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Earliest closing bids:Yesterday at 01:44:37 AMby haseloff will close SaturdayToday at 12:18:24 AMby haseloff will close SundayI am currently high bid on Soto, Pacheco, Choi and Pena. I would also like to be in on Abrea, Votto, Morneau and Callaspo. I will not be bidding on them (thus extending the 48hr window) until Saturday and Sunday.
A question on how the 2-bid system would work:I want in on Player A so I place a bid within the first 24 hours. If I really want him, why would I place my second and final bid unless I login at the 47hr 59min mark. I'd risk getting outbid. If only myself and 3 others made the inital 24hour bid, I'd just wait during the second 24hour window until the other 3 placed bids and bid 500k more (or 5m, etc).
This would heavily favor the moderators who get to post "FA open for SP" then immediately post 4 SP opening bids. If the opening bidder gets 'final snipe ability', that prevents people who are willing to pay more from getting the player (thus the player doesn't get the best deal).
This new FA system is extremely advantageous to those that get on the site more than others. The current system is not broken so why try to fix it? I can understand tweaking the current one for many reasons. However, if the league votes to change it to the one being proposed here, there will be a lot more griping and complaining not to mention some people might leave the league over it if they lose a player because they could not get on in time to bid on the player again. 48 hours is MUCH BETTER for those of us that have busy lives and only giving 24 hours never works in dynasty leagues. I have seen it time and time again in my experience. This sounds like 3-4 people want this kind of system and it's almost being forced upon the league regardless whether it's just being discussed. Also, it's a lot more to remember with how deep this league is already. I think we should just close this discussion up and look at avenues to tweak the current system. Some variation of this system has worked in other leagues and there's no reason why it cannot work here either.
How is the current system dumb and mindless?
If someone bids 5 years $75m and you want to wait until the last second to bid 5 years $77m... so what? If you're determined to outbid someone no matter the cost then what does it matter if it's on a time limit?
So determination and ability to get online at a certain time wins out over highest bidder? If this was a redraft league, sure. If I miss out on a player for the next 5 years because someone sniped me at the 47th hour, that doesn't seem to be the perfect system we're looking for.
Actually your bid for Soto hits 48 hours at 11:44pm CST tonight so you can bid on another player tonight if you want. In addition, your Choi bid was outbid at 5:16pm CST today which cleared you to bid on another player.
You're ability to post your best bid in a 72 hour period "wins out". I'm all ears for your perfect system in place of the one we're contemplating.
So when I was outbid for Choi, I should've used that to bid on another guy I wanted. Once another leading bid clears (let's say, tomorrow) I use that on Choi again creating another 48 hour window pushing the problem further out?If we could bid on as many as we wanted, we wouldn't have so many 40hour rebids starting the process over. I understand what you are saying regarding a rich team like starting so many SP player bidding wars that managers won't know exactly how much money they have in outstanding leading bids but that is the only problem (thus why I have a spreadsheet).If the problem is there are so many players going on that you wouldn't be able to track them, I'll volunteer to assist in STICKYing the 48hour closers. Considering there is a timestamp on the forums though, this is a nonissue. As long as people ONLY POST BIDS and no commentary as you put out earlier, we can count 2 days between post times to determine winners (if tragically no one can STICKY the winner immediately).
I'm all for the best bid idea until we put in in place and see how people are incentivized into using their second bid. Yes, go big or go home works until the snipers wait until the last minute. Maybe i thought 27M for 5Yrs was perfect for Votto. If I get outbid by 5M, I may be willing to go more. A finite number of bids gives extreme preference to those who can time the last bid into the 72hr window.
The current system seams fine. Let people battle it out, close down the position at the end of the week until after all positions have been visited, bring in a few more FA Moderators to assist in identifying winning bids, managers get the player they want at the price they want and have the opportunity to overpay for a career season (Vernon Wells).