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Corey

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Re: RC - Please Vote on the Future Owner of the Dodgers
« Reply #10 on: May 04, 2013, 11:46:29 AM »
Lmao. You mean 7000 points. :rofl:

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« Reply #11 on: May 04, 2013, 11:53:38 AM »
Like I said earlier. The padres have not improved. Rick made the white sox verybgood and Jeff made the red sox improve drastically.  The padres have stayed the same. Hard to get a promotion when you havent succeeded at your current role.

Rick and jeff have not had any behavioral issues or warnings given for behavior on ProFSL.

 2 main reasons would be performance and behavior

Rick was a .500-.600 win ball club when he was there for one year.  Jeff:

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2011: 3rd in AL East (87-75)
Boston continued to regress heading into 2011 failing to win 90 games and once again missing the playoffs for the second straight year.  The franchise went into a different direction headed into the trade deadline by trading their best player, CI Miguel Cabrera and signing young players such as Daniel Murphy, Dexter Fowler, Felipe Paulino as well as acquiring MI Dustin Ackley.  The team heads into 2012 with plenty of cap room and looks to retake the top of the AL East.

Red sox = 133m this season
White Sox = 102m this season
Padres = 59.5M this season

Give me 40m and I'll do wonders with it, haha!  But in reality, I've given plenty of examples of why the Padres are in a great spot because of my leadership.  And my first draft was three years ago those guys are just beginning to be expected to start showing results.  And what do you know, my team looks better than ever this season and in the first 3 weeks I almost beat many "better" teams.  I can't beat LAD but who rarely can?  The Padres are definitely headed for better days.  You have said nothing to disregard this opinion.  Other than record, and the Mets are only a few games ahead.  Bad leadership or simply that it takes time? 

Colby says his next competitive season is 2015...bad manager?  Has he ever won anything as the Pirates?  Does that mean he should be considered unqualified, no.  And on and on
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joeshmoe

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Re: RC - Please Vote on the Future Owner of the Dodgers
« Reply #12 on: May 04, 2013, 11:58:48 AM »
Lmao. You mean 7000 points. :rofl:

Excuse me, I meant win percentage.  Typing too much and not editing before posting.

Grow up Corey, the LMAO and :rofl: are immature and a bad way to handle a serious issue.  This might not impact you but it does to me.  Your problems with me on a personal level are blatant throughout your posts.  Leave the snide stuff to PMs if you want.  Baiting me on a forum is really low.
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Corey

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« Reply #13 on: May 04, 2013, 12:05:40 PM »
Jeff took the Sox over in 2011 correct, but you left out 2012 where he went 106-54. A 19 game improvement and got in the playoffs. This was done by multiple excellent trades. When Jeff took the Sox over he had 0.4m in cap room and 21 players on his roster. Excellent job Jeff.

There is no baiting. You said you were 100 points behind me. That is incorrect its merely 7000 instead. How am I baiting you? You asked why is Rick or Jeff more qualified, I am simply answering your questions and correcting you when you are wrong.

Im sorry you think its personal, its not. I have stated already if it was personal, I would be all in for Mr.Tradeking. But thats not the case. Not one thing I have said is snide. I will say LOL and I will put the laughing logo when 100 = 7000 
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joeshmoe

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Re: RC - Please Vote on the Future Owner of the Dodgers
« Reply #14 on: May 04, 2013, 12:13:57 PM »
San Diego Padres History :SD:

2012: 5th in NL West (60-102)
Despite the GM's comments in the newspaper that San Diego is turning itself around, the team actually played worse in 2012.  The Padres finished with the worst record in the National League.  The bright spot was their pitching led by Mat Latos and Dillon Gee.  The team's offensive woes are a major issue that needs to be addressed in the off-season.

2011: 4th in NL West (65-97)
The Padres continued to be an NL West bottom feeder, but luckily beat out the Giants in H2H competition for the 4th place tiebreaker.  San Diego had very few assets to utilize.  One of Chris' accomplishments in 2011 was getting rid of the horrible Heath Bell contract.  Other than that, the team actually performed above expectations and picked up some cheap wins in the second half.

2010: 5th in NL West (54-108)
Greg Lake cleaned the house a bit as he took over but only made a few moves in his short tenure as Padres GM.  Chris Calcia was hired as his replacement and had a tough task at hand with a barren MLB roster and a team at the bottom of the standings, a couple big, painful contracts, and little wiggle room under a $60m cap. 

Chris put the Padres through a rebuilding stage by trading away star slugger Adrian Gonalzez to the Cardinals in return for many of the top prospects they received in the Pujols deal.  The team was by far the worst in the first half and picked up the pace slightly in the 2nd half to finish with the 2nd worst record in the majors in 2010.

2009: 5th in NL West (73-89)
The Padres performed poorly in 2009 due to a lack of talent and injuries to the once solid starting rotation.

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Christopher Calcia (joeshmoe) [5/25/10 - ]
Greg Lake (glake) [12/31/09 - 5/10/10]
Sam Valenti (tfence) [7/1/09 - 12/29/09]

1)  My record is pretty good all things considered.  The increase in my first season from first half->second half. 

2)  I had a regression in year three but that was to be expected as I was busy signing solid players that were young and project for the right time frame.

3)  The issues of last year were addressed and my offense is good, not great, but pretty good.  I don't have the depth to rotate and get the extra 100 abs most do.  My guys are still young.  But I have proven adequate to get guys who contribute to the team rather than take away.  And I added to the bullpen to bolster pitching stats.  Starters aren't cheap and buying one now makes no sense if my compete phase is when Baez, Soler, Romero, McCullers, Meyer, Vitek, Tapia, Abreau, and Perez are ready.  It's smart.

4)  It is clearly documented that the Padres I took over were the worst team in the league by far and away.  They weren't ever going to be a one season fix.  That is unrealistic in building a sustainable future.

My success isn't hidden and isn't some illusion.  It is there for all to see.
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joeshmoe

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« Reply #15 on: May 04, 2013, 12:25:29 PM »
1)  Jeff took the Sox over in 2011 correct, but you left out 2012 where he went 106-54. A 19 game improvement and got in the playoffs. This was done by multiple excellent trades. When Jeff took the Sox over he had 0.4m in cap room and 21 players on his roster. Excellent job Jeff.

2)  There is no baiting. You said you were 100 points behind me. That is incorrect its merely 7000 instead. How am I baiting you? You asked why is Rick or Jeff more qualified, I am simply answering your questions and correcting you when you are wrong.

3)  Im sorry you think its personal, its not. I have stated already if it was personal, I would be all in for Mr.Tradeking. But thats not the case. Not one thing I have said is snide. I will say LOL and I will put the laughing logo when 100 = 7000

1)  So clearly not every problem can be solved overnight.  Exactly my point.  Jeff took time to turn around the Red Sox.  They were in much better position than the Padres of 2010...Mike Cameron, Heath Bell (12m), Jake Peavy (16m per, 40m+ owed), a 1st rounder of Donavan Tate, who was a horrible pick (should have been a football player).  The team had one quality piece, AGON, and I wasn't going to be able to afford him so I got the one training lesson I needed at FGM, and Gamel hasn't gotten onto the field yet.  If he had or does, the deal would/will have worked for me.  All with 60m in cap at most.

2)  I acknowledge I made a mistake, but that being corrected, for a mere 90m larger salary you have less than .100 points more in the win column.  Does that mean you've not improved?  Your salary is decreasing for the next two seasons.

3)  And yes, the LMAO and :rofl: are largely uncalled for.  They're unprofessional and rude.  This is a serious issue and doesn't deserve mockery.  Further you haven't given one statistic about why the Padres are worse.  All you've said is what "you think" and that isn't enough, show me why.
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Re: RC - Please Vote on the Future Owner of the Dodgers
« Reply #16 on: May 04, 2013, 12:49:42 PM »
In my opinion this shouldn't be a popularity contest or about righting a wrong. This also isn't a negotiation for a team to get more cap space because they didn't get a position they wanted. The best person for the job should get it period.

So far each candidate has thrown their name in the pot by making a short one or two line post saying they are interested but I feel this is not enough information to make a decision. Neither is all of back and forth arguing between different members.

There has been alot of arguing about who is better and who deserves the job, or who got wronged in the past. Personally I would like each GM to post a longer response on why they should get the job. What Strengths and Weaknesses they see in the Current Dodgers Roster, what they plan on doing to improve the roster, Long Term strategy for sustainability, Etc.

In my opinion each GM should make one post (an interview of sorts) to express why they are the best person for this job and then the RC can vote. This post should not be focused on how they got wronged in the past but why they are the best candidate to lead the Dodgers into the future.
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Re: RC - Please Vote on the Future Owner of the Dodgers
« Reply #17 on: May 04, 2013, 04:56:03 PM »
In my opinion this shouldn't be a popularity contest or about righting a wrong. This also isn't a negotiation for a team to get more cap space because they didn't get a position they wanted. The best person for the job should get it period.

So far each candidate has thrown their name in the pot by making a short one or two line post saying they are interested but I feel this is not enough information to make a decision. Neither is all of back and forth arguing between different members.

There has been alot of arguing about who is better and who deserves the job, or who got wronged in the past. Personally I would like each GM to post a longer response on why they should get the job. What Strengths and Weaknesses they see in the Current Dodgers Roster, what they plan on doing to improve the roster, Long Term strategy for sustainability, Etc.

In my opinion each GM should make one post (an interview of sorts) to express why they are the best person for this job and then the RC can vote. This post should not be focused on how they got wronged in the past but why they are the best candidate to lead the Dodgers into the future.

I feel like trying to sit here and put together what I am going to do with the Dodgers is silly.  Firstly, I have no idea what people will and will not trade.  Secondly, they're a winning ball club, not much need be done for this year at all.  Third, explaining my plan gives other teams every chance to stop that plan. 

What I have done is shown why at FGM I am the best choice.  I have done well with the Padres as stated above in previous posts.  And, I have had the guts to stick it out even when the league didn't go my way.  The Dodgers shouldn't be a revolving door.  They're too much of a valued franchise for that.  For me, the Dodgers just need good drafting and a steady hand to manipulate the cap.  The talent is already there; Cabrera, AGON, Hanram, Heyward, etc.
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RC - Please Vote on the Future Owner of the Dodgers
« Reply #18 on: May 04, 2013, 08:51:28 PM »
I vote for Paul S and Brewers GM to co-manage the Dodgers.  Anything to get them out of the NL Central will only help Dan Wood and I.
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« Reply #19 on: May 04, 2013, 08:56:39 PM »
That and getting Hamilton a larger bat. Like a comedically oversized bat so he can make some contact
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