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RC - Please Vote on the Future Owner of the Dodgers
« Reply #30 on: May 05, 2013, 11:46:51 AM »
Im not in favor of a team getting extra cap space to please their prospective owner, many teams would want the same treatment.
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« Reply #31 on: May 05, 2013, 11:53:47 AM »
MT - here is the issue with the protocol, and it is something I have argued against since day one. It was a rule put in place that wasn't voted on by the RC. We all just took it as gospel.

As the rule states Chris should get the Dodgers on time spent here alone. Jeff recently moved to the Red Sox, so his time at that team gives him less tenure than Chris has with the Dodgers.

Here is my biggest problem - outside of the subjective - Chris was removed from the team in 2011, by me, for in activity. Technically that would give Jeff the lead for the Red Sox. So how hard are we going to follow the rules?

And I will state again, and you can quote me on it - this system for choosing new GMs sucks. Plain and simple. It has nothing to do with the talent of the GM and what they have done in the past. I could have hung around here for 3 years scratching my ass too, waiting for the Dodgers, Yanks, or the Brewers to open up, and then BONANZA!
And I refuse to censor myself on this issue because I believe in it so much. I'm sorry Chris, but your team has done nothing since you took over. That is not a personal attack, that's just facts. You can call me out, say I'm a d-ck, whatever, that's your opinion, I am a d-ck, ask my friends. But personally I don't think you deserve a promotion. And I changed my vote in your favor. 
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Re: RC - Please Vote on the Future Owner of the Dodgers
« Reply #32 on: May 05, 2013, 12:00:13 PM »
MT - here is the issue with the protocol, and it is something I have argued against since day one. It was a rule put in place that wasn't voted on by the RC. We all just took it as gospel.

As the rule states Chris should get the Dodgers on time spent here alone. Jeff recently moved to the Red Sox, so his time at that team gives him less tenure than Chris has with the Dodgers.

Here is my biggest problem - outside of the subjective - Chris was removed from the team in 2011, by me, for in activity. Technically that would give Jeff the lead for the Red Sox. So how hard are we going to follow the rules?

And I will state again, and you can quote me on it - this system for choosing new GMs sucks. Plain and simple. It has nothing to do with the talent of the GM and what they have done in the past. I could have hung around here for 3 years scratching my ass too, waiting for the Dodgers, Yanks, or the Brewers to open up, and then BONANZA!
And I refuse to censor myself on this issue because I believe in it so much. I'm sorry Chris, but your team has done nothing since you took over. That is not a personal attack, that's just facts. You can call me out, say I'm a d-ck, whatever, that's your opinion, I am a d-ck, ask my friends. But personally I don't think you deserve a promotion. And I changed my vote in your favor.

I respect all of this statement and agree.  At the very least the standard for manager selection should be improved.
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RC - Please Vote on the Future Owner of the Dodgers
« Reply #33 on: May 05, 2013, 12:13:34 PM »
We should update the rules to limit a GM transfer to once every 5 years and a lifetime max of 3 different teams.  We should also have a formula for internal transfers that takes relative performance in account.

In reality, we have two applicants for this job being joeshmoe and nerwffej.  By my executive ruling, joeshmoe would have the job due to longer tenure with his franchise.
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Re: RC - Please Vote on the Future Owner of the Dodgers
« Reply #34 on: May 05, 2013, 12:47:47 PM »
MT - here is the issue with the protocol, and it is something I have argued against since day one. It was a rule put in place that wasn't voted on by the RC. We all just took it as gospel.

As the rule states Chris should get the Dodgers on time spent here alone. Jeff recently moved to the Red Sox, so his time at that team gives him less tenure than Chris has with the Dodgers.

Here is my biggest problem - outside of the subjective - Chris was removed from the team in 2011, by me, for in activity. Technically that would give Jeff the lead for the Red Sox. So how hard are we going to follow the rules?

And I will state again, and you can quote me on it - this system for choosing new GMs sucks. Plain and simple. It has nothing to do with the talent of the GM and what they have done in the past. I could have hung around here for 3 years scratching my ass too, waiting for the Dodgers, Yanks, or the Brewers to open up, and then BONANZA!
And I refuse to censor myself on this issue because I believe in it so much. I'm sorry Chris, but your team has done nothing since you took over. That is not a personal attack, that's just facts. You can call me out, say I'm a d-ck, whatever, that's your opinion, I am a d-ck, ask my friends. But personally I don't think you deserve a promotion. And I changed my vote in your favor.

I don't need to call anyone a name or anything.  I am not doing that.  What I am saying is, what was the measure of improvement that I needed to show before getting a promotion?  Was it make 5 trades good or bad?  I have ascertained offers, and everytime I get counters that are a joke.  I mean honestly...why would I trade the pieces I do have to set back 4-5 years.  I never had superstars to trade away and recoup great talent, except AGON and the return would have worked had Gamel gotten healthy two years ago.  All signs were good. 

What I am saying is, show me where you think I haven't done anything...or not enough.  Show me....point to it.  Not just a stupid w/l column stat.  It's exactly why Colby said he wont be viable til 2015.  Because to do it right takes time.  Look at my drafts and tell me I screwed up the rebuild.  It's not the case it's the expectations...and those were never posted...except for in the instance of a tie.

As far as my time of absence...I admit it.  I was gone in 2011 due to a horrible breakup that coincided with the RFA schedule?  I messed up...but life was in the tubes for me.  I lost a few guys that I would have signed cheap, maybe, but that opportunity would have prevented me from other opportunities.  I am simply pointing out...what is the reason someone believes the Padres are no better than they were?
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« Reply #35 on: May 05, 2013, 12:50:39 PM »
Chris, can you just leave it? You have said the same thing over and over again. I think everybody gets your point. Just let it play out as it should. Its fantasy, no need to fire on all 8 cylinders over a team.
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Re: RC - Please Vote on the Future Owner of the Dodgers
« Reply #36 on: May 05, 2013, 03:39:36 PM »
Chris, can you just leave it? You have said the same thing over and over again. I think everybody gets your point. Just let it play out as it should. Its fantasy, no need to fire on all 8 cylinders over a team.

It's not fire or anything else.  Others have said I did nothing with the Padres (Dan Wood, Corey) but they never provided a single reason why they felt that way.  Asking for a reason is perfectly acceptable. 

Furthermore, Corey is in a thread continuing to say these things and you chimed in "I agree 110%" so if you truly wish to calm the storm stop supporting someone from ranting baseless claims. 

It's quite insane to me that I got lambasted for asking the league to follow the rules set forth.  I slang no mud and made legitimate posts to base an opinion on.  I used evidence.  I'm asking that those who have taken a perch and are slinging arrows at me at least offer why they have the opinion they do.  That's not much.

And it's hard to have fun when Corey is using this to strike his personal vendetta against me.  I brought up a rule and this is the disrespect it cost me.  Horrendous.  I admit Corey and I don't get along, but I'm also not here saying he's a terrible manager and a bad person.  I am getting that from others though and if they're going to say it, they should be able to point to why.

Corey, I asked for the three instances you claim I was absent...you said you'd show me...do it!
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Re: RC - Please Vote on the Future Owner of the Dodgers
« Reply #37 on: May 05, 2013, 03:41:54 PM »
If you don't like how things are ran around here then just quit instead of keep rambling about the same things in every post.
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Re: RC - Please Vote on the Future Owner of the Dodgers
« Reply #38 on: May 05, 2013, 03:55:55 PM »
If you don't like how things are ran around here then just quit instead of keep rambling about the same things in every post.

No, I don't have to quit because people were trying to end around the rules.  I also would have stopped posting about the same things had they been answered at all.  It's a discussion thread for the purposes of proposing questions and getting answers.

Lastly, where's this advice for Corey who is using this opportunity to insult my management without the base of the claim stated.  He has said much of the same things on many posts and in three threads now.  Instead of suggesting he quit you are suggesting he not quit.  It's a two edged sword you're using to villainize my concern about this issue that in fact affects me.

Where has the respect for a member of this league gone?  It's fantasy, it shouldn't be hard to have respectful disagreements. 
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Re: RC - Please Vote on the Future Owner of the Dodgers
« Reply #39 on: May 05, 2013, 05:44:30 PM »
First off, its not a personal vendetta. Its purely simple for the 5th time, since you cant comprehend. The Padres have not improved. Your cap continues to fall because you fail to put a team out there to even win 35 games. 35 games would keep your cap constant but you failed to do that.

You claim no talent? Where is agonz or better yet where is the return? Where is Chase Headley or the return...

The team has not got better. I dont care if it was Dan Wood who was running the Padres, I would say he should not the Dodgers because the team has done nothing.

Im sorry you take everything personal by thinking its a vendetta. That must happen to you a lot.

Record of inactivity for Joeshmoe


11/1/12 - 12/5/12
12/9/12 - 1/12/13
9/12/11 - 11/30/11

There is your inactivity.

You will be allowed the last word as I am done responding. Each time I respond I give the same answer and you are unable to process the information being given.

If you would like me to post the dates of your penalties and ban dates let me know.
I can also post the posts that got you banned and ruined a league as well.
« Last Edit: May 05, 2013, 06:14:47 PM by Corey »
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