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Title: Padres/Rays
Post by: Yeagg on August 04, 2019, 08:58:05 PM
Padres trade:

C Fransisco Mejia P-2024 $0.6m
SP Matt Strahm P-2022 $0.6m
SP Logan Allen P-n/a $0.5m

Ray's trade:

SP Blake Snell 2023 $10m
MI Wander Franco P-n/a $0.5m
SP Matthew Liberatore P-n/a $0.5m
MI Nick Solak P-n/a $0.5m

I hate losing a catcher and cost controlled pitching but Blake Snell and a few prospects make it easier to do. Thanks Brian
Title: Re: Padres/Rays
Post by: indiansnation on August 04, 2019, 10:51:38 PM
Tampa agree i move some guys for guys i kike more
Title: Re: Padres/Rays
Post by: Daddy on August 04, 2019, 11:34:19 PM
 :iatp:
Open voting
Title: Re: Padres/Rays
Post by: Yeagg on August 05, 2019, 12:06:27 AM
Does this mean that I can vote?
Title: Re: Padres/Rays
Post by: Brent on August 05, 2019, 01:05:51 AM
I usually allow trades to go through and don't veto b/c every GM should be given a chance to run his team, however this league is just starting and is only 2/3s full where every team is starting with their initial rosters.  Allowing something like this to go through sets a precedent that will be hard to come back from and could turn away potential GMs as they look through the transactions deciding on whether or not they want to join the league. 

This trade is heavily lopsided and I know it is prospect lopsided, but prospects are one of the assets teams have no matter how GMs value them.  If only current MLB players are factored in, Snell is easily equal value to Mejia and Strahm.  Now factoring in the best prospect in baseball and I believe might be the only current 70 FV value spec with 4 categories at 60+ FV.  Nobody is a sure thing, but he is close to there is and that has to be factored in.  That tips the deal significantly in favor of the Padres.  To add Liberatore who by himself is a higher ranked spec than Logan Allen, now you have a landslide. 

It looks like this trade will probably be pushed through like every other trade in every other league, but something needed to be said about the outrageous lopsidedness of this trade.

For the integrity of the league, I  have to :veto:
Title: Re: Padres/Rays
Post by: Daddy on August 05, 2019, 03:01:40 AM
I usually allow trades to go through and don't veto b/c every GM should be given a chance to run his team, however this league is just starting and is only 2/3s full where every team is starting with their initial rosters.  Allowing something like this to go through sets a precedent that will be hard to come back from and could turn away potential GMs as they look through the transactions deciding on whether or not they want to join the league. 

This trade is heavily lopsided and I know it is prospect lopsided, but prospects are one of the assets teams have no matter how GMs value them.  If only current MLB players are factored in, Snell is easily equal value to Mejia and Strahm.  Now factoring in the best prospect in baseball and I believe might be the only current 70 FV value spec with 4 categories at 60+ FV.  Nobody is a sure thing, but he is close to there is and that has to be factored in.  That tips the deal significantly in favor of the Padres.  To add Liberatore who by himself is a higher ranked spec than Logan Allen, now you have a landslide. 

It looks like this trade will probably be pushed through like every other trade in every other league, but something needed to be said about the outrageous lopsidedness of this trade.

For the integrity of the league, I  have to :veto:
:iatp:
Title: Re: Padres/Rays
Post by: RyanJames5 on August 05, 2019, 10:05:45 AM
I have to agree with Brent.  While I do like the upside of Mejia and Allen, they just don't carry remotely enough value to warrant the kind of return going to :SD:. 

 :veto:
Title: Re: Padres/Rays
Post by: WestCoastExpress on August 05, 2019, 06:20:03 PM
I usually allow trades to go through and don't veto b/c every GM should be given a chance to run his team, however this league is just starting and is only 2/3s full where every team is starting with their initial rosters.  Allowing something like this to go through sets a precedent that will be hard to come back from and could turn away potential GMs as they look through the transactions deciding on whether or not they want to join the league. 

This trade is heavily lopsided and I know it is prospect lopsided, but prospects are one of the assets teams have no matter how GMs value them.  If only current MLB players are factored in, Snell is easily equal value to Mejia and Strahm.  Now factoring in the best prospect in baseball and I believe might be the only current 70 FV value spec with 4 categories at 60+ FV.  Nobody is a sure thing, but he is close to there is and that has to be factored in.  That tips the deal significantly in favor of the Padres.  To add Liberatore who by himself is a higher ranked spec than Logan Allen, now you have a landslide. 

It looks like this trade will probably be pushed through like every other trade in every other league, but something needed to be said about the outrageous lopsidedness of this trade.

For the integrity of the league, I  have to :veto:

Brent pretty well laid out the main reasons.

There isn’t really close to the value going back Tampa’s way to make this trade passable for me. Allen is nice but not one of the top guys that SDP owns.

I get the need to diversify for Tampa but doing so while losing some top end guys and not getting any back doesn’t make sense.

 :veto:

Also throwing out players on the trade block might get more/better offers rather than taking the first ones that come your way.
I know I sure am with the few assets the Sox own. Only way to get a decent return.