
  • PsychoticPondGoons: FNHL FINALS looking very tough for one team :ANA: 155.05 v 236.25 :NYR: with only today's games left to plan. :judge: [link]
    April 18, 2024, 10:44:33 AM
  • STLBlues91: ill be around the rest of the day for any deals
    April 18, 2024, 06:30:53 PM
  • Mt_Crushmore: Here early for talks.
    April 19, 2024, 09:14:02 AM
  • Rob: SlackJack and his Arizona Coyotes are DNHL Champs for the 2nd year in a row.  Congrats!!  [link]
    April 19, 2024, 09:37:43 AM
  • PsychoticPondGoons: Congrats to the 2024 FNHL NYR on winning it all!
    April 19, 2024, 02:23:56 PM
  • PsychoticPondGoons: :taco: FNHL FINALS OFFICIAL SCORE :ANA: ANH 160.15 v 247.3 :NYR: NYR
    April 19, 2024, 02:25:02 PM
  • PsychoticPondGoons: Well done, FNHL's CaliHkyGuy [link] :winner:
    April 19, 2024, 02:37:42 PM
  • STLBlues91: ill be around the rest of the day for any trade talsk'
    April 19, 2024, 04:11:46 PM
  • STLBlues91: talks**
    April 19, 2024, 04:11:51 PM
  • Daddy: Ever since the Academy Awards a couple years back, ive been working on my slap technique.
    April 19, 2024, 10:21:13 PM
  • Daddy: Being a Philadelphia native, Will Smith has set the bar very high for us and its not like you can just slap random folk for practice.
    April 19, 2024, 10:22:18 PM
  • Braves155: Yo, who around rn?
    April 20, 2024, 10:35:56 AM
  • Rhino7: They do have slap fighting you could try
    April 20, 2024, 12:51:07 PM
  • Daddy: Damn they got slap fighting???
    April 20, 2024, 01:14:10 PM
  • Mt_Crushmore: Oh yeah they do. It's brutal.
    April 20, 2024, 04:02:39 PM
  • Mt_Crushmore: Usually on PPV. If you get into that try English phone booth fighting!!!
    April 20, 2024, 04:03:47 PM
  • Jwalkerjr88: Yup, UFC owned if im not mistaken. They handing out CTE for breakfast over there
    April 20, 2024, 07:18:25 PM
  • Daddy: Will Smith would be Drago in that sport.
    April 20, 2024, 07:58:15 PM
  • Daddy: I would be Clubber Lang
    April 20, 2024, 08:00:04 PM
  • Daddy: @Jwalkerjr88 i bet you are itching to trade or build something right now. Too bad you hate baseball. MLB LIVE be jumping when NFL LIVE rests (not that it rests much but still) :) .
    April 21, 2024, 02:00:29 AM
  • Jon: daddy, your the only game in town now for CFB on the board.  I removed Fansville as i decided i am not giving any more money to Fantrax for premium settings.  My leagues are free
    April 21, 2024, 11:32:55 AM
  • Braves155: MLB LIVE :NYY: has OF for trade looking for INF/pitching
    April 21, 2024, 01:51:13 PM
  • Daddy: Its always better for the site to have at least 2 leagues for each sport. However @Jon i understand the decision.
    April 21, 2024, 01:53:02 PM
  • Daddy: Fantrax fees do get expensive. Its like $110-$120 per league per year and when its all out of your own pocket and you do most of the work, its hard to find value in that.
    April 21, 2024, 01:55:06 PM
  • Daddy: Its like i been gone for a month all these PMs. Lordy! I hope its some trade talk in there.
    April 22, 2024, 11:04:36 AM
  • Daddy: Nope, nobody wants my junk players. It was all admin.
    April 22, 2024, 11:48:14 AM
  • BayAreaBallers: hahaha
    April 22, 2024, 04:10:00 PM
  • Mt_Crushmore: 0 messages here.
    April 22, 2024, 08:27:34 PM
  • indiansnation: Mlb live indians looking to move p woo suk go
    April 23, 2024, 05:51:59 PM
  • Daddy: What is it the Indians are offering exactly, sounds like a private matter.
    April 23, 2024, 07:28:24 PM
  • Daddy: @BAB see MLB LIVE current bidding. (Pagan) :toth:
    Yesterday at 12:29:18 AM
  • Daddy: NFL DRAFT TONIGHT ROUND ONE IN PRIME TIME.
    Yesterday at 12:07:54 PM
  • BayAreaBallers: your a day early Daddy
    Yesterday at 12:51:58 PM
  • BayAreaBallers: ist tomorrow
    Yesterday at 12:52:07 PM
  • Daddy: :doh: FML
    Yesterday at 01:05:48 PM
  • indiansnation: Good evening all
    Yesterday at 04:45:28 PM
  • Jwalkerjr88: Trey hendrickson and tee higgins both request trades day before the draft. Tomorrow will bring fireworks
    Yesterday at 07:50:56 PM
  • Mt_Crushmore: Thurs kickoff starts at 1pm nfl network
    Yesterday at 08:32:25 PM
  • BayAreaBallers: Yepp
    Yesterday at 08:40:50 PM
  • Mt_Crushmore: This mock draft on espn is interesting tonight.
    Yesterday at 09:37:27 PM
  • Alpha5: Why does Hendrickson want out?
    Yesterday at 11:20:52 PM
  • BayAreaBallers: Money alpha
    Yesterday at 11:37:29 PM
  • BayAreaBallers: He and like Higgins wants to get paid and have a better secure contract
    Yesterday at 11:37:49 PM